Works at a computer software company with 51-200 employees
User
2017-08-15T06:39:41Z
Aug 15, 2017
We have been using ELMA BPM (www.elma-bpm.com), and it also does not require programming to model and execute processes. Yes, for complicated custom features you will need additional scripts but that isn't generally a problem.
Plus, there are KPI management options as well as CRM and ECM modules included, all working well with processes. Project Management is available too although I wouldn't recommend ELMA if your main focus is indeed project management, it rather helps with smaller and similar projects.
BPM Consultant at a consultancy with 51-200 employees
Consultant
2014-08-04T07:45:50Z
Aug 4, 2014
Appian, Open Text and Oracle are good BPMs, but they require significant participation from specialists for their implementation, and more importantly for their continuous improvement, which makes them costly.
On the other hand, other BPMs such as Bizagi claim to not need any programming to design, implement and run the processes, but this is generally only the case with very simple processes or when the automations are minimal.
For a BPMS to be able to create complex processes without requiring programming, it must internally contain the options that allow the same possibilities as the programming.
Every BPMS in the market offers help tools (which are increasingly more powerful) to make the modeling easier, but it is very difficult that they are capable of completely substituting the programming.
From my experience, AuraPortal is the only BPM solution that requires absolutely no programming.
It must be taken into account that selecting the right BPM solution greatly depends on the project at hand, and that the comparatives are always subjective, but here is a report about the most well known BPMs in the market where AuraPortal has been ranked in the top position:
Hi Pratyush, fyi: www.bizagi.com In 2007 I've modeled new loan processes for a online bank with this tool. I've worked together with the CEO of bizagi, Gustavo Gomez!
You're welcome
Kurt
Our only experience is with Appian, for which we are a Value Added Service Provider, and with a smaller, Google Docs-based workflow engine called KiSSFLOW. If you're considering the former then the latter won't meet your needs, so let's focus on Appian.
We became involved with Appian because of how impressed we were with its BPM Suite in terms of its portability, functionality and easy-to-learn customization capabilities. Basically, it can do what you need it to do, it is available where you and your users need it to be and setting up workflows is a snap.
IT Leader at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Consultant
2014-07-29T11:31:56Z
Jul 29, 2014
Thanks Kurt. I have never heard Bizagi. I would appreciate of you can put your Bizagi experience in your response. Maybe that may turn out to be better proposition for us...
We have been using ELMA BPM (www.elma-bpm.com), and it also does not require programming to model and execute processes. Yes, for complicated custom features you will need additional scripts but that isn't generally a problem.
Plus, there are KPI management options as well as CRM and ECM modules included, all working well with processes. Project Management is available too although I wouldn't recommend ELMA if your main focus is indeed project management, it rather helps with smaller and similar projects.
Appian, Open Text and Oracle are good BPMs, but they require significant participation from specialists for their implementation, and more importantly for their continuous improvement, which makes them costly.
On the other hand, other BPMs such as Bizagi claim to not need any programming to design, implement and run the processes, but this is generally only the case with very simple processes or when the automations are minimal.
For a BPMS to be able to create complex processes without requiring programming, it must internally contain the options that allow the same possibilities as the programming.
Every BPMS in the market offers help tools (which are increasingly more powerful) to make the modeling easier, but it is very difficult that they are capable of completely substituting the programming.
From my experience, AuraPortal is the only BPM solution that requires absolutely no programming.
It must be taken into account that selecting the right BPM solution greatly depends on the project at hand, and that the comparatives are always subjective, but here is a report about the most well known BPMs in the market where AuraPortal has been ranked in the top position:
www.auraportal.com
Thanks Andy..your inputs are helpful...
Many Thanks
Pratyush
Hi Pratyush,
I don't know about pricing relative to competitors. Sorry.
Re: ECM, yes, definitely.. Check out this link: www.appian.com
Best regards,
Andy
Thanks Andy. Would you have an idea as to how Appian priced compared to other BPM suit? Does it also offer Enterprise content management capabilities?
Many Thanks
Pratysuh
Hi Pratyush, fyi: www.bizagi.com
In 2007 I've modeled new loan processes for a online bank with this tool. I've worked together with the CEO of bizagi, Gustavo Gomez!
You're welcome
Kurt
Our only experience is with Appian, for which we are a Value Added Service Provider, and with a smaller, Google Docs-based workflow engine called KiSSFLOW. If you're considering the former then the latter won't meet your needs, so let's focus on Appian.
We became involved with Appian because of how impressed we were with its BPM Suite in terms of its portability, functionality and easy-to-learn customization capabilities. Basically, it can do what you need it to do, it is available where you and your users need it to be and setting up workflows is a snap.
Let me know if we can help you.
Thanks Kurt. I have never heard Bizagi. I would appreciate of you can put your Bizagi experience in your response. Maybe that may turn out to be better proposition for us...
Many Thanks
Pratyush
Hi, I'm sorry but I don't have any experience with Apian, Open Text and Oracle BPM Solutions. Only with Bizagi! I hope You will get better answers