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2016-10-05T13:48:00Z
Julia Frohwein - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Director of Delivery at PeerSpot (formerly IT Central Station)
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What needs improvement with Oracle Integration Cloud Service?

Please share with the community what you think needs improvement with Oracle Integration Cloud Service.

What are its weaknesses? What would you like to see changed in a future version?

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16 Answers
Nirav Sangahvi - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Oracle SOA Lead at VividEdge Corp
Real User
Top 20
2022-08-09T16:04:00Z
09 August 22

I think this product is evolving and there are certain areas where there are still some limitations. The solution has a payload size limit and there are some legacy applications we'd like to integrate but can't. We can get what we need using our on-premise product, but not OIC. Our clients generally have on-premise servers and they have processes they'd like to convert to OIC but they're not supported and so our clients look for other solutions. I would like to see more flexibility regarding accessibility to files.

VinayG - PeerSpot reviewer
Associate Consulting Manager at Huron
Real User
Top 20
2022-07-13T09:38:31Z
13 July 22

Oracle Integration Cloud Service can improve file handling. Currently, our real-time file polling limitation is 10 MB, if that size can be increased it would be helpful. For example, increasing the size from 10 MB to 1 GB.

SandeepGoyal - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Manager at Genpact - Headstrong
MSP
Top 5
2022-06-08T19:56:00Z
08 June 22

The solution did use to have stability issues, however, that is now dealt with. The solution is expensive. We would always prefer any solution to be more secure.

Rishabh Singhal - PeerSpot reviewer
Business and Technology Delivery Associate Manager at Accenture
Real User
Top 20
2022-06-03T18:23:00Z
03 June 22

This is entirely web-based development. We lack an IDE for developing integrations. Back in the days of OSB and BEPL, we had to go into the code and not just drag and drop. We used to go into XML and modify it. We could, for example, edit some XSLT or XQuery documentation, but this is mostly a drag-and-drop. A person cannot directly enter the code or examine and modify so many variables. As a result, one had to rely solely on the drag and drop feature. Oracle has implemented a few modifications. For example, you can now manually edit the XSLT by going into the code, but there are many things you cannot change. You cannot move from one location to another. UI-based controls still have room to improve, but migration can be made simple. If we are migrating integrations from one environment to another, such as development to testing, if it is a one-click migration, which is possible in some cases, that would have been good. As of now, we simply export the IIR and import it into the new environment. Migration and the User Interface could be improved. Make it more similar to the on-premises features. For example, if you can edit the code directly rather than just dragging and dropping, or if you can edit the examples by going into the background, and one-click migration, I'd like to see included in the next release.

Arun Andavar Nagarajan - PeerSpot reviewer
Technical Manager at PricewaterhouseCoopers
Real User
Top 10Leaderboard
2022-05-29T12:55:00Z
29 May 22

In terms of improvement, debugging and error handling, Oracle can be much more user-friendly on this, because clients must provide a much more error handling framework, which is a monitoring framework, that is much better. The current one has some level of monitoring, but then there are retrying mechanisms, automatically retrying mechanisms and error recovery mechanisms. Those things need to be greatly improved; they have something, but it is very basic. The error retrying mechanism could be improved. If an error occurs, it can be retried automatically, it would be helpful. Resilience can be enhanced. The migration flow has to improve. They have some kind of agent connecting with the on-premise systems. We need to simplify the process of connecting with non-cloud applications. If you have to connect to some servers from this cloud to non-cloud, that is a bit of a hassle. They now have something called an agent for those, but they can simplify it, and the error frameworks can be implemented much more effectively.

SS
Senior Manager at PricewaterhouseCoopers
Real User
2022-04-27T11:56:39Z
27 April 22

The bulk processing needs improvement. When the data it needs to process is huge, then it does not work well, for example, when we're talking about gigabytes or terabytes. If data is received in this way, then this middleware doesn't work properly. We would like to see more out-of-the-box adapters with different boundary applications. The solution needs the support of more EDI protocols, like RosettaNet.

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KS
Technical Architect at a financial services firm with 10,001+ employees
Real User
Top 5
2022-01-05T08:23:40Z
05 January 22

There are a few features that we noticed are not in the cloud. There are some improvements needed. One example is the graphical user interface that needs to improve, it could be easier to use.

Jang-Vijay Singh - PeerSpot reviewer
Consulting Software Engineer at Singhpora Consulting
Real User
Top 5
2021-01-28T02:57:00Z
28 January 21

Improvements can be made in several areas, as follows: * Configurable timeouts on each connection would be better than a single global timeout that applies to all. The rationale for why timeouts are necessary is described here: https://weblog.singhpora.com/2019/07/fault-tolerance-in-integration-flows.html In my opinion, this feature can actually save resources (CPU, memory) for Oracle and also deliver better runtime functionality to customers. * Retryable scopes and activities could be useful. * Easier ability to edit a DB operation via DBAdapter when a schema changes, such as a column added or removed from a table. At least as of version 20.1.3.0.0 (200401.0200.34935), this required some careful manual editing of artefacts. * Better ability to edit XSLTs and maybe XQuery in the future. As of this version, any non-trivial editing of XSLT requires unpacking and re-packing the deployable archives (iar) manually. * Ability to add Java libraries for very corner situations like file/ftp adapter valves, which is a feature that exists in Oracle Service Bus and can be very useful in some rare situations. * Consistent Oracle Support experience. I had the pleasure of interacting with some of the finest professionals in the industry, from the infrastructure and systems administration team allocated by Oracle to the customer. However, in some other situations, I found it very hard to explain very basic issues to Oracle Support. It involved so much effort and repetition that I often found it simpler to find a workaround or alternative. Ultimately, Oracle support did provide solutions too, and acknowledged some of my important enhancement requests for future product quality.

Jang-Vijay Singh - PeerSpot reviewer
Consulting Software Engineer at Singhpora Consulting
Real User
Top 5
03 February 22

@Jang-Vijay Singh An update on the improvements since I wrote this comment: 
*XSLT editing in code mode is now possible. 
*DBAdapter updates after schema changes (like columns added/removed from a DB table) also works fine via the designer wizard - it only needs slightly non-intuitive sequence of steps

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Jang-Vijay Singh - PeerSpot reviewer
Consulting Software Engineer at Singhpora Consulting
Real User
Top 5
2021-01-27T16:55:10Z
27 January 21

It lacks configurable time-outs on connections. Configurable time-outs is an important nonfunctional property that it is currently missing. I have also written about it in an article, and I have also submitted some enhancement requests. Its visual designer could be a bit more responsive. It would also be good to get more XSLT editing capabilities.

GS
Customer Solutions Architect at S&P Global Market Intelligence
Real User
2020-08-06T06:44:45Z
06 August 20

IDCS doesn't currently have a fully fledged workflow feature like they have in OIM for provisioning lifecycle management of the user, which means having to create a user in IDCS, getting approval for the financials and security before pushing into the Oracle Financial Cloud setup. They have a light version for now and that should be improved. If you want to provision a user with IDCS, you need to kick an approval process and rely on PCS for that, which is risky. We are currently using OIM as an on premise application, where you get the full suite of approval and don't have to go to other cloud applications. That's lacking in ICS. There's no out-of-the-box solution like OIM in IDC. There's also no in-built hierarchy for approval. You can't directly use your HR hierarchy for the approval process. It requires writing custom approval policies and maintaining the provision to do that. More approvals features would be good. Finally, there are two options of database. You can bring your own license, or take the enterprise license and use it as a loan license which unfortunately costs. Given that we're already paying for the database enterprise, why should we go and pay again for the PaaS. We've asked about that but haven't had a good response.

Jeremy Lee - PeerSpot reviewer
Founder/Owner at Catalyst Commerce Systems Sdn Bhd
Real User
Top 10
2020-06-03T06:54:51Z
03 June 20

Our client was quite concerned about the cost, which is something that could be reduced. Having more documentation about different use cases and test cases would be helpful when it comes to integration.

PC
Director Of Analytics at a pharma/biotech company with 501-1,000 employees
Real User
2020-03-04T08:49:00Z
04 March 20

It could be improved in the supply chain. I think some of these features are just available to their own consulting services, their own professional services arm. Not all features are available to the implementation partners. So especially the features that are related to leverage mission turning and artificial intelligence. They're still not available to the partners in reality. So in that case, if they make tools framework available for us, then we would give them an eight.

VK
Architect at a recruiting/HR firm
Real User
2019-12-12T07:48:00Z
12 December 19

The solution could benefit from using things like AI and machine learning. For example, with certain orchestration fails it would be helpful to look at them as a way to either terminate or re-issue or restart the whole process again. Oracle-based automation blueprints for the majority of the integrations would be helpful to have in a future release. There are some default recommendations that shouldn't be done in some of the firewall integrations. At the end of the day, I don't use the product straight out of the box. Some of the finer integrations have problems like looping or standard patterns that we will have to integrate with Windows and Linux right away. It would be helpful if Oracle could provide one quick deployment method. The solution needs to provide good oversight over the entire integration platform, with more analytic capabilities.

RJ
DevOps Manager at a computer software company with 51-200 employees
Real User
2019-12-09T10:58:00Z
09 December 19

The product has to mature a lot. I think they've created a lot of cloud integration platforms, and their integration cloud has to mature a lot more in terms of features and capabilities. There are other improvements for the integration cloud, like how it works with EPI. They should bring in more orchestration and integration because it's a cloud-based solution. Now the platform is not built in a way that you can define.

PK
EMEA Service Delivery Manager at a computer software company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
2019-08-21T06:36:00Z
21 August 19

There could be much improvement in integration and automation within the solution. The solution needs better dashboarding. There should be reports on running reloads, how things are being deployed and what's in the pipeline. If there was a nice dashboard to have a look at this information, that would allow for more control of the tool itself. From a performance perspective, there could be more improvements done.

Phil Wilkins - PeerSpot reviewer
Enterprise Integration Architect at Capgemini
Consultant
Top 5Leaderboard
2016-10-05T13:48:00Z
05 October 16

Some of the adapters could be enhanced to make integration even simpler. The example I would use is the GMail interface - it requires Base64 encoded content. But to make the interface simpler, the API should provide the encoding and the adapter simply accept plain text.

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Phil Wilkins - PeerSpot reviewer
Enterprise Integration Architect at Capgemini
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Integration Cloud is more focused on event-driven integration models. It is also an OCI native service.  ODI is primarily suited to bulk data activities such as data loads, data migration. Now ODI has two flavours: native OCI with a small feature set aimed at enabling cloud migration and then the traditional ODI.  The traditional version is the same product as used on-premise but packaged to run a VM. As a result, it is offered on the Oracle cloud marketplace.
Dovid Gelber - PeerSpot reviewer
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Oracle Integration Cloud Service has a fairly easy initial setup, and Oracle offers initial support and guidance for those who might find the setup to be challenging. There are complications that come up, though, as far as integrating and maintaining the system. Organizations that choose this product will need to bring experts on board to oversee the security and system administration. Those aspects are so complex that to keep the system running smoothly and effectively, you need to employ people who know the proper IT procedures to manage them. Ultimately, an organization will have to make additional investments to get proper use out of Oracle Integration Cloud Service. Oracle Data Integrator offers a comparable level of set up complexity to Oracle Integration Cloud Service. The program for the initial setup does offer step-by-step instructions which make deployment easier. However, additional software such as Agent Setup is required for ODI to function fully. Therefore, while an organization can follow a guide to set up ODI, additional steps beyond the initial deployment are necessary before one can use the product fully. Oracle Integration Cloud Service offers different pricing models for their licenses. Among the easiest for businesses to deal with is a pay-as-you-go option. This provides organizations with great flexibility in choosing what they want to pay and the type of services that they want to receive. Organizations will be able to spend their resources more effectively when they control the prices that they are paying. ODI has a price which is not exactly the most expensive solution on the market. However, it is not the cheapest either. There is no flexibility in ODI’s pricing like there is for Oracle Integration Cloud Service. Organizations really only have two options: they can pay the price or use another product. ODI does not allow for the kind of customization that Oracle Integration Cloud Service offers. Conclusion Oracle Integration Cloud Service and Oracle Data Integrator are comparable as far as the difficulty that an organization might have in setting them and deploying them. In both cases additional resources are needed after the initial setup stages in order to get them set up properly. The area in which they truly differ is in the ability of Oracle Integration Cloud Service to be customized, both in terms of price and in terms of services obtained. ODI lacks this flexibility.
Julia Frohwein - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Director of Delivery at PeerSpot (formerly IT Central Station)
Aug 09, 2022
Hi Everyone, What do you like most about Oracle Integration Cloud Service? Thanks for sharing your thoughts with the community!
2 out of 16 answers
RJ
DevOps Manager at a computer software company with 51-200 employees
09 December 19
The most important part would be the use of connectors. The significant number of cloud connectors available for active integration is its value.
VK
Architect at a recruiting/HR firm
12 December 19
It's very easy to get started on the solution. It's also easy to maintain, scale, and integrate according to cost factors.
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