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Question: Which ETL tool would you recommend to populate data from OLTP to OLAP?
Answer: We have experiences only in Pentaho Data Integrator (open source competitor of the Oracle Data Integrator). But OLAP exporting wasn't in our scope until now.
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Pros
"The amount of data that it loads and processes is good.""It's my understanding that the product can scale.""The fact that it enables us to leverage metadata to automate data pipeline templates and reuse them is definitely one of the features that we like the best. The metadata injection is helpful because it reduces the need to create and maintain additional ETLs. If we didn't have that feature, we would have lots of duplicated ETLs that we would have to create and maintain. The data pipeline templates have definitely been helpful when looking at productivity and costs.""The solution has a free to use community version.""We're using the PDI and the repository function, and they give us the ability to easily generate reporting and output, and to access data. We also like the ability to schedule.""The graphical nature of the development interface is most useful because we've got people with quite mixed skills in the team. We've got some very junior, apprentice-level people, and we've got support analysts who don't have an IT background. It allows us to have quite complicated data flows and embed logic in them. Rather than having to troll through lines and lines of code and try and work out what it's doing, you get a visual representation, which makes it quite easy for people with mixed skills to support and maintain the product. That's one side of it.""Lumada has allowed us to interact with our employees more effectively and compensate them properly. One of the cool things is that we use it to generate commissions for our salespeople and bonuses for our warehouse people. It allows us to get information out to them in a timely fashion. We can also see where they're at and how they're doing.""Flexible deployment, in any environment, is very important to us. That is the key reason why we ended up with these tools. Because we have a very highly secure environment, we must be able to install it in multiple environments on multiple different servers. The fact that we could use the same tool in all our environments, on-prem and in the cloud, was very important to us."

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"All ETL code is stored in repositories in underlying database schemas. The number of users can access and work on the same solution using a client tool. So distributed teams can work on this tool in an efficient manner.""The most valuable features of ODI are the ease of development, you can have a template, and you can onboard transfer very quickly. There's a lot of knowledge modules available that we can use. If you want to connect, for example, a Sibyl, SQL, Oracle, or different products, we don't have to develop them from scratch. They are available, but if it's not, we can go into the marketplace and see if there's a connector there. Having the connector available reduces the amount of hard work needed. We only have to put the inputs and outputs. In some of the products, we use there is already integration available for ODI, which is helpful.""The scalability is great. It's one of the reasons we chose the solution."

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Cons
"I'm still in the very recent stage concerning Pentaho Data Integration, but it can't really handle what I describe as "extreme data processing" i.e. when there is a huge amount of data to process. That is one area where Pentaho is still lacking.""The reporting definitely needs improvement. There are a lot of general, basic features that it doesn't have. A simple feature you would expect a reporting tool to have is the ability to search the repository for a report. It doesn't even have that capability. That's been a feature that we've been asking for since the beginning and it hasn't been implemented yet.""I would like to see improvements made for real-time data processing.""The testing and quality could really improve. Every time that there is a major release, we are very nervous about what is going to get broken. We have had a lot of experience with that, as even the latest one was broken. Some basic things get broken. That doesn't look good for Hitachi at all. If there is one place I would advise them to spend some money and do some effort, it is with the quality. It is not that hard to start putting in some unit tests so basic things don't get broken when they do a new release. That just looks horrible, especially for an organization like Hitachi.""The product needs more plugins.""It's not very stable, at least not in the case of the community edition. I'm working with the community edition right now and I think perhaps it is because of that it is not very stable, it causes the system to sometimes hang. I'm not sure if this is the case for pair tiers.""Some of the scheduling features about Lumada drive me buggy. The one issue that always drives me up the wall is when Daylight Savings Time changes. It doesn't take that into account elegantly. Every time it changes, I have to do something. It's not a big deal, but it's annoying.""Since Hitachi took over, I don't feel that the documentation is as good within the solution. It used to have very good help built right in."

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"There are certain things where it can be improved. Initial solution setup seems a bit complex at the start, it should be improved because it becomes bit tough for a novice to get started on this. Sometimes error description is not helpful to understand the problem it gives some generic type of errors which are at times not that helpful to understand the underlying root cause of the issue.""The resource management aspect of the solution could be improved.""The interface of ODI could be improved. For example, navigating and finding functions can be difficult. For example, you have to know which step you need to go to look at where your job status is. The logical step is a bit complex compared to other tools. It's much easier to get a graphical view, but with ODI, it's graphical, plus you have to know all the other pieces that fit around it. You have to think about the logical and physical aspects."

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Pricing and Cost Advice
  • "The price of the regular version is not reasonable and it should be lower."
  • "Sometimes we provide the licenses or the customer can procure their own licenses. Previously, we had an enterprise license. Currently, we are on a community license as this is adequate for our needs."
  • "It does seem a bit expensive compared to the serverless product offering. Tools such as Server Integration Services are "almost" free with a database engine. It is comparable to products like Alteryx, which is also very expensive."
  • "I think Lumada's price is fair compared to some of the others, like BusinessObjects, which is was the other thing that I used at my previous job. BusinessObject's price was more reasonable before SAP acquired it. They jacked the price up significantly. Oracle's OBIEE tool was also prohibitively expensive."
  • "When we first started with it, it was much cheaper. It has gone up drastically, especially since Hitachi bought out Pentaho."
  • "The cost of these types of solutions are expensive. So, we really appreciate what we get for our money. Though, we don't think of the solution as a top-of-the-line solution or anything like that."
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  • "The solution is expensive because of the model they use. The cost is for the license and for support."
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    Answers from the Community
    RajneeshShukla
    author avatarAThiré
    User

    There are two products I know about
    * TimeXtender : Microsoft based, Transformation logic is quiet good and can easily be extended with T-SQL , Has a semantic layer that generates metat data for cubes . price approx 40K$, works with tables
    . Attunity (Bought by Qlik) : technology agnostic , nice web interface , expensive > 100K€. Works with transaction logs

    There are many other pure ETL tools
    * ERWIN has a nice one ,

    author avatarPhil Wilkins (Capgemini)
    Consultant

    Depends upon the technologies being used. If you're using Oracle for both OLTP and OLAP then you'll get a lot of value from an Oracle solution.


    The other question is how up to date do you want your OLAP DB to be? Goldengate is a good answer if you're looking to minimize latency, but it can be expensive. ODI is less expensive but better suited to bulkier data sets.  If an Oracle product wasn't the option I'd probably consider something like Informatica.

    author avatarKaroly Krokovay
    User

    Hi Rajneesh,
    yes here is the feature comparison between the community and enterprise edition : https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/pdf/brochure/leverage-open-source-benefits-with-assurance-of-hitachi-overview.pdf

    And a short description of the community edition: https://www.predictiveanalyticstoday.com/pentaho-community-edition/

    And the download link: https://community.hitachivantara.com/s/article/downloads

    You can ask more from the great community: https://forums.pentaho.com/

    Regards
    Károly

    author avatarStefan Schäfer
    User

    We usually use Talend.
    Look here: https://community.talend.com/t5/Design-and-Development/The-way-from-OLTP-to-OLAP/td-p/116719

    author avatarGaryM
    Real User

    As someone mentioned, if you're purely Oracle shop and staying that way then there's value with prioritizing Oracle tools.  However, let me contrast that with this caveat...


    Consider expectations for tool and vendor longevity. Oracle has a long history of retiring and/or replacing tools leaving customers in the cold with prior versions/tools (I've been burned multiple times by Oracle product retirements or replacements including OWB, Oracle Designer2k, Oracle Express, Oracle OEDW, their purchase of Sagent ETL which as later abandoned).


    But I would also consider these questions and relative prioritization:  


    What is your organization's plans for moving to other database technologies?  


    Where is your org going with on-prem versus cloud solutions?  How important are PaaS versus IaaS solutions?  


    Where is your current staff's expertise?  


    Prioritize mature over immature tools. 


    How many sources do you have?  What are their technologies and does the integration tool support them?


    Is it just moving data from a single ERP such as Oracle EBS to Olap? When you say Olap what do you mean by that?  Are you talking Oracle Olap product or something else?  That makes a really big difference of course - if your ETL tool doesn't support your source(s) and target(s) then it shouldn't be considered.


    Given the industry's trajectory, I myself would highly prioritize PaaS solutions over others.

    author avatarYeap Jiun Aing
    Real User

    What is the OLAP that you are using? Hosted in Cloud or on-premise? 


    The target DB should have its tool to extract data.

    author avatarEfe Dagistanli
    User

    Pentaho is a really nice tool if opensource is the only option. 


    Please think about issues such as upgrade and disaster in the future. These operations are very easy in Pentaho.


    I can only suggest one thing for replication and that is Qlik. (ex-Attunity).

    author avatarRajneeshShukla
    Real User

    Hi Karoly, Thanks for your input. community: https://forums.pentaho.com/ is not allowing new registrations for new users. I guess they accept queries from customers only and not from any one. Do you know any other forum, community, SMEs contacts who can help on queries?

    Questions from the Community
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    Hi Rajneesh, yes here is the feature comparison between the community and enterprise edition :… more »
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    What is the OLAP that you are using? Hosted in Cloud or on-premise?  The target DB should have its tool to extract data.
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    The fact that it enables us to leverage metadata to automate data pipeline templates and reuse them is definitely one of the features that we like the best. The metadata injection is helpful because… more »
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    Oracle Integration Cloud Service has a fairly easy initial setup, and Oracle offers initial support and guidance for those who might find the setup to be challenging. There are complications that come… more »
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    I know I'm late to the party but here are my comments to this. I would ask what version of ODI are you running, but for the most part it doesn't matter. I will say that since you are saying Mapping… more »
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    The most valuable features of ODI are the ease of development, you can have a template, and you can onboard transfer very quickly. There's a lot of knowledge modules available that we can use. If you… more »
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    Pentaho data integration prepares and blends data to create a complete picture of your business that drives actionable insights. The complete data integration platform delivers accurate, "analytics ready" data to end users from any source. With visual tools to eliminate coding and complexity, Pentaho puts big data and all data sources at the fingertips of business and IT users alike.

    Oracle Data Integrator is a comprehensive data integration platform that covers all data integration requirements: from high-volume, high-performance batch loads, to event-driven, trickle-feed integration processes, to SOA-enabled data services. Oracle Data Integrator (ODI) 12c, the latest version of Oracle’s strategic Data Integration offering, provides superior developer productivity and improved user experience with a redesigned flow-based declarative user interface and deeper integration with Oracle GoldenGate. 

    ODI12c further builds on its flexible and high-performance architecture with comprehensive big data support and added parallelism when executing data integration processes.  It includes interoperability with Oracle Warehouse Builder (OWB) for a quick and simple migration for OWB customers to ODI12c.  Additionally, ODI can be monitored from a single solution along with other Oracle technologies and applications through the integration with Oracle Enterprise Manager 12c.

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    Lumada Data Integration is ranked 17th in Data Integration Tools with 9 reviews while Oracle Data Integrator (ODI) is ranked 5th in Data Integration Tools with 6 reviews. Lumada Data Integration is rated 7.6, while Oracle Data Integrator (ODI) is rated 8.6. The top reviewer of Lumada Data Integration writes "Saves time and makes it easy for our mixed-skilled team to support the product, but more guidance and better error messages are required in the UI". On the other hand, the top reviewer of Oracle Data Integrator (ODI) writes "I have used it to improve run-times of many corporations' overall integration run-times". Lumada Data Integration is most compared with Talend Open Studio, SSIS, Informatica PowerCenter, IBM InfoSphere DataStage and Azure Data Factory, whereas Oracle Data Integrator (ODI) is most compared with Oracle Integration Cloud Service, Informatica PowerCenter, SSIS, Oracle GoldenGate and Palantir Foundry. See our Lumada Data Integration vs. Oracle Data Integrator (ODI) report.

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