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Tintri VMstore T7000 vs VMware vSAN comparison

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Categories and Ranking

Pure FlashArray X NVMe
Sponsored
Average Rating
9.0
Reviews Sentiment
7.6
Number of Reviews
35
Ranking in other categories
All-Flash Storage (15th), NVMe All-Flash Storage Arrays (6th)
Tintri VMstore T7000
Average Rating
9.4
Reviews Sentiment
7.8
Number of Reviews
63
Ranking in other categories
All-Flash Storage (26th)
VMware vSAN
Average Rating
8.4
Reviews Sentiment
7.2
Number of Reviews
231
Ranking in other categories
HCI (2nd)
 

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All-Flash Storage
HCI
 

Featured Reviews

Eugene Hemphill - PeerSpot reviewer
Helps to save money and resources with the data compression feature
One point I'd like to improve is that the tool should start selling small boxes again. It discontinued some products and is focusing on bigger, more capable boxes, neglecting the SMB market. Even though it's not a big market, it shouldn't have removed them. One way to improve the product is to add an operational assistant that doesn't depend on VMware. It could also establish more alliances with other operational systems.
Magnus Österlund - PeerSpot reviewer
Runs seamlessly, gives excellent visibility, and is like having an extra employee
Tintri VMstore gives excellent visibility at the virtual machine level. By using the performance statistics for a particular virtual machine, we can see straight away how a VM performed at a specific time. We can see whether there is any issue with low latency or high CPU usage. With the Tintri platform, it is very easy to pinpoint any underlying problems and issues. Tintri VMstore enables replication, snapshots, and setting QoS at the virtual machine level. This is very important these days. I have been in this business for a long time. I have been working with VMware for over 25 years in data operations. Over the last six to seven years, there has been a serious threat of ransomware attacks. Back in the day, you would have a backup and the ability to do a restore because someone deleted a file. Nowadays, you also need to have proper protection when the next ransomware attack comes. The ability to have immutable snapshots is very important so that you can be back on track instantly when the next attack occurs. In my case, it has been a very good tool to avoid an attack and mitigate when an attack has already occurred. There is the simplicity of instant rollback. It does not matter how big the machines are. It is very easy to roll back the machine and get it up and running again. It enables us to do recovery at the virtual machine level. With Tintri SyncVM, I can do a per-file VM restore. It does not matter if it is a database, file server, or Exchange server. I have a complete copy of the machine from the snapshots where I can do full recovery or recover individual files if needed. The GUI is excellent when it comes to monitoring performance and capacity on a per-VM basis. I can directly go to the virtual machine, and via the widget in the vCenter GUI, I can see the performance statistics and historical and current performance for the virtual machine. I love the fact that it is so easy to get those numbers. I can also log in to the Tintri Global Center and get the performance data for the last five minutes and up to 30 days for a specific VM. You can use the one you want as a system admin. You can use the vCenter GUI for instant information and recent activities, or you can go into Tintri Global Center for deeper information and historical details. I worked with the older series of VMstore for many years, which unfortunately are coming to the end of life in February or March. I have been helping a customer in Sweden to migrate to the new T7000 platform. I have one customer who has been using their system for nine years, which is a very long time in these circumstances. Normally, you change storage every three to five years, but this customer has been so happy with their 800 series. The performance of these old series that are coming to their end of lifespan in February or March has been top-notch. The customer has been happy with the performance and total cost of ownership. Having a storage platform for nine years is impressive, not many can do it. This customer had a highly used and very big SQL Server running for many years. It had several jobs running for days. It was a hybrid VMStore at the time, so it had its limits. I pointed out to the customer to look at this virtual machine or this SQL Server. After we migrated it to the 7000 series, within a couple of weeks, we could see that the performance had significantly increased. Their long-running jobs got completed much faster because the 7000 series is 100% NVMe drives, so it is much faster than the hybrid. We could see a significant increase in performance. Tintri VMstore could be considered as an extra employee. It takes the load off your employees so that they can focus on other things on a daily basis. The total cost of ownership over time is beneficial when you are using a Tintri solution. Not many understand this. It is very important to point that out to a new user or a new customer. They have to take into consideration all the factors of daily operations. Having Tintri VMstore is like having an extra employee without having to pay them a salary.
Yves Sandfort - PeerSpot reviewer
Gives us a lot of advantages when we need to expand resources
Stability can be improved. Adding all these new features is nice, but we are now at the level where most of the features you need in production are there. The stability is not from a day-to-day operations perspective, but more from a supportability perspective, because currently some of the support scenarios require you to completely evacuate hosts or the complete cluster. That sometimes can be a stretch. This would clearly be an improvement if the support teams were given additional tools to make that easier. Upgradability could be a bit easier sometimes. We are now where vSAN can be updated without ESXi, but there is still enough dependency. So that would be good if that actually would be uncoupled even more. Dashboards are there, and we use vROps as well. So, we have all the beauty of capacity planning and everything over there. That's not really something where we need a lot of other things.

Quotes from Members

We asked business professionals to review the solutions they use. Here are some excerpts of what they said:
 

Pros

"The solution uses newer technology for deduplication and compression."
"FlashArray has some fresh efficiency features. I've never seen a storage solution with a compression rating this high before. It's at least 4-to-1 on Oracle databases. It's the best flash storage for Oracle."
"The solution is scalable."
"Technical support has been helpful and responsive."
"The tool's valuable features are speed, security, data compression, and reliability. Its data compression feature is the best that we have ever seen. It helps us to save money and resources."
"The database workloads are pretty fast because I frequently move data from here to there."
"The most valuable features of this solution are its ease of use and performance."
"The Pure1 component is most valuable at this point in time when comparing it with EMC. Pure1 is where you can have your diagnostics in the cloud, so you can look at things from your mobile phone."
"The ability to snap machines into VMware quickly is valuable."
"A very good support team that is available 24/7. They have real technical staff with strong knowledge."
"It has easy setup, easy administration, and no LUNs!"
"I would rate Tintri VMstore a ten out of ten."
"It is a set and forget environment with a very good tooling to view performance and delivers the IOPS we need for our VDI environment."
"Upgrades are super easy and can be done during business hours without interruptions in production."
"Performance, cost, and ease of storage management."
"It's easy to use and runs itself."
"The most valuable feature is fhe flexibility, the ability to move the machines around without hesitation."
"The scalability is very good and the solution is stable and reliable."
"It completely removes the need for a storage network and for a storage administrator and all of that infrastructure and the costs that are involved with them."
"VMware vSAN is an easy to use and easy to manage storage solution. Deploying and upgrading are easy. Technical support is very good."
"The newer versions of this solution are much more stable and easier to manage."
"It is easier to deploy than the traditional SAN."
"Its ease of use is most valuable. It is easy to configure, and there is a unified interface, which makes things slightly easier."
"We find it easy to deliver this solution."
 

Cons

"The tool's pricing is higher than competitors."
"One point I'd like to improve is that the tool should start selling small boxes again. It discontinued some products and is focusing on bigger, more capable boxes, neglecting the SMB market. Even though it's not a big market, it shouldn't have removed them."
"In the future, I would like to see integration with enterprise backup systems."
"You cannot tag a LUN with a description, and that should be improved. What I like on the Unity side is that when I expand LUNs or do things, there is an information field on the LUN. This is the Information field that you can tag on your LUNs to let yourself know, "Hey, I've added this much space on this date". Pure lacks that ability. So, you don't have a mechanism that's friendly for tracking your data expansions on the LUN and for adding any additional information. That's a downside for me."
"The UI for this solution needs to be improved."
"Every time I think of something that needs to improve, they're one step ahead, which I love. The only area I wish to see improve, I believe is coming, is in the FlashBlade product. Blade implementation fell short on a few of the services."
"It is on the expensive side."
"We would like to see VNC integration or be able to use Pure Storage with VNC."
"Detailed reporting is missing in the current version. We would like to see this feature added in a new release."
"The Tintri Analytics site is excellent for long-term trending, but more data would be great."
"I would like it to have the ability to store data other than virtual machines. At the moment, you can only connect VMs to it, and that’s a bit disappointing."
"Technical support is an area where we had several issues, and it was hard to get some support in a specific case we had. I'm not very satisfied with them."
"I would love more insight into each virtual machine statistic."
"The product could be improved by adding iSCSI support. We have had to rethink how we implement some of our services due to this."
"When there are new releases of, for instance, VMware vSphere, it can sometimes take time on the Tintri side to support that. It can take longer than expected."
"Active/active cluster between two Tintris on Hyper-V cluster."
"We have encountered some challenges related to administrative tasks and licensing issues for the product."
"I would rate the stability a seven out of ten."
"The UI could certainly be better. The inside into what's actually going on with vSAN would be nice to know."
"I would like more integration with the hardware when it comes to disc types and supporting the newer types of storage."
"Pricing is something of a concern."
"They should provide Deduplication and Compression over the hybrid drives."
"I would like to see more comprehensive lifecycle management. The current path and process for upgrading or updating the firmware, as well as the storage controller software to interact with that firmware, is fairly manual and not very well documented. A little more time and effort spent on the documentation of the lifecycle management for vSan would be really great."
"I think it needs to be more cost-effective. I would also say that even though the capacity is good, there is also room for improvement there. Also, they could improve the security of the system."
 

Pricing and Cost Advice

"They can tout the functionality and cutting edge technology that they have, but that's where the price tag comes in. The cost is high, but I think as they grow their business and get more customers that it will probably go down a little bit."
"The support cost per array is about $20,000 a year for 24/7 support."
"Pure FlashArray X NVMe’s pricing is cheaper than other products."
"Pretty much everything that you need is licensed when you buy the product. Licensing to me is different than the maintenance cost, but they can bleed into one another. We buy the product, and we expect three years of support bundled into what we negotiate on our storage arrays. I would start to see maintenance costs going into the fourth year, but we're not there yet."
"With Pure Storage, we would like to continue seeing price reductions with flash storage. I don't think we're any different than anybody else when we continue to look to the industry for price reductions of both NVMe and traditional SSD storage. We would like to see these prices continue to decline and erode, even displacing large spinning disks."
"With VMware, we pay $300,000 annually."
"Our licensing fees are $500,000+ USD."
"We pay approximately $50,000 USD per year in licensing fees."
"The area it needs to improve is the pricing. It could be better."
"Tintri arrays are cheaper then other vendors while still providing an excellent level of performance."
"The price is the price and is reasonable for the class of storage."
"Always could be cheaper."
"With any SAN purchase, the sizing procedure is the most important step."
"It is fairly priced, but it is very important to consider the total cost of ownership over time. The solution has excellent compression and deduplication capabilities, often offering up to three times the raw capacity."
"I've always gotten excellent pricing. I'm very satisfied with the pricing that I receive."
"Ensure the storage system "natively" supports the protocols that you wish to use (i.e., CIFS) without the need for the overhead of internal "conversion VMs" that run the protocols."
"If they could reduce the cost, it would be better. Licensing costs are something that they could take care of. If you are a smaller and strong IT team, then VMware vSAN is a very good product. If you want to expand in the service provider space, then you will have to go for an open-source solution like OpenStack. We are now looking at OpenStack because we sell licensing costs. We are a service provider, so the IT component data is a substantial component in our overall costing. We feel that OpenStack might help us to cut down the licensing cost. Therefore, we are looking at SAS storage instead of vSAN. SAS is open source, but it is not wise to have open source without having the backend support. We are using RedHat SAS, and it is an open-source solution. You can also have a free version, but we are using it with support from RedHat so that we have somebody to back us up in case we have a problem. If you do normal business, then IT expense is 1% or 2% of the total turnover. The higher licensing costs sometimes don't make difference to the big companies who are not service providers and are using it only for their internal use. For them, the IT cost is 1% or 2%, but for an IT service provider, the IT costs will go up to 15% to 16% of the total cost of the operations. This is where the licensing costs become irrelevant. For example, the licensing cost of using VMware, VC, and vSAN is 8% of my monthly revenue. Every month, I pay about $35,000, and, with the revised plan, it will be something like $50,000 or revenue of 600k per month, which means almost 8% of the revenue is going into VMware licensing. In a very competitive world, 8% as a cost element is huge. So, if I can bring it down to 2%, I save 6% in revenue expenditure. In terms of profit, 6% of 30% is something like another 25% increase in my profit. My profit can be almost 25%. It would be 20% to 25% in case I am able to handle the licensing costs and bring them to a very low level. Because these IT costs are substantial for us, that is why we are going with OpenStack. OpenStack has a limitation that it requires more hardware. There will be some increase in the hardware cost, but overall we will save 5% to 6% of our licensing cost by using OpenStack."
"It is slightly expensive. They can be more competitive in terms of pricing."
"The product’s pricing is a bit higher than other solutions."
"The licenses are very expensive. The renewal of licenses has extra costs attached to it."
"If you compare the price of VMware vSAN with other players like Nutanix and Cisco, its price is good, but could still have some improvement."
"I would like to use more advanced models of the solution but the price needs to be reduced. There are some extra costs for this solution including a license."
"With vSAN, we didn't find the market that competitive."
"The licensing cost is high and should be taken into account."
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Top Industries

By visitors reading reviews
Computer Software Company
15%
Financial Services Firm
11%
Manufacturing Company
11%
Government
6%
Computer Software Company
28%
Financial Services Firm
11%
Government
8%
Retailer
6%
Educational Organization
50%
Computer Software Company
8%
Manufacturing Company
6%
Financial Services Firm
5%
 

Company Size

By reviewers
Large Enterprise
Midsize Enterprise
Small Business
 

Questions from the Community

What do you like most about Pure FlashArray X NVMe?
Pure FlashArray X NVMe helps to improve our processing speed. It is user-friendly and easy to use.
What needs improvement with Pure FlashArray X NVMe?
Adding some functions to the product would be beneficial. Storage replication should be essential, and the analytics ...
What do you like most about Tintri VMstore?
The ability to snap machines into VMware quickly is valuable.
What is your experience regarding pricing and costs for Tintri VMstore?
It's not cheaper or more expensive than other vendors. It performs better.
What needs improvement with Tintri VMstore?
The solution was challenging. I had to use a consultant to determine my level and decide what machine to use. Maybe s...
What Is The Biggest Difference Between vSAN And VxRail?
While both run on the vSAN technology from VMware, vSAN needs to be deployed on vSAN ready nodes while VxRail is an e...
Which would you choose - Nutanix Acropolis AOS or VMware vSAN?
We found the reduced power consumption with Nutanix Acropolis AOS a very attractive feature. We also like the interfa...
How does HPE Simplivity compare with VMware vSAN?
HPE SimpliVity is a hyper-converged infrastructure solution that is primarily geared to mid-sized companies. We resea...
 

Also Known As

Pure FlashArray//X NVMe, Pure FlashArray//X, FlashArray//X
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