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Which should I choose: HPE 3PAR StoreServ or Hitachi Virtual Storage Platform F Series?
I'm researching All-Flash Storage Arrays. I'm looking for feedback about HPE 3PAR StoreServ and Hitachi Virtual Storage Platform F Series. Can anyone help?
Solution Architect at a tech services company with 51-200 employees
Real User
2021-01-05T14:22:33Z
Jan 5, 2021
3PAR is SAS-based storage. The industry is already moving away from the 35-year-old SCSI-way, so it's not a good idea to buy any product with it.
I'm not sure about Hitachi, but as far as I know, they also have SAS backend, so, the obvious answer to the question "Which should I choose?" is "none of them".
My recommendation is - choose other vendors (or models) which provide end-to-end NVMe support and make a choice between them.
It depends on what kind of requirement you will use with this All-Flash Storage Array.
Usually, high random IOPS is a must for AFA, however, recently there are more and more requirements that are talking about low latency as the key in the virtualization environment. So if you would like just for high random IOPS and MBPs, considering the SAS SSD AFA will be enough, but if lower latency will be your major impact in the environment, NVMe AFA will be the best.
Product Manager at a tech services company with 1-10 employees
Reseller
Top 20
2021-06-02T14:17:12Z
Jun 2, 2021
I think that you need to meet the needs looking to the best fit to your environment. Looking into Hitachi Vantara portfolio, you will see entry level storage to enterprise. At my point of view, performance, reliability and scalability should be considered.
Another consideration above performance (IOPS and latency), you must to provide the correct profile, such as block size, random or sequencial data, cache hit, replication and snapshots needs. All those informations provides a better solution for your environment.
Dont you forget about the scalability, I think that you must to know how you are growing to fit the best equipment.
System Administrator at a university with 5,001-10,000 employees
Real User
2021-08-14T04:53:26Z
Aug 14, 2021
Hi,
Just assess Pure Storage box as well and also if you are focusing on some specific workload do mention it while discussing with the Pure Storage team like OLTP, DB(SQL/Oracle) or any platform service, etc. At last, your budget is also a major factor while evaluating. As all Flash Arrays do cost more.
Owner at a tech services company with 51-200 employees
Consultant
2021-01-05T14:03:20Z
Jan 5, 2021
Both are great platforms, but if you are considering all flash solutions, I would recommend you to consider Pure Storage. It may be more expensive, but it should pay for itself for its functionalities.
Take a Dorado 3000 V6 form Huawei. Huawei OceanStor Dorado V6 all-flash storage sets new benchmarks in storage performance and reliability. The OceanStor Dorado delivers best-in-class performance of up to 20,000,000 IOPS. With the AI chips they are the first in the industry to deliver storage systems that get more intelligent during the application operations.
1). Make your choice/selection based on your requirements; not based on product.
2). Find product(s) that best fit those requirements.
3). There are lot of features which are selling points for All-Flash Storage manufacturers; you will find those at their website in-front product page if those features are not in #1 of your requirements then search features in them for what you need OR search the product which has the selling points what you are actually looking for(Functional" and "Non-functional" requirements).
To get to an appropriate and correct "Solution" you need to:
Make a list of "Functional" and "Non-functional" requirements and select the product that can get to your business goals effectively.
Enterprise Healthcare Account Executive at Pure Storage
Real User
2021-01-06T01:16:07Z
Jan 6, 2021
If you are not looking at Pure you are missing the boat! 100 % satisfied customers, best economics, management, highest uptime, I could go on and on. See https://www.purestorage.com/re...
To answer this question correctly, I would need to know how you plan to use the storage, the applications, the required IOPS/latencies/throughput, your budget, capacity requirements, data protection requirements, rack space, power, cooling, networking, etc. Choosing between the two platforms in an information vacuum is irrelevant. There are other considerations. What is your experience with either vendor? What is your planned lifecycle for the storage? What are your company's internal politics?
On a personal note, I do not have a vested interest in what you select. Both are fine products. There are better. But if these are the two you have narrowed your selection, then either one is a good product. Each has advantages and disadvantages vs. the other.
HPE Primera has many great features but one of the best is that it is very easy to deploy. From an overall perspective, it is reliable, easy to set up, stable, and offers quality block storage. All of the capabilities of the hardware (including snapshot, replication, and other specific features) come with it, so there is no need for an additional license. In addition, the AI advantages and analytics with InfoSight are definitely powerful. With HPE Primera you are guaranteed great performance with excellent low latency. The AI driven interface is for hybrid cloud, and it also provides insights into any virtualized infrastructure such as proactive recommendations, performance issues, etc. Whatsmore, the dashboards are also great and user-friendly. And the customization capabilities HPE Primera gives you are excellent. From my experience using HPE Primera, there isn’t any real aspect of the solution that needs to be improved other than its high price point.
HPE 3par Storeserv is also easy to use and set up. The solution is robust and makes data performance much faster. The data replication feature of HPE 3par does a good job of replicating data cleanly over to a second site. HPE 3par Storeserv also makes it easy to make changes without it affecting your environment. In addition, it comes with a lot of screens with adjustable settings, which makes management easier. Moreover, it is easy to scale, it is very stable, has a very good interface, is reliable, and also allows you to have tiered storage. However, HPE 3par has limitations when it comes to the number of IOPS the system can do and has limited flexibility in regards to building replication solutions.
Conclusion: Ultimately, I chose HPE Primera because 3par Storeserv does not have integration with cloud services, which is something I need.
Manager at a financial services firm with 1,001-5,000 employees
Dec 17, 2021
@Janet Staver great summary, couldn't have said it better.
However, please note that HPE 3PAR has file support while Primera doesn't.
So, weigh that with your use case and requirements.
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3PAR is SAS-based storage. The industry is already moving away from the 35-year-old SCSI-way, so it's not a good idea to buy any product with it.
I'm not sure about Hitachi, but as far as I know, they also have SAS backend, so, the obvious answer to the question "Which should I choose?" is "none of them".
My recommendation is - choose other vendors (or models) which provide end-to-end NVMe support and make a choice between them.
Hitachi, if cost and performance for mission-critical apps are high priority.
Otherwise, HPW 3PAR (or now HPE Primera) will be the best all-around for cost and performance. Plus, HPE's Storage Insight is the best on the market
It depends on what kind of requirement you will use with this All-Flash Storage Array.
Usually, high random IOPS is a must for AFA, however, recently there are more and more requirements that are talking about low latency as the key in the virtualization environment. So if you would like just for high random IOPS and MBPs, considering the SAS SSD AFA will be enough, but if lower latency will be your major impact in the environment, NVMe AFA will be the best.
https://blog.qsan.com/why-does...
NImble Storage from HPE or Primera, Hitachi sold their disk division. HPE 3Par will be announced soon as the end of life.
Instead, Primera has been created (Primera has the best from Nimble and 3Par). I hope it helps.
I think that you need to meet the needs looking to the best fit to your environment. Looking into Hitachi Vantara portfolio, you will see entry level storage to enterprise. At my point of view, performance, reliability and scalability should be considered.
Another consideration above performance (IOPS and latency), you must to provide the correct profile, such as block size, random or sequencial data, cache hit, replication and snapshots needs. All those informations provides a better solution for your environment.
Dont you forget about the scalability, I think that you must to know how you are growing to fit the best equipment.
Hitachi Virtual Storage Platform F Series.
@Sheereen Alashqar can you please explain (technically) why you recommend this product and not the other one? Thanks
Hi,
Just assess Pure Storage box as well and also if you are focusing on some specific workload do mention it while discussing with the Pure Storage team like OLTP, DB(SQL/Oracle) or any platform service, etc. At last, your budget is also a major factor while evaluating. As all Flash Arrays do cost more.
Both are great platforms, but if you are considering all flash solutions, I would recommend you to consider Pure Storage. It may be more expensive, but it should pay for itself for its functionalities.
Take a Dorado 3000 V6 form Huawei. Huawei OceanStor Dorado V6 all-flash storage sets new benchmarks in storage performance and reliability. The OceanStor Dorado delivers best-in-class performance of up to 20,000,000 IOPS. With the AI chips they are the first in the industry to deliver storage systems that get more intelligent
during the application operations.
I would like to advise in general:
1). Make your choice/selection based on your requirements; not based on product.
2). Find product(s) that best fit those requirements.
3). There are lot of features which are selling points for All-Flash Storage manufacturers; you will find those at their website in-front product page if those features are not in #1 of your requirements then search features in them for what you need OR search the product which has the selling points what you are actually looking for(Functional" and "Non-functional" requirements).
To get to an appropriate and correct "Solution" you need to:
Make a list of "Functional" and "Non-functional" requirements and select the product that can get to your business goals effectively.
You can check Pure storage. The Hitachi Virtual Storage Platform F Series is very good.
I do not have it in my environment but I have studied the box and it's good.
If you are not looking at Pure you are missing the boat! 100 % satisfied customers, best economics, management, highest uptime, I could go on and on. See https://www.purestorage.com/re...
@reviewer1322832 can you please provide any comparison/factual numbers vs 2 products mentioned in the question?
Ms. Ashouri,
To answer this question correctly, I would need to know how you plan to use the storage, the applications, the required IOPS/latencies/throughput, your budget, capacity requirements, data protection requirements, rack space, power, cooling, networking, etc. Choosing between the two platforms in an information vacuum is irrelevant. There are other considerations. What is your experience with either vendor? What is your planned lifecycle for the storage? What are your company's internal politics?
On a personal note, I do not have a vested interest in what you select. Both are fine products. There are better. But if these are the two you have narrowed your selection, then either one is a good product. Each has advantages and disadvantages vs. the other.
Good luck.
Cheers
Marc
Both storage systems are perfect, whatever choosing depends on customer needs.
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How many IOPS are demanding?
Latency?
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