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Forcepoint Next Generation Firewall vs Rapid7 InsightIDR comparison

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Categories and Ranking

Fortinet FortiGate
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Average Rating
8.4
Reviews Sentiment
7.2
Number of Reviews
330
Ranking in other categories
Firewalls (2nd), Software Defined WAN (SD-WAN) Solutions (1st), WAN Edge (1st)
Forcepoint Next Generation ...
Average Rating
7.6
Reviews Sentiment
6.7
Number of Reviews
44
Ranking in other categories
Firewalls (27th), Software Defined WAN (SD-WAN) Solutions (11th), WAN Edge (12th)
Rapid7 InsightIDR
Average Rating
8.4
Reviews Sentiment
7.4
Number of Reviews
32
Ranking in other categories
Security Information and Event Management (SIEM) (9th), User Entity Behavior Analytics (UEBA) (2nd), Endpoint Detection and Response (EDR) (18th), Threat Deception Platforms (5th), Extended Detection and Response (XDR) (14th)
 

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Firewalls
Security Information and Event Management (SIEM)
 

Featured Reviews

EhabAli - PeerSpot reviewer
Efficient, user-friendly, and affordable
In the past, NSS Labs was utilized to test files and verify the numbers and datasheets. It would be beneficial to have an organization or testing lab that can verify the numbers in our datasheets since changes are frequently made, which can be inconvenient for review. For instance, when comparing different competitors such as Forcepoint, Palo Alto, and Check Point, the throughput or numbers in the datasheet may be lower than the actual numbers. Conversely, Fortinet typically reports very high numbers, but they cannot be replicated in the real world. Therefore, it would be advantageous for them to partner with a neutral testing organization such as NSS Labs to validate these numbers, thus providing more credibility and comfort to everyone regarding the accuracy of the datasheets. For the migration, everyone has a firewall in use and I am selling Fortinet. Typically, I am replacing another firewall. Previously, there was a tool available to convert configurations from one firewall, such as Palo Alto, to Fortinet, but this tool is no longer free. If it could be made free again, it would be very beneficial. This tool shows a lot of promise and is very good. Making it free would help many companies deliver their products in a more efficient and integrated way. It would also be more valuable to include the tool with the firewall package or license instead of having to pay extra for it. Paying extra puts more pressure on small companies to deliver the firewall and complete the configuration, especially if they have hundreds or thousands of policies. It's very painful to move through these policies line by line. The stability has room for improvement. When it comes to Secure SD-WAN, everything is fine. They are going the right way. SD-WAN is very promising. They can provide the SD-WAN solution separately, but they will not take this approach because even the smallest firewall can support the features, so there is no need to have a separate service or appliance. They are following the right steps, and there is nothing to be improved. Feature-wise, I'm really satisfied with the new release, and the features they have added. For now, it's fine.
OusaidAbaz - PeerSpot reviewer
Provides decent protection for the LAN but complicated interface
We had some licensing issues with its web filtering capabilities. That's why we migrated our web filtering to Cisco Umbrella. Moreover, the interface is complicated. It's difficult to locate all the necessary menus and functions. For example, one of the many issues is with SSH. Even now, we haven't successfully opened the port to connect using SSH mode when we want to change the configuration. It's like a black box—not very open to changes and customization. It's simply not easy to configure. There are other problems, too. For example regarding Forcepoint's Websense component. We had a lot of problems managing the web settings within Websense. That's why we migrated to Cisco Umbrella for cloud-based web filtering. It's not that Forcepoint is inherently bad. The issue is that it's not user-friendly. It is not easy to use. The developers need to redesign the interface (GUI) for better management. It is very difficult to manage. For example, simple actions require too many clicks compared to FortiGate or Palo Alto. That's the main problem.
Asim Naeem - PeerSpot reviewer
Providing comprehensive insight into alerts while working towards AI enhancement
I definitely recommend Rapid7 InsightIDR. It is becoming better, with improvements being continuously made to the product. Right now, I do not have any advice about Rapid7 for other users because every organization or user has different criteria or multiple use cases, so I refrain from commenting on that. I rate the overall solution seven out of ten.

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We asked business professionals to review the solutions they use. Here are some excerpts of what they said:
 

Pros

"The features I find most useful in Fortinet FortiGate are its simplicity of utilization, which is very important, and its provision of interfaces to see the alerts and other things."
"It's very fast and easy to configure."
"The most valuable feature is the SSL VPN, as it allows us to connect and it separates this product from other firewalls."
"The wireless control is helpful."
"LinkGreat firewall capabilities"
"The most valuable features of Fortinet FortiGate are the ease of use and the UI. It has always provided me with what I needed. I have no need for additional costs that other solutions have, such as Sophos."
"Whenever we raise a complaint with FortiGate, their response and resolution times are minimal."
"The solution is extremely reliable."
"It is a stable solution, and there are no issues so far."
"The blocking, based on the signal provided, is the solution's most valuable aspect."
"Technical support has been quite helpful in the past."
"It provides decent protection for the LAN, especially in run mode."
"I have two offices, and I can route the internet of both offices using the same product. The connectivity is great."
"The people we deal with is a local partner in Cambodia and we can get good support from them."
"I like the Firewall and the IPS."
"The initial setup is very easy."
"Rapid7 InsightIDR integrates well with other solutions. It's also easy to configure because Rapid7 InsightIDR has a lot of instructions posted on their website that customers can follow if they need to get the source log."
"​​User behavioral analytics allows us to pinpoint abnormal or suspicious behavior among millions of events every day."
"The platform offers unlimited storage and agent-based solutions."
"Log search allows us to dive deep into aggregated logs and query all event types at once.​"
"I am able to run automated actions based on the output of reports, leaving me extra time to focus on more pressing matters."
"InsightIDR has allowed us to find potential security issues that we did not know existed, and get remediation quickly."
"Great coverage of all systems within our network from endpoint to firewall."
"The solution is very scalable in terms of the licensing model."
 

Cons

"The SD-WAN functionality is a bit overly complicated and not fully documented."
"Fortinet FortiGate needs to improve the protection, it did not prevent us from being attacked. Additionally, Fortinet FortiGate could provide more features for WAF devices. I should not have to purchase two solutions, it would be a benefit to combine these features into one solution."
"There are just some services that aren't available. For example, the Ethernet or point-to-point protocols. They could add these services to their product offering - especially services for ISPs."
"I would like to see improvements made to the dashboard and UI, as well as to the reporting."
"Pricing for it is a bit high. It could be cheaper."
"The setup is pretty complex and not easy to implement."
"They could improve the response time and quality of support."
"I need user-behavior analytics, to find threat scenarios from inside the organization, insider attacks. That would be very helpful for us. In addition, I would like next-generation features for small and medium businesses. These businesses require UTM, all in one product. Fortinet must include it."
"This solution would be improved with the inclusion of custom reporting."
"The optimization is not really ready. If you want very good optimization, you have to add it to the network."
"If I want to allow access to Facebook, yet not allow the user to access videos, then I am not able to do it with this product."
"A VPN client feature is missing in our region, which we hope Forcepoint will address in future updates."
"We feel the product's technical support could be better, as this relates to the solution itself, to the installation of the product, and to having a proper understanding of the case."
"They need to work on stability, it has not been the best in our experience."
"They should have a local vendor who can provide support. Most of the support is overseas, so the time zones can be a problem."
"The company should update the URL filtering database. They need to enhance the URL filtering and make it easier to customize."
"Sometimes, it is hard to get the right queries to use. Currently, the tool lacks a pre-made set of queries."
"There is a future in AI with Rapid7, however, it is not fully operated. There are certain limitations with Rapid7 that I am working on."
"Rapid7 InsightIDR is not intuitive to search for logs. It should be more user-friendly and improve the dashboards. We should be able to use ready-made templates instead of having to build one."
"It would be useful to import threat intelligence in YARA format along with known incorrect email addresses.​"
"They should add more configuration and security features to it."
"There are certain limitations with Rapid7 that I am working on."
"The main problem lies in the processes within the client's operating systems."
"The APIs can be further improved in Rapid7."
 

Pricing and Cost Advice

"As far as I'm aware, in our case, it's just a yearly pricing arrangement with no additional licensing costs."
"If the price of the license in Fortinet FortiGate was less expensive it would be better."
"The main reason we chose Fortinet FortiGate was that the price was better than the competition."
"The pricing is fair."
"When I look around at other products, such as Sophos, Fortinet FortiGate is 20% to 30% more expensive with our current cost."
"Easy to understand licensing requirements."
"The product pricing is reasonable."
"The license is yearly. We pay for the top end. It's called 360."
"We have found the price could be reduced. It is a little expensive."
"I believe the licensing fee is for one year, three years, and five years, or something like that. If you wants to increase the support level from a simpler level to platinum, I think that there's a cost. There are differences between every kind of support, but I don't know the numbers."
"Next Generation Firewall is moderately priced."
"The big advantage of this solution is that we can select the right model for our requirements, which is not too expensive."
"The pricing of the solution is normally competitive with other products."
"The solution is expensive."
"There is a license required to use this solution and we can purchase it for one, two, three, or five years."
"The cost is fair, but it could be improved."
"The team is very willing to work with companies. My suggestion is to call the Rapid7 sales department and see how they can help.​"
"It is a reasonably priced solution."
"Rapid7 InsightIDR's pricing is reasonable."
"The pricing is good, and it is not very expensive."
"Rapid7 InsightIDR is a cheaply priced product. On a scale of one to ten, where one is very expensive, and ten is very cheap, I rate the product's price at seven or eight."
"Rapid7 InsightIDR is priced very well and is cost-effective."
"Licensing is straightforward. If, for some reason, you don’t meet the minimum licensing requirements, there is a third-party managed service that can help."
"The solution has a mid-range price point in the market"
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Top Industries

By visitors reading reviews
Educational Organization
20%
Computer Software Company
14%
Comms Service Provider
7%
Manufacturing Company
6%
Computer Software Company
18%
Financial Services Firm
10%
Manufacturing Company
10%
Government
9%
Computer Software Company
16%
Financial Services Firm
9%
Manufacturing Company
7%
Government
7%
 

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Questions from the Community

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What is your experience regarding pricing and costs for Forcepoint Next Generation Firewall?
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What needs improvement with Forcepoint Next Generation Firewall?
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What SOC product do you recommend?
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What do you like most about Rapid7 InsightIDR?
During simulations or demonstrations, the tool generates alerts, providing details such as the specific application, ...
 

Also Known As

FortiGate 60b, FortiGate 60c, FortiGate 80c, FortiGate 50b, FortiGate 200b, FortiGate 110c, FortiGate, Fortinet Firewall
Forcepoint NGFW, Stonesoft Next Generation Firewall, McAfee Network Security Platform, Intel Security Network Security Platform
InsightIDR
 

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Sample Customers

Amazon Web Services, Microsoft, IBM, Cisco, Dell, HP, Oracle, Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint, Vodafone, Orange, BT Group, Telstra, Deutsche Telekom, Comcast, Time Warner Cable, CenturyLink, NTT Communications, Tata Communications, SoftBank, China Mobile, Singtel, Telus, Rogers Communications, Bell Canada, Telkom Indonesia, Telkom South Africa, Telmex, Telia Company, Telkom Kenya
California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR)
Liberty Wines, Pioneer Telephone, Visier
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