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Lenovo ThinkSystem DE Series vs. NetApp AFF (All Flash FAS)
May 2022
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"Fewer features is not necessarily a negative as it leads to simpler operation and lower price.""We have been working with the solution for around a year and so far it has shown itself to be stable.""Lenovo ThinkSystem DE Series is simple to use""Lenovo ThinkSystem DE Series is quite an elementary box, no frills. It does not have all the functionality of the DM but it is acceptable, it does its task. It integrates pretty well.""ThinkSystem's storage performs well, and the price per gigabyte is good, especially on SSD solutions. It's also easy to use."

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"We have had issues before on our infrastructure where 20 to 30 percent of the people would come to us pointing the finger at the storage technology or storage back-end. That is now virtually zero.""The initial setup is very simple.""The speed of data retrieval is the most valuable feature. We mostly use it for our SAP database and we are getting good IO from the hard drive.""I like some basic features like Snapshot, FlexClone, and advanced features such as SnapMirror, and SnapVault. They also recently enhanced the market with Cloud Volumes ONTAP. I think that NetApp is a very good product.""NetApp AFF has helped to simplify our clients' infrastructure while still getting very high performance for their business-critical applications. One of our customers uses the vSAN environment in the release, then they use NFS for their VMware VCF environment and TKG environment. In this case, when they move to NetApp for the TKG and the VM infrastructures, they use AFF for block, CIFS, and NFS. It provides a single storage with NFS, block, and CIFS with deduplication, team provisioning, and compression. Everything is in there, which makes it very good to use.""The performance is outstanding when it's all Flash. That's the biggest bang for the buck that we get.""The benefits of being on AFF are the phenomenal speed at which we're able to ingest data and index it, and the IOPS.""In terms of the footprint, it is far more efficient. It has smaller, higher-capacity drives than our older unit. In terms of space, power, and cooling, it has simplified things."

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"ThinkSystem could be better integrated with backup software like Commvault, Veritas, or Symantec.""The features are limited.""It would be useful to have structured solutions replicated to other sites.""In the next release, I would like to see more functionality. But, again, it is an entry-level product.""The solution could be more scalable, although it suits our present needs."

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"From my perspective, everything works well. They've already announced that they have some features in their next release that make the existing investment more usable, by adding software features to your existing legacy hardware investment.""It used to give us the volume where LANs should be placed when we created a LAN in the older version. However, in the newer version of ONTAP, it does not give where to place the LAN in the volume. So, that liberty has been taken away. If that was there again, it would be very good.""There is room for improvement with the user interface. There are a few things that cannot be done in the GUI. We do a lot of things through the CLI, but that's grown out of a lack of ability to do them in the GUI. An example is QTrees. You can manage them within the GUI, but the GUI is missing a few options.""The admin tools and the integration with other products and clouds can be improved. It should also be easier to identify and troubleshoot problems in this solution. It takes a long time, and it should be improved.""It would be better if they just improved the performance of the system.""We have been seeing some challenges around the application layer implementation. We are having some teething problems now with the cooperation between the application layer and backups to things, like SnapCenter. This may be a question of product maturity.""During the initial setup, you need to know what you are doing.""NetApp should offer more training so everyone can learn about the products. Other vendors have a lot of training options. It would be great if NetApp would highlight how to use the features more so that every admin or person can gain more knowledge about this technology."

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Pricing and Cost Advice
  • "The pricing is fair and low compared to other products in this category."
  • "We have a five-year contract for providing support."
  • "All of the features are bundled together, and you can renew the bundle with all of the features included."
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  • "It depends on how you look at things, but they are in a higher price range."
  • "All features are included in the license, whereas with an EMC solution, you have to pay separately for extra terabytes."
  • "The price of NetApp is very expensive, but we don't know how much Pure is, so we can't compare."
  • "We benefited from implementing all-flash by reducing our data center footprint. We took it from 30 racks to just over five. This is one of the biggest savings for us."
  • "The licensing and pricing are fine. As a reseller for the product, we need to make the differentiation in the minds of the customer. They are not just buying some tool that does only one thing, e.g., showing a LAN for a customer. The pricing is fair for what it is."
  • "In addition to simplifying the management across a mix of solutions, AFF simplifies the cost. That was one of the main reasons we purchased AFF."
  • "NetApp AFF is an expensive product, although not compared to other vendors."
  • "The pricing is pretty reasonable for what we get. But if you have to buy any more disk space, it can be quite expensive."
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    Questions from the Community
    Top Answer:ThinkSystem's storage performs well, and the price per gigabyte is good, especially on SSD solutions. It's also easy to use.
    Top Answer:ThinkSystem could be better integrated with backup software like Commvault, Veritas, or Symantec.
    Top Answer:The performance is outstanding when it's all Flash. That's the biggest bang for the buck that we get.
    Top Answer:NetApp AFF is somewhat pricey. If they weren't as pricey, that would be a big deal for us. It's worth it but if you could get a really nice car for less, you'd go for the "less."
    Top Answer:The deployment itself, compared to other platforms, should be a lot easier. We don't find it all that complicated because we have been doing it for such a long time, but it should be a bit easier… more »
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    Also Known As
    ThinkSystem DE Series
    NetApp All Flash FAS, NetApp AFF, NetApp Flash FAS
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    Overview

    The DE All-Flash Series delivers the performance of more than 2,000 15k rpm HDDs, yet requires only 2% of the rack space, power, and cooling. Because it consumes 98% less space and power, DE Series can significantly improve the overall efficiency of your IT operations while continuing to meet your performance requirements.

    NetApp AFF8000 All Flash FAS systems combine all-flash performance with unified data management from flash to disk to cloud.  Leverage the Data Fabric to move data securely across your choice of clouds—enabled by Cloud ONTAP™ and NetApp Private Storage for Cloud. Plus, you get the industry’s most efficient and comprehensive integrated data protection suite, on premises or in the cloud.

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    Acibadem Healthcare Group, AmTrust Financial Services, Citrix Systems, DWD, Mantra Group
    Top Industries
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    Comms Service Provider25%
    Computer Software Company25%
    Government7%
    Manufacturing Company7%
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    Healthcare Company15%
    Financial Services Firm12%
    Energy/Utilities Company9%
    Retailer7%
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    Computer Software Company26%
    Comms Service Provider23%
    Manufacturing Company9%
    Government6%
    Company Size
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    Small Business57%
    Midsize Enterprise43%
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    Small Business26%
    Midsize Enterprise21%
    Large Enterprise53%
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    Small Business12%
    Midsize Enterprise13%
    Large Enterprise75%
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    Small Business19%
    Midsize Enterprise19%
    Large Enterprise63%
    Buyer's Guide
    Lenovo ThinkSystem DE Series vs. NetApp AFF (All Flash FAS)
    May 2022
    Find out what your peers are saying about Lenovo ThinkSystem DE Series vs. NetApp AFF (All Flash FAS) and other solutions. Updated: May 2022.
    610,229 professionals have used our research since 2012.

    Lenovo ThinkSystem DE Series is ranked 17th in All-Flash Storage Arrays with 5 reviews while NetApp AFF (All Flash FAS) is ranked 4th in All-Flash Storage Arrays with 21 reviews. Lenovo ThinkSystem DE Series is rated 8.4, while NetApp AFF (All Flash FAS) is rated 9.0. The top reviewer of Lenovo ThinkSystem DE Series writes "Mostly typical of production storage for virtual machines but with fewer features and a lower price". On the other hand, the top reviewer of NetApp AFF (All Flash FAS) writes "Provides us with quick options when restoring things for customers". Lenovo ThinkSystem DE Series is most compared with Dell Unity XT, Lenovo ThinkSystem DM Series, HPE Nimble Storage, HPE 3PAR StoreServ and IBM FlashSystem, whereas NetApp AFF (All Flash FAS) is most compared with Lenovo ThinkSystem DM Series, Pure Storage FlashArray, Dell Unity XT, Dell PowerStore and IBM FlashSystem. See our Lenovo ThinkSystem DE Series vs. NetApp AFF (All Flash FAS) report.

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