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We performed a comparison between erwin Data Modeler by Quest and iGrafx Process360 Live Platform based on real PeerSpot user reviews.

Find out in this report how the two Business Process Design solutions compare in terms of features, pricing, service and support, easy of deployment, and ROI.
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Pros
"I have worked with erwin Data Modeler for quite some time and familiarity is its most valuable feature.""The most valuable feature is the physical or visual representation of the database, showing the tables, the columns, the foreign keys, and the ability to generate DDL, so you can physically implement databases.""Any tool will do diagramming but I think the ability to put the stuff up in a graphical fashion, then think about it, and keep things consistent is what's valuable about it. It's too easy when you're using other methods to not have naming consistent standards and column consistent definitions, et cetera.""We use the Forward and Reverse Engineering tools to help us speed things up and create things that would have to be done otherwise by hand. E.g., getting a database into a data model format or vice versa.""What has been useful, I have been able to reverse engineer our existing data models to document explicitly referential integrity relationships, primary/foreign keys in the model, and create ERDs that are subject area-based which our clients can use when working with our databases. The reality is that our databases are not explicitly documented in the DDL with primary/foreign key relationships. You can't look at the DDL and explicitly understand the primary/foreign key relationships that exist between our tables, so the referential integrity is not easily understood. erwin has allowed me to explicitly document that and create ERDs. This has made it easier for our clients to consume our databases for their own purposes.""It has centralized storage so that a data model can be shared by different teams.""The most valuable features are the ability to reverse engineer and do model comparison. With the reverse engineering, I can understand the databases from third-party products. With the model comparison, I can track the differences between two versions of the same database.""When you're getting down to the database level, where you're building a design and you're creating DDL out of it, or you're going in the other direction where you're reaching into system catalogs and bringing things back, that starts to really require specialization. Visio isn't going to reverse-engineer that for you. Those features in erwin are valuable."

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"It has simplified compliance with regulations and company standards.""iGrafx gives you the capability of documenting your process and then the ability to use it as a tool for analysis to identify the loopholes and shortcomings of your process.""The solution is very stable.""Finding the right symbol and creating links, horizontal and vertical are the features I use.""We found the technical support to be helpful.""The solution's technical support is of good quality since they offer fast and seamless services.""Provides a valuable BPMN feature.""This product fulfills ninety percent of our needs, and we're happy as users of it."

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Cons
"I would like the solution to be less rigid in terms of its theory.""I am not so happy with its speed. Sometimes, it can have problems with connections.""Although Quest Software has made tremendous strides in recent years, they need to evolve more in the big data arena; erwin Data Modeler could use a little more work when it comes to big database designs.""I find the UI very clunky and very difficult to use. If I add columns to a table the whole workflow could be so much easier. I get frustrated using it. I've tried other tools. I've tried to get off of erwin a few times. I always come back to it because every tool has its own set of problems, and it seems like if I have to pick my poison, I stay with erwin. But so many things that are clunky with it.""I would like to see improved reporting and, potentially, dashboards built on top of that. Right now, it's a little manual. More automated reporting and dashboard views would help because currently you have to push things out to a spreadsheet, or to HTML, and there aren't many other options that I know of. I would like to be able to produce graphs and additional things right in the tool, instead of having to export the data somewhere else.""The reverse engineering in Oracle Databases needs improvement, as there are issues.""The only real complaint I have is the time it takes to do a database comparison on a large model. If they could speed that up, that would be the only thing I can think of that needs improvement.""I would like to see the ability to support more NoSQL platforms more quickly. In addition, enhancing the graphics to render more quickly would be beneficial for any user."

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"I would love to see a template and shapes for customer journey mapping.""In the next release, I would like to see more layers like three, four, and five. It might be possible but I haven't seen it yet.""The solution could benefit from improvements to its interface. More specifically, when compared to other tools, the process modeling features lack symbols or object types that are used to represent the information or data within the process.""The look and feel, along with the ease of use of the solution's web modeling version, is an area with certain shortcomings.""The price could be more competitive.""It would be helpful to be able to do more analytics and generate reports on historical documents that have already been uploaded to the server.""It would be nice to have a Spanish user interface available to us.""Dragging and dropping shapes is not as user-friendly as in Visio. In Visio, it's very easy to work with shapes and in very few minutes you can plot a whole, multi swim-lane, cross-functional process."

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Pricing and Cost Advice
  • "The primary reasons that erwin was selected were that it was much more affordable for us [than Embarcadero] and it was easily maintainable."
  • "This company had bought the license for three years, and it's not an individual license. While you can buy a license for each individual, that would be very expensive. There is something called concurrent licenses where you can purchase licenses in bulk and 15 to 20 people can access the license and model. Concurrent licenses are scalable to the number of users and are proportional to the cost."
  • "An issue right now would be that erwin doesn't have a freely available browser (that I am aware of) for people who are not data modelers or data engineers that a consumer could use to look at the data models and play with it. This would not be to make any changes, but just to visually look at what exists. There are other products out there which do have end user browsers available and allow them to access data models via the data modeling tool."
  • "The price should be lower in order to be on the same level as its competitors."
  • "I wish it wasn't so expensive. I would love to personally buy a copy of my own and have it at home, because the next job that I'm looking at is probably project management and I might not have access to the tool. I would like to keep my ability to use the tool. Therefore, they should probably have a pricing for people like me who want to just use the solution as an independent consultant, trying to get started. $3,000 is a big hit."
  • "There are no costs in addition to the standard licensing fees."
  • "I don't specifically know what we're paying now. About three years ago, in another organization, I have this memory of 6,000 AUD a seat or something like that, but I am not sure. In the mid-2000s, it was something like 1,200 AUD a seat. I get the impression that there was a price jump when it was spun off from CA as a separate company, which is understandable, but it could sometimes be a barrier in some organizations picking it up. I haven't talked to erwin people yet, but I'm going to suggest to them that they could perhaps think of having an entry-level product that is priced a bit lower, and then, you can buy the extra suite."
  • "The price of erwin Data Modeler is very expensive, in particular for this part of the world."
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  • "My company is trying to replace iGrafx because the license is a little bit expensive."
  • "Our license is a subscription-based model that is per user. The solution is not expensive, I believe a subscription-based model is $10 per user."
  • "The licensing part is one of the problems. Its licensing depends on the number of users, so it sometimes gets expensive."
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    Questions from the Community
    Top Answer:Forward engineering, DDL generation, reverse engineering, and reporting are the most valuable features of the solution.
    Top Answer:The solution's model mark could be better because it crashes sometimes.
    Top Answer:The solution's technical support is of good quality since they offer fast and seamless services.
    Top Answer:I’m not sure of the exact pricing. However, I would describe their costs as mid-tier.
    Top Answer:The look and feel, along with the ease of use of the solution's web modeling version, is an area with certain shortcomings. The web modeling part can be a bit complex or difficult for new users of the… more »
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    erwin DM
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    Overview

    erwin pioneered data modeling, and erwin Data Modeler (erwin DM) remains trusted, award-winning software for data modeling and database design, automating complex and time-consuming tasks. Use it to discover and document any data from anywhere for consistency, clarity and artifact reuse across large-scale data integration, master data management, metadata management, Big Data, business intelligence and analytics initiatives – all while supporting data governance and intelligence efforts.

    The iGrafx Process360 Live Platform is a comprehensive software platform tailored for organizations undergoing digital transformation. Its core functionalities include process mining, process design, simulation, predictive analytics, and AI-based automation. By leveraging these tools, businesses can gain valuable insights into their processes, streamline design and optimization efforts, and harness automation for enhanced efficiency. Whether analyzing existing processes, visually modeling workflows, simulating potential changes, or employing predictive analytics, Process360 Live facilitates a seamless journey towards process intelligence and management, pivotal for modern businesses aiming for operational excellence.

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     Premera, America Honda Motors, Aetna, Kaiser Permanente, Dental Dental Cali, Cigna, Staples
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    Top Industries
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    Financial Services Firm28%
    Insurance Company21%
    Government14%
    Energy/Utilities Company7%
    VISITORS READING REVIEWS
    Financial Services Firm19%
    Government10%
    Computer Software Company9%
    Manufacturing Company7%
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    Consumer Goods Company30%
    Comms Service Provider20%
    Pharma/Biotech Company10%
    Government10%
    VISITORS READING REVIEWS
    Financial Services Firm25%
    Computer Software Company9%
    Government7%
    Manufacturing Company7%
    Company Size
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    Small Business33%
    Midsize Enterprise7%
    Large Enterprise60%
    VISITORS READING REVIEWS
    Small Business16%
    Midsize Enterprise10%
    Large Enterprise74%
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    Small Business29%
    Midsize Enterprise29%
    Large Enterprise41%
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    Small Business17%
    Midsize Enterprise8%
    Large Enterprise74%
    Buyer's Guide
    erwin Data Modeler by Quest vs. iGrafx Process360 Live Platform
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    erwin Data Modeler by Quest is ranked 9th in Business Process Design with 37 reviews while iGrafx Process360 Live Platform is ranked 15th in Business Process Design with 15 reviews. erwin Data Modeler by Quest is rated 8.6, while iGrafx Process360 Live Platform is rated 8.4. The top reviewer of erwin Data Modeler by Quest writes "The product lets users import different types of models, but it is expensive, and the interface must be improved". On the other hand, the top reviewer of iGrafx Process360 Live Platform writes " A reasonably stable BPM solution useful for process governance and process mining". erwin Data Modeler by Quest is most compared with SAP PowerDesigner, IDERA ER/Studio, Visio, Lucidchart and Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect, whereas iGrafx Process360 Live Platform is most compared with Visio, ARIS BPA, SAP Signavio Process Manager, Camunda and Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect. See our erwin Data Modeler by Quest vs. iGrafx Process360 Live Platform report.

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