2020-02-16T08:27:00Z
Miriam Tover - PeerSpot reviewer
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What advice do you have for others considering TIBCO EBX?

If you were talking to someone whose organization is considering TIBCO EBX, what would you say?

How would you rate it and why? Any other tips or advice?

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MS
Technical Leader at Servier
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2022-10-21T15:27:20Z
Oct 21, 2022

I rate TIBCO EBX an eight out of ten. We have four administrators that maintain the solution.

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Davide Conti - PeerSpot reviewer
CEO at daconti
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2022-03-24T16:20:25Z
Mar 24, 2022

I would advise others that are wanting to implement TIBCO EBX they should try to build the data model from the beginning until the end. Take the time that they need, try to build as much as possible in the data model. It is best to build the workflow that they want at the beginning. They have to decide if they want history or data governance, or exactly which other part they want. It is important to build what they have and want on paper regarding the functionality of their core system before implementing it into TIBCO EBX. I rate TIBCO EBX a ten out of ten.

NM
Sr Technical Architect at a computer software company with 10,001+ employees
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2021-10-22T14:29:22Z
Oct 22, 2021

We're a customer and an end-user. Currently, we are one version behind. We're going to upgrade to the latest version maybe in two months, however, I'm not sure of the exact date. I'd advise new users to ensure they understand the scope of their implementation and applicability in their observation. I'd rate the solution at a seven out of ten.

SD
Data Architect at a pharma/biotech company with 10,001+ employees
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2021-07-24T16:25:44Z
Jul 24, 2021

We're just customers and end-users. Whether I would advise another company to choose this solution or not depends a bit on the use case they are going to develop. I would say that, if a company has a basic use case, a basic means of getting data from a few sources like Oracle, SQL Server, Teradata etc., then maybe it is sufficient. However, if you are having an enterprise-level situation for SAP or Oracle Apps , it might scale up that well. Performance is also an issue as it does not optimize the underlying clusters to a great extent as compared of its competitors. One good thing is that, with the data model, you can just go and see the data model very well, to the most granular level and identify if there are any gaps. It also has a rich compare data model feature. However, again, for the workflow, you cannot edit it in the visual editor. You have to go back to that tree setup and there after complete editing during compile only one would be able to see if any errors has crept in or not. Having said that I would say the Workflows once created are very robust. There are some competing tools that allow the editing of workflows in the visual setup itself. That is very easy for users. If you can edit it in the visual setup, you can directly see the impacted upstream and downstream tasks or jobs in that workflow and conflicts if any. This speeds up the updating of the workflows by the data engineers or data stewards. I'd rate the solution at a six out of ten. The solution is average from an enterprise standpoint.

AH
Lead Data Modeler - Enterprise Data Strategies and Services at a financial services firm with 10,001+ employees
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2021-04-01T09:39:00Z
Apr 1, 2021

We aren't using the latest version of the solution. We're a few minor versions behind. There are some questions coming up, of what our direction is going organizationally. There are some new directions that may include moving to the cloud from on-premises. That could have an impact. There's also an appetite for high availability and scalability and all of that as we are a very large organization. On the other hand, some of the competition that is using the same tool, are some of the really big banks and such. There are other organizations, other financial institutions that use it. Their typical complaints are concern over scalability but they're using it, so it's not so surmountable. The advice I give to others is if it's the first time you're doing data governance, you're not just implementing what you're doing manually today. You want to improve the process. There has to be some practice and awareness of the process design and the rules about governance. I'd rate the solution at an eight out of ten.

AK
Head of Architecture at a insurance company with 5,001-10,000 employees
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2020-02-16T08:27:00Z
Feb 16, 2020

I would advise interested people that you need to understand what it is used for, what the use cases are. It takes money and effort, but it could be very good for you. On a scale of one to ten I would rate TIBCO MDM a nine.

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Miriam Tover - PeerSpot reviewer
Service Delivery Manager at PeerSpot (formerly IT Central Station)
Oct 21, 2022
Hi, We all know it's really hard to get good pricing and cost information. Please share what you can so you can help your peers.
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AH
Lead Data Modeler - Enterprise Data Strategies and Services at a financial services firm with 10,001+ employees
Apr 1, 2021
While my understanding is that the solution is on the less expensive side, I can't describe the actual costs. We do pay an extra fee that covers upgrades and support. While that may have been included in the original cost, it may have to be renewed every year.
SD
Data Architect at a pharma/biotech company with 10,001+ employees
Jul 24, 2021
This is one area where I think EBX scores well. There licensing is quite straight forward.
Miriam Tover - PeerSpot reviewer
Service Delivery Manager at PeerSpot (formerly IT Central Station)
Oct 21, 2022
Please share with the community what you think needs improvement with TIBCO EBX. What are its weaknesses? What would you like to see changed in a future version?
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AH
Lead Data Modeler - Enterprise Data Strategies and Services at a financial services firm with 10,001+ employees
Apr 1, 2021
It's a pretty steep learning curve, I find. And not really fluid and flexible. There is some graphical rendering of the workflows, however, you can't really develop them in terms of the graphical picture. Whereas a lot of BPM-type tools will give you that kind of capability. The workflows need improvement. You need to develop, kind of conceptually, what you want. It's basically a web app generator, so there's a lot of magic under the covers. When you're trying to promote the changes through a version control system, it's hard to know what to expect as far as all the content. For example, if we were building and writing Java code, we would know what's changing. However, due to the fact that we're just putting in models and embedding some business logic in the models and such, it generates a web app, a job of whatever. It generates XML and some other stuff. And that's XSD. Then when you go and say, "Okay, let's push these changes," in Git or in Eclipse, et cetera, it's tricky to have a multi-developer environment where you're not stepping on each other a little bit. You're not as aware of the repercussions of your design changes. The documentation needs improvement. It would be helpful to have more during implementation, for example. It would help make the initial setup more straightforward. In a workflow, you can't set default values for certain columns, which would be nice. If you're handy with Java, you can create your own services and such and do something there, however, it should be out-of-the-box functionality. If you have a generic system, you should be able to say, "Hey, this structure supports A, B or C." Yet, if you launch it, if department A launches it, assume that certain values are set to their preferences. As department D launches assume that the department is B and you know, certain values are set, et cetera. Otherwise, everybody comes in generically, and then they have to know more than they want to know. There's this thing called replication. You could replicate the XML database to SQL Server on Oracle. That replication doesn't happen if you use certain features of the product. For example, with one of these features, you can do calculations or calculated fields. You could say it's X, then do a sum, et cetera. If you have a calculated field, you're not allowed to replicate it. It would be better if they could allow the replication, even if maybe they have to limit the functionality to those columns. There's an item called inheritance. You could say, I don't want to, if I asked for your name, I don't want to ask for your name three more times. So when I get to another file on the table, it's already there. It will carry information by inheritance, so you're not going to enter it wrong three different ways, however, once you have inheritance, you can't replicate. It would be better to ignore the inherited fields, just nix those columns, yet allow the table to replicate. Then you can have an SQL server go in and read the data in a relational way, which is very helpful to make it acceptable to developers and business analysts, et cetera.
SD
Data Architect at a pharma/biotech company with 10,001+ employees
Jul 24, 2021
We are currently using TIBCO EBX, however, we are not very happy with the performance of that tool. The product does not scale well horizontally particularly in the cloud. We find the scalability to be quite inferior to other options. The product has some compatibility issues with Azure SQL also. We heard that it works best with PostgreSQL which is not an ideal Cloud Database as it has scalability issues. The business team is not very happy with the product's UI/UX. It could be a lot more clear. Right now, they struggle, for example, with creating certain views from the UI. A lot of irrelevant questions are asked during the view creation which actually confuses a Non Technical user. Also, simple things like copy, paste, bulk copy, and bulk paste features are not available(one has to insert separators manually between the different data elements manually). The multi-index search feature is either not there or not very useful. These are some other problems which the business users have mentioned, as they don't have the technical knowhow to manage these tasks. If they directly want to change a particular set of data within EBX, they cannot do it directly as direct editing in EBX is not available - it may be for a good reason, but the tool still should allow this with the check and balances in place. This involves a Data Engineer in between which slows down the process a bit . The hierarchy, in terms of downward or upward drilling, is not great as the links are not well preserved. Sometimes when you are searching multiple tables, child tables or linked tables in a particular Dataset, there is a possibility that you might get lost and struggle to go back to some upstream table. The bread crump needs further improvement. The learning curve is pretty steep, as you need to learn a lot of things in Java and do some coding to implement certain customizations. Some other modules have also been removed in future version. For example, Information Governance, which we were using , will no longer be available in Version 6 is what we heard. Without that, the integration of Data Governance Rules with the transformations might be impacted.
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