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Updated on Jun 28, 2023

We performed a comparison between BMC TrueSight Operations Management and ITRS Geneos based on real PeerSpot user reviews in five categories. After reading all of the collected data, you can find our conclusion below.

  • Ease of Deployment: BMC has clear instructions and a straightforward process, but the environment's complexity can impact the setup time. On the other hand, ITRS Geneos requires onsite support for weeks, and building the monitoring catalog takes a significant amount of time. The number of people necessary for deployment depends on the organization's size.
  • Features: BMC TrueSight Operations Management is strong in proactive and granular monitoring, and event management. Meanwhile, ITRS Geneos offers a highly customizable and flexible dashboard, along with real-time monitoring capabilities.
  • Pricing: BMC TrueSight Operations Management has a high price point but is transparent and based on the number of devices, while ITRS Geneos has a market-related pricing model with some extra costs for add-ons. However, ITRS Geneos may be too expensive for non-banking and non-finance industries.
  • Service and Support: BMC TrueSight Operations Management's customer service is a mixed bag, with varying opinions on its quality and knowledge. In contrast, ITRS Geneos is praised for its exceptional technical support, although there is room for improvement in communication and input templates.
  • ROI: While BMC TrueSight Operations Management's ROI is unclear, ITRS Geneos provides several advantages. These include proactive alert management, a decrease in high-severity incidents, and the avoidance of in-house development.

Comparison Results: BMC TrueSight Operations Management is chosen over ITRS Geneos based on its robust event management tool, precise monitoring and metrics data, and Helix Innovation Studio for app development. ITRS Geneos is customizable with real-time monitoring, but needs improvement in dashboard creation, deployment automation, and cloud monitoring. BMC TrueSight Operations Management is affordable with a clear licensing model for companies of all sizes, while ITRS Geneos may be too costly for non-finance industries.

To learn more, read our detailed BMC TrueSight Operations Management vs. ITRS Geneos Report (Updated: March 2024).
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Pros
"It has provided us with a single location to host all events to be viewed/monitored by our NOC. This has greatly helped them to streamline their processes.""BMC TrueSight Operations Management is easily scalable.""The most valuable features of the solution are alert management, alert generation, and event management.""Its event management capabilities are very open and flexible. I haven't seen a use case scenario with a customer that we couldn't actually solve the problem for, so it's really good. There are some interesting things that happen in an enterprise network (things that people don't normally expect), and the event management product is very flexible. You can solve problems as far as your imagination can go with it.""Intelligent solution with a proactive monitoring feature and consolidated dashboard that's stable and easy to scale.""The tool is flexible enough to be customized based on customer requirements.""The fact that they have a very integrated relationship with Sentry Software, the Knowledge Module, is valuable... The richest feature for us is the number of Knowledge Modules that we can load into the product to add breadth of service to the customer. It enables us to move up the operational stack from hardware, to operating system, to application, and to cloud... That enables us to provide one pane of glass over all those layers - hardware, OS, app, and cloud.""Using the TrueSight platform we can monitor server performance and notify the customers using the integrated ticketing for events. We can let them know if there are any issues with a server, or application, or database."

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"The solution is used across the entire investment banking division, covering environments such as electronic trading, algo-trading, fixed income, FX, etc. It monitors that environment and enables a bank to significantly reduce down time. Although hard to measure, since implementation, we have probably seen some increased stability because of it and we have definitely seen teams a lot more aware of their environment. Consequently, we can be more proactive in challenging and improving previously undetected weaknesses.""The biggest benefit of Geneos is the fact that we can clearly see, if we have an alert, where that alert has come from. We can see the data around that alert and anything that might be relevant is also shown. We can very easily right-click and see why we've received that alert. That's the best part about it, that you've got all the data there with the alerting.""The ability to completely tailor and customize what it's monitoring is one of its strongest points. A lot of other monitoring tools are good at certain things, but one of my colleagues described it as the “Swiss Army Knife” of monitoring tools. It can do anything you want.""ITRS uses SNMP to communicate with our devices as well as SNMP net probes installed on our servers.""I would say that it is an easy-to-use monitoring tool. Amongst the available monitoring tools, it is a really good option.""The Netprobe is so lightweight compared to the agents that most monitoring tools use. It's really superior to the competition. The agent that is used by almost every competitive tool takes a lot more system resources. It's slower and it requires a greater effort and more compromises in terms of security to install on the monitored servers. With Geneos, because it lives outside the code, it is far easier and far less taxing on the monitored systems.""The ability to logically normalize data gathered from multiple types of sources via pre-built plugins is extremely powerful. This functionality, coupled with the ability to import custom data via the Toolkit plugin allows Geneos to be leveraged to monitor every system in the enterprise.""The flexibility of the product is most valuable. It is highly customizable. If you put your mind to it and think of something you could do, there's a good possibility you can get it integrated within the console, if it's not readily available. The simplicity or ease of customization has been valuable."

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Cons
"The pricing could be better.""BMC TrueSight Operations Management could improve the reporting.""I definitely would like to see more improvement in the self-diagnostics. I need to know when anything is not working or collecting, long before our customer finds it.""The knowledge modules could be more lightweight in size. At present, the installation packages can be quite large.""The sizing (which is difficult), the maintenance of it and the upgrade paths. This is a difficult area which is not easy to cover, as every client has a different approach of implementing the product.""The solution's support service could be better.""The dashboard and performance graphs should include a way to automatically schedule and export reports.""Specifically around application performance monitoring, BMC is definitely not the market leader. The Dynatraces, the New Relics and the like are more of the market leaders in that space. I would like to see them grow that space a little bit more aggressively. It has not really been their bread and butter."

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"For the last year or two, I've been asking the vendor about the mobile app. This is something that probably everyone asks when they see the tool and they see how powerful it is. If there is any mobile app for this or if there is any way this tool can be more easily accessible other than having a big client installed, it would be great. I know you can build dashboards, et cetera, but there is no quick and easy way. I should be able to download an app, log in, and see my status. That will put this product above everything else out there. I believe it's on their roadmap.""Backward compatibility with deprecated features and in system documentation on what configuration areas are needed to be updated.""They have the Webslinger solution where you can see when something is alerting. It's a little bit cumbersome.""I would also like to see suggested guidelines to accomplish a monitoring task. The issue is that ITRS is so flexible that there is more than one way to complete a task, each with benefits and disadvantages.""ITRS Geneos is not on the cloud at a time when everyone is moving to the cloud.""For the solution to stay relevant in the cloud-based monitoring environment Geneos needs more plug-ins with more features. Instead of offering clients workarounds, the solution should have a cloud-based out-of-the-box version.""A lightweight version which could host more than 100 gateways, as we can see slowness while loading all our gateways.""Data visualization – real time and historical – is a weakness."

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Pricing and Cost Advice
  • "Use conservative figures. In terms of hardware, monitored servers and also effort. The product is not cheap. But as with other products, you get what you pay for."
  • "The solutions are not the cheapest but are robust and stable. License model is rather complex and BMC do often change the model."
  • "Pricing is very high."
  • "We pay license fees of between $150 and $200 per asset. There is an enterprise software license fee, and then you pay a percentage for your maintenance, and then Premier Support. For example, if you buy a two-year license for the product, then the maintenance fee is added to that for two years at X percent a year. Then there's a small fee on top of that for Premier Support..."
  • "Pricing is all volume-driven. I think we were paying between $80 and $85 per license. That's per unit, for a perpetual license. You pay it one time and then, every year, you pay 20 percent of that for annual maintenance and support. But now that we've grown, we've purchased tens of thousands of licenses and the cost per license has gone down to something like less than $30..."
  • "It is a large, complex product. So, there is a commitment of manpower to deploy it, as it is not a cheap product."
  • "There is a big upfront cost when you buy the license, then there is annual maintenance. We look at, if I bought a license and paid for maintenance for five years, then average it out, what would be my monthly cost. We have had some of the competing tools come in around four dollars. This is coming in as a premium, which is why I don't have it deployed as I would like it. Therefore, we're in negotiations right now. If I can get it down to the four dollar range, I will triple my deployment in a year and a half."
  • "The only possible additional cost that I can mention, that you might not be aware of, is that it uses Oracle partitioning, if you use Oracle. There are Oracle partitioning fees that go with that."
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  • "You will get the best price if you get a single global deal."
  • "The product is priced quite high. There are pricing options for customers based on the size of the environment and plug-ins used by the monitoring system."
  • "Pricing and licensing is based on the requirements."
  • "The licensing cost may seem expensive upfront. However, the service is outstanding, the tool does things that no other tools can do, and the customizability more than makes up for the cost of licensing."
  • "Pricing is the touchy subject, even here. Upper management always wants us to find a cheaper solution. But we have so much integrated with ITRS... It's expensive, but it does its job very well. And you set it and go."
  • "It is expensive. They have to look at the model around when we move to cloud and how that's going to work. The licensing cost does pay off because of the improvements in support to our business."
  • "When I first came in, their pricing was very high. ITRS had a high expectation of what their price should be based on perceived value. I think they have been realizing, more recently, that there are other competitors, so their pricing is a lot better. Licensing for on-premise is okay, however I feel there is quite some work to be done for cloud and containers. We're still working with them to try and work out what that pricing should look like."
  • "Given our spend and the amount of service we have in it, the pricing is quite reasonable."
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    Top Answer:The tool is flexible enough to be customized based on customer requirements.
    Top Answer:The product must provide more AI capabilities. AI is already available but must play a deeper role in the solution.
    Top Answer:I would say that it is an easy-to-use monitoring tool. Amongst the available monitoring tools, it is a really good option.
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    Also Known As
    ProactiveNet, TrueSight Operations Management
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    Overview

    BMC TrueSight Operations Management is a solution that delivers end-to-end performance monitoring and event management. It does so by using machine learning, analytics, and AIOps to identify, analyze, and resolve application and infrastructure problems quickly. BMC TrueSight Operations Management also offers automated remediation and ticketing.

    BMC TrueSight Operations Management Features

    BMC TrueSight Operations Management has many valuable key features. Some of the most useful ones include:

    • TrueSight Smart Reporting
    • Broad monitoring capabilities
    • Hundreds of integrations
    • Event grouping
    • Proactive alerts
    • Incident tickets
    • Cause analysis
    • Automated log analysis

    BMC TrueSight Operations Management Benefits

    Some of the benefits of using BMC TrueSight Operations Management include:

    • Detects performance issues: BMC TrueSight Operations Management helps you detect and address performance abnormalities before they impact your organization.
    • Beneficial for IT teams: Since BMC TrueSight Operations Management automatically learns the behavior of your infrastructure, it is able to alert you when specific behaviors require attention, helping IT departments focus on other pressing priorities.
    • Cost efficient: BMC TrueSight Operations Management will save your company money by eliminating the need to manage thousands of traditional, static thresholds for event generation.
    • Reduces manual tasks: BMC TrueSight Operations Management minimizes the need to manually define, configure, and maintain correlation rules and policies.
    • Fewer false alarms: With BMC TrueSight Operations Management, the number of false alarms and associated incidents decreases drastically.

    Reviews from Real Users

    Below are some reviews and helpful feedback written by BMC TrueSight Operations Management users.

    Mudassir A., Sr. Technical Consultant at a tech services company, says, "The event management part of TrueSight Operations Management, in my experience, is probably the best in the market. You have endless flexibility. You can build your own rules, you have the MRL language, and you can implement any kind of logic on the alerts. It may be correlation, abstraction, or executing something as a result of the alerts. You have almost the whole range of options available for event management using the available customization."

    A General Manager - Sales at a tech services company explains, “There are many features that are most valuable in BMC TrueSight Operations Management. First, its proactive monitoring feature is highly developed. BMC TrueSight Operations Management is an intelligent tool that's able to understand day-to-day operations and consistently gives alerts. The alerts are not automatic for some activities, e.g. some alerts are given monthly, while some are given more frequently. The consolidated dashboard where you can enjoy a single pane of glass to look at the full infrastructure from the servers to the VMs, to the clouds, to the application, to the database, to the network devices, including having a topology, and having a tendency map of the topology of key offerings, is also a valuable feature of this solution.”

    An Information Systems Computer System Controller at an insurance company states, “The business event manager tool that consolidates detailed information from a single instance of equipment is the most valuable thing for me. It provides support for the business tools and the IT services which come from several systems.”


    ITRS Geneos is a real-time monitoring tool designed for managing increasingly complex, hybrid and interconnected IT estates.

    Built with financial services and trading organisations in mind, it collects a wide range of data relating to server performance, infrastructure, trading, connectivity and applications, and analyses it to provide relevant information and alerts in real time.

    Geneos can give full stack visibility across highly dynamic environments and presents all the information through a single pane of glass and its configurable and customisable dashboards provide end-to-end visibility to both technical and business users.

    For more information, please visit https://www.itrsgroup.com/products/geneos

    Sample Customers
    Ensono, Transamerica, Boston Scientific, Park Place Technologies, inContact, TD Ameritrade, PNC Bank
    ITRS Geneos is used by over 170 financial institutions, including JPMorgan, HSBC, RBS, Deutsche Bank and Goldman Sachs. Clients range from investment banks to exchanges and brokers.
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    Buyer's Guide
    BMC TrueSight Operations Management vs. ITRS Geneos
    March 2024
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    BMC TrueSight Operations Management is ranked 16th in Application Performance Monitoring (APM) and Observability with 48 reviews while ITRS Geneos is ranked 11th in Application Performance Monitoring (APM) and Observability with 57 reviews. BMC TrueSight Operations Management is rated 8.2, while ITRS Geneos is rated 8.2. The top reviewer of BMC TrueSight Operations Management writes "The product is reasonably priced, but the solution is a little obsolete because it is deployed on-premise". On the other hand, the top reviewer of ITRS Geneos writes "The flexible dashboard sets it apart from competing tools, but it's costly and lacks scalability". BMC TrueSight Operations Management is most compared with BMC Helix Monitor, Dynatrace, ServiceNow IT Operations Management, Zabbix and New Relic, whereas ITRS Geneos is most compared with Dynatrace, AppDynamics, Grafana, Prometheus and Zabbix. See our BMC TrueSight Operations Management vs. ITRS Geneos report.

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