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Question: Comparing Automic Workload Automation, Automic/Appworx Applications Manager, and OpCon
Answer: @PhilippeLLORET, All worked out fine in the end. We had demos for all three products, and it was decided that Automic Workload Manager was the best option for our needs. The vendor is now able to provide some support for the Automic Workload Automation product.
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Pros
"Reliability is always important, and the reliability of the system is outstanding.""The whole product is valuable to us because of the integrations that it has with the MCP and the Windows environments. You have to have the agent on each one of them that you want to monitor. The integrations that we have created are along the lines of extracting files and sending them through SFTP to another vendor. Those are the things that were taking a lot of time away from my staff.""Having the jobs laid out while attaching dependencies is a nice addition to the program.""MAS is by far the best feature, although not a feature of the software specifically. MAS has more knowledge than our employees, so we have been able to develop schedules that are far beyond our own skillset.""It makes everything simpler. Once OpCon is in, it just repeats itself day after day. We don't have to worry about whether a process will be missed. It will run every single time. We are not dropping jobs or missing stuff. When you have multiple institutions, it's very easy to miss jobs. You get on a roll, start doing things, and then forget somebody. With OpCon, everything is done.""With a simple click of a button in self-service, the department or the user can complete his/her job.""There are a lot of valuable features. The version that we're currently casting, Self Service, is going to be the most valuable to us. It is going to allow us to open up the doors, broaden our automation capability and help other business units to be able to automate a lot of the little things that they do from day to day. I'm really looking forward to being able to help other areas with their automation needs. Self Service is really key.""The biggest example in which OpCon has improved my organization is that we have to download and process files from the federal reserve several times a day. If we don't do it in a certain timeframe, we can be penalized. It's the fact that we can download these files, process them, get our accounting teams the information they need to work the exceptions that is one of the most important roles."

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"The interface is good.""Scheduling is a good feature."

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"The most valuable features are its robustness, it's highly scalable, and it's easy to implement.""The monitoring and troubleshooting features are rich and with the dashboards and other features, automation work is made easier.""It has its own object-oriented scripting language and you can reload your object in many different places.""The Zero Upgrade feature is the most valuable.""Both the stability and the scalability of Automic Workload Automation are great.""The feature that I have found most valuable is that we can control between a lot of operating systems and other products because we have a lot of old and new products in our environment. It helps us to control all of them together.""It integrates well with the CICD pipeline."

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Cons
"There is a learning curve. We had to go to class, learn, and take their training classes, then come back. We got assistance from OpCon as well to convert our processes on the Unisys machine over to the IBM. Now, when we add new products, it's pretty straightforward to write a new process and schedule it, then run it at a set time of day.""Stability is an area for improvement. There are FTP agents that run on the MCP and they are there so that we can transfer a file from the MCP to the Windows environment or vice versa. Sometimes, and nobody has been able to figure out why, it just goes down, and all of my jobs that need it are hanging or failing... It would be very helpful if they could figure out what in the world is happening with that FTP client that's on the MCP.""We sometimes have a large number of jobs on the SQL Server and we can experience a very light lag in job starts. The lag can be a few seconds. It's never more than one minute, but sometimes we can experience some lags.""It would be great if you could create physically separate "clients," as I call them. I wish I could have a production client and a testing client and that they would be separate.""Of course they have a RESTful API within OpCon, but they have that new web services agent that we installed because we have some SOAP APIs and we had to interact with SMA to get things running. Our developers did do some tweaks, but we have now been able to get some test jobs running, and understand how the workflow goes back and forth.""The initial setup is very complex, but that's not necessarily something that needs to be improved. I'm told that in the next version they're improving the upgrade process. So that's in the works already.""There is room for improvement needed around setting up the calendars and frequencies. I would like more flexibility in what jobs run. Sometimes, with frequencies, I can't find what I want to without putting a little more labor into it.""It's not something you can just quickly grab, try, run, and play with. You have to get the knowledge and train yourself. It was easy for me, but I also took the time to throw myself into it. There is a learning curve to a certain extent. You have to learn the rules."

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"Reporting, forecasting and intelligence could be improved.""The compliance features are limited to the server and not the entire infrastructure."

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"There are some monitoring features that could be added.""The vendor support is really bad and should be improved.""In terms of what can be improved, we are in Israel, so we work in Hebrew. Now they are starting to move it also from English to Hebrew and to support the language, but for us it has been very difficult because the Hebrew looks like gibberish. So there are language issues.""We would like a way to test our cloud-based automations on-premises, and then migrate them to the cloud after they have been tested, without needing an additional license.""This solution's out-of-box automation sets could be improved. They could be industry standardized out-of-box, or even runbook automation processes could be useful—just some plug-and-play automation processes out-of-box. It has many integration capabilities, from APIs to databases, but if the customer sees some out-of-box automation processes in it, it could be useful.""Its dashboard can be improved. In version 12, they have already moved to a web-based interface from a UI. We are looking into this feature now. We are also looking for available APIs that we can use to interface the engine into our other systems. There should be a subservice facility that we can use to interface with Microsoft Teams and send out authorization on job executions. We have seen a feature like this in other products that we are looking into.""In most of the packages available, it took time to study and gain knowledge of the features and resources due to poor documentation."

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Pricing and Cost Advice
  • "This solution is slightly more expensive than our previous solution. Right now, we are paying about $40,000 a year. However, we think it's well worth the cost to keep things automated, reducing our staff."
  • "The cost is based on the number of jobs. You pay for what you use. For us, the support cost is between €20,000 and €30,000 per year. It's too expensive."
  • "Cost depends on your environment. We are doing stuff now with failover and recovery, so we have boosted our costs."
  • "Compared to AutoSys and ISE, OpCon was a lot cheaper to put in. AutoSys is hundreds of thousands of dollars to just install it because they don't have an interface into our system. You have to teach them what your system does."
  • "There are different add-ons, like the Self Service or Vision model. It all depends on what agents you have in your environment. We have a mainframe and Windows, and while I think SQL is free, SAP or anything beyond that has different connectors that might need a license."
  • "SMA is big on free training. They do monthly training down at their headquarter office. As long as you own the product, the only thing you pay for is your employees' travel expenses. The training is free. They are willing to train people and give them the knowledge. That way, you are equipped to do what you need to do."
  • "The pricing is very reasonable."
  • "OpCon cost us $80,000 in 2017 money, and that included everything: support, installation, onsite assistance during the conversion, etc. It's been a worthwhile investment by far."
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  • "It costs too much. That's why we are now looking at other products."
  • "There are no costs in addition to the standard licensing fees."
  • "There are different licensing fees for cases where high availability is important."
  • "They have changed the pricing on their licensing, and it's cheaper than before."
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    Answers from the Community
    Rick Murray
    author avatarPhilippeLLORET
    Real User

    Hello Rick, I couldn't help you with the Appwork applications manager. 


    On the other hand, one thing that is certain that
    we are satisfied to have migrated all our jobs processing under OpCon (120 000
    jobs/days) since 2018. 


    We have improved in terms
    of service quality, we have made progress in the automation of our business
    process and we benefit from more functionalities and reduces operating costs.


    OpCon is a true
    Enterprise Scheduler.


    I hope this will help you in your
    research.

    author avatarRick Murray
    User

    Ian,

    It isn't that AWA wont work. It comes down to support from another vendor. The vendor isn't currently familiar with AWA, so they are taking classes, and will be able to support it in the future

    author avatarIanKnight
    User

    We are about to start to use AWA and was wondering why that platform will not work for you going forward?

    author avatarAlbert Jurisic
    Real User

    I am sorry because cannot help you. We have no experience with Appworx Application Manager.

    Questions from the Community
    Top Answer: 
    The most valuable feature is the automation in general.
    Top Answer: 
    The licensing and pricing model changed this last year, so we're getting used to that. I think it's ultimately going to… more »
    Top Answer: 
    I'm sure there's plenty that could be improved, but some of the biggest pain points aren't necessarily a fault of OpCon… more »
    Top Answer: 
    @PhilippeLLORET, All worked out fine in the end. We had demos for all three products, and it was decided that… more »
    Top Answer: 
    The most valuable features are its robustness, it's highly scalable, and it's easy to implement.
    Top Answer: 
    They have changed the pricing on their licensing, and it's cheaper than before.
    Top Answer: 
    This solution's out-of-box automation sets could be improved. They could be industry standardized out-of-box, or even… more »
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    Overview

    OpCon is a robust and flexible platform capable of scaling up to meet the needs of clients running 140,000+ daily jobs across multiple environments and operating systems. Our proven migration framework helps clients painlessly transition from outdated or cost inefficient platforms thanks to our deep organizational expertise, REST API, and extensive library of legacy connectors. We have a variety of consulting options available for clients and offer no-cost training for the life of the contract.

    AppWorx Workload Automation automates your Ellucian’s Banner or Fiserv DNA processing. This innovative, best-in-class task scheduling solution accelerates your processing, provides visibility and control over business processes, and mitigates risk in both environments.

    AppWorx Workload Automation Can:

    • Automate banner processes without writing scripts
    • Automate testing
    • Document process flows and procedures
    • Maintain a history and audit trail of production runs
    • Automate migration from development to test to production environments
    • Reduce training
    • Eliminate human errors associated with manual tasks

    Benefits of AppWorx Workload Automation For Your Ellucian’s Banner

    • Automate recurring business processes, such as administration and record-keeping, while complying with state and federal reporting requirements.
    • Batch jobs are processed accurately.
    • If there are any inconsistencies or job failures, Automic for Banner immediately sends email notifications to the appropriate personnel.
    • Significantly improve your return on investment.
    • Automating batch processing and report generation.
    • Eliminating server overload by using a combination of features (AppWorx provides queues to control the number of jobs that can be submitted to a server at any given time, can spot duplicate runs of the same reports, and can delay impromptu reports submitted by individuals until all regularly scheduled reports are processed, etc.).
    • Eliminates the need for developers to write shell, PERL, or batch scripts to automate scheduling.
    • Automatically keeps a history of every job run, the parameters that were used, and the output generated at each step. These records are readily available for viewing online and can be printed for reference.
    • Export and import utilities make migration an error-free, repeatable process. Database logins, printers, and libraries can be mapped when you are moving process flows to a new environment. Mapping eliminates potentially erroneous code changes.

    Benefits of AppWorx Workload Automation For Your Fiserv DNA Processing

    • Run DNA jobs directly, eliminating the need to copy and release queues for each batch cycle.
    • Automatically run DNA jobs at the optimum time using sophisticated scheduling.
    • Run multiple DNA jobs at the same time in parallel from one batch station.
    • Eliminate potential data entry errors by automatically retrieving parameters from your enterprise databases.
    • Automatically check the results from one step to ensure data integrity before continuing to the next step.
    • Alert production analysts to problems the instant they occur.
    • Coordinate processing steps across all software applications.
    • Automatically distribute output files to vendors.
    • Perform all operations from one GUI client.

    Reviews from Real Users

    “The most valuable feature for me is the scheduling,” says an enterprise application architect at a retailer who has been using the solution for close to 10 years.

    A manager at a tech services company adds that “The interface is good. The compliance-related features are very good.”


    Deliver the fully agile enterprise using CA Automic Workload Automation 

    The modern enterprise needs to orchestrate a complex, diverse landscape of applications, platforms and technologies. Workload automation can prove a critical differentiator, but only if it provides intelligent automation driven by data analytics.

    The IT landscape is currently more complex than ever: Islands of automation are a barrier to scaling and standardizing your workload activities. Processing errors are common because of manual handoffs. And the lack of an end-to-end view of the business process make inefficiencies and problems difficult to resolve. In addition to this, you are operating 24x7 and cannot find maintenance windows to upgrade your infrastructure in order to innovate. 

    CA Automic Workload Automation gives you the agility, speed, visibility and scalability needed to respond to the constantly changing technology landscape. It centrally manages and automates the execution of business processes end-to-end; across mainframe, cloud and hybrid environments in a way that never stops—even when doing an upgrade to the next version.

    Offer
    Accel­er­ate dig­i­tal trans­for­ma­tion through work­load automation

    Automate repetitive tasks so you can focus on projects that drive your business forward. Find out how OpCon workload automation enables you to create repeatable, reliable workflows - all managed from a single platform.

    Learn more about AppWorx Workload Automation
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    LOHR, Carnival Cruise Lines, Herbalife, Digital Federal Credit Union, Synergent, Frandsen Bank & Trust
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    Financial Services Firm78%
    Insurance Company8%
    Government4%
    Manufacturing Company2%
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    Financial Services Firm18%
    Insurance Company10%
    Comms Service Provider9%
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    Computer Software Company23%
    Comms Service Provider15%
    Financial Services Firm8%
    University7%
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    Manufacturing Company15%
    Insurance Company10%
    Retailer8%
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    Computer Software Company33%
    Financial Services Firm12%
    Comms Service Provider12%
    Insurance Company5%
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    Midsize Enterprise43%
    Large Enterprise31%
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    Midsize Enterprise18%
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    Large Enterprise65%
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    AppWorx Workload Automation is ranked 15th in Workload Automation with 2 reviews while Automic Workload Automation is ranked 6th in Workload Automation with 7 reviews. AppWorx Workload Automation is rated 7.0, while Automic Workload Automation is rated 8.2. The top reviewer of AppWorx Workload Automation writes "Good scheduling feature; reporting, forecasting, and intelligence could all be improved". On the other hand, the top reviewer of Automic Workload Automation writes "Provides good control between different systems and processes". AppWorx Workload Automation is most compared with Control-M, AutoSys Workload Automation, Stonebranch Universal Automation Center, Tidal Automation and ActiveBatch Workload Automation, whereas Automic Workload Automation is most compared with Control-M, AutoSys Workload Automation, Red Hat Ansible Automation Platform, ActiveBatch Workload Automation and ASG-Zena. See our AppWorx Workload Automation vs. Automic Workload Automation report.

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