2020-01-22T07:36:00Z
Miriam Tover - PeerSpot reviewer
Service Delivery Manager at PeerSpot (formerly IT Central Station)
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What needs improvement with erwin Data Intelligence (DI) for Data Governance?

Please share with the community what you think needs improvement with erwin Data Intelligence (DI) for Data Governance.

What are its weaknesses? What would you like to see changed in a future version?

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Jim Marr - PeerSpot reviewer
Analytics Delivery Manager at DXC
Real User
2020-10-14T06:37:00Z
Oct 14, 2020

The UI just got a real big uplift, but behind the UI, there are quite a few different integrations that go on. One big improvement we would like to see would be the workflow integration of codeset mapping with the erwin source to target mapping. That's a bit clunky for us. The two often seem to be in conflict with one another. Codeset mappings that are used within the source to target mappings are difficult to manage. Some areas we found take time to process such as metadata scans, some of the management functions at a large scale do take time to process. That's an observation that we've worked with erwin support to a degree, but it seems that's just an inherent part of the scale of our particular project.

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Manoj Narayanan - PeerSpot reviewer
Practice Director - Digital & Analytics Practice at HCL Technologies
Real User
Top 5Leaderboard
2020-10-14T06:37:00Z
Oct 14, 2020

I would like to see a lot more AI infusion into all the various areas of the solution. Another area where it can improve is by having BB-Graph-type databases where relationship discovery and relationship identification are much easier. Overall, automation for associating business terms to data items, and having automatic relationship discovery, can be improved in the upcoming releases. But I'm sure that erwin is innovating a lot.

Tracy Hautenen Kriel - PeerSpot reviewer
Architecture Sr. Manager, Data Design & Metadata Mgmt at a insurance company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
Top 5Leaderboard
2020-08-04T07:26:00Z
Aug 4, 2020

The metadata ingestion is very nice because of the ability to automate it. It would be nice to be able to do this ingestion, or set it up, from one place, instead of having to set it up separately for every data asset that is ingested. erwin has been a fantastic partner with regard to our suggestions for enhancements, and that's why I'm having difficulty thinking of areas for improvement of the solution. They are delivering enhancements that we've requested in every release.

BM
Data Program Manager at a non-tech company with 201-500 employees
Real User
2020-04-12T07:27:00Z
Apr 12, 2020

If we are talking about the business side of the product, maybe the Data Literacy could be made a bit simpler. You have to put your hands on it, so there is room for improvement.

SA
Sr. Manager, Data Governance at a insurance company with 501-1,000 employees
Real User
2020-01-30T07:55:00Z
Jan 30, 2020

It does have some customization, but it is not quite as robust as erwin DM. It's not like everything can have as many user-defined properties or customized pieces as I might like. There are a lot of little things like moving between read screens and edit screens. Those little human interface type of programming pieces will need to mature a bit to make it easier to get to where you want to go to put the stuff in.

RickDe Avila - PeerSpot reviewer
Data Architect at NAMM
Real User
2020-01-29T08:35:00Z
Jan 29, 2020

There is room for improvement in automation, no question. Also, the fact that I sometimes have to go in and out of different applications, even though it's all part of the whole erwin suite, perhaps means it could be architected a little bit better. I think they do have some ideas for improvements there. But regarding the data governance tool itself, for me there was a huge learning curve, and I'd been in software development for most of my career. The application itself, and how it runs menus and screens when you can modify and code, is complex. I have found that kind of cumbersome. I had one guy make an error and it costs us a few days because it had an impact on a whole slew of options and objects because he didn't know what he was doing. That was not their fault; it was purely my fault, allowing that to happen. For me, that was a struggle.

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MJ
Solution Architect at a pharma/biotech company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
2020-01-22T07:36:00Z
Jan 22, 2020

The SDK behind this entire product needs improvement. The company really should focus more on this because we were finding some inconsistencies on the LDK level. Everything worked fine from the UI perspective, but when we started doing some deep automation scripts going through multiple API calls inside the tool, then only some pieces of it work or it would not return the exact data it was supposed to do. This is the number one area for improvement. The tool provides the WSDL API as another point to access the data. This is the same story as with the SDK. We are heavily using this API and are finding some inconsistencies in its responses, especially as we are going for more nonstandard features inside. The team has been fixing this for us, so we have some support. This was probably overlooked by the product team to focus more on the UI rather than on the API.

Related Questions
Miriam Tover - PeerSpot reviewer
Service Delivery Manager at PeerSpot (formerly IT Central Station)
Sep 26, 2022
How do you or your organization use this solution? Please share with us so that your peers can learn from your experiences. Thank you!
2 out of 11 answers
MJ
Solution Architect at a pharma/biotech company with 10,001+ employees
Jan 22, 2020
The three big areas that we use it for right now: metadata management as a whole, versioning of metadata, and metadata mappings and automation. We have started to adopt data profiling from this tool, but it is an ongoing process. I will be adding these capabilities to my team probably in Q1 of this year.
RickDe Avila - PeerSpot reviewer
Data Architect at NAMM
Jan 29, 2020
We're a medical company and we have our own source systems that process claims from multiple organizations or health plans. In our world, there are about 17 different health plans. Within each of those health plans, the membership, or the patients, have multiple lines of businesses, and the way our company is organized, we're in three different markets with up to 17 different IPAs (Independent Physician Associations). While that is a mouthful, because of data governance, and our having own data governance tool, we understand those are key concepts and that is our use case: so that everybody in our organization knows what we are talking about. Whether it is an institutional claim, a professional claim, Blue Cross or Blue Shield, health plan payer, group titles, names, etc., our case represents 18 different titles. For us, there was a massive number of concepts and we didn't have any centralized data dictionary of our data. Our company had grown over the course of 20 years. We went from one IPA and one health plan to where we are today: in five markets, doing three major lines of businesses, etc. The medical industry in general is about 20 years behind, technology-wise, in most cases; there are a lot of manual processes. Our test use case was to start from fresh after 20 years of experience and evolution and just start over. I was given the opportunity to build a data strategy, a three-year plan where we build a repository of all sources of truth data used in governance. We have our mapping, our design, our data linkage, principles, business rules, and data stewardship program. Three years later, here we are.
Miriam Tover - PeerSpot reviewer
Service Delivery Manager at PeerSpot (formerly IT Central Station)
Sep 26, 2022
Hi, We all know it's really hard to get good pricing and cost information. Please share what you can so you can help your peers.
2 out of 11 answers
MJ
Solution Architect at a pharma/biotech company with 10,001+ employees
Jan 22, 2020
The licensing cost is around $7,000 for user. This is an estimation. There is an additional fee for the server maintenance.
RickDe Avila - PeerSpot reviewer
Data Architect at NAMM
Jan 29, 2020
The whole suite, not just the DI but the modeling software, the harvester, Mapping Manager — everything we have — is about $100,000 a year for our renewals. That works out to each module being something like $8,000 to $10,000.
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