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2020-04-13T12:15:00Z
Menachem D Pritzker - PeerSpot reviewer
Sr. Director of Growth at PeerSpot (formerly IT Central Station)
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Is all flash storage SSD?

Are all types of SSD flash, and vice versa? What's the difference?

Thanks! I appreciate the help. 

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Mir Gulzar Ahmed - PeerSpot reviewer
Manager IT at Synergy Computers
Real User
Top 5Leaderboard
2020-12-29T12:02:39Z
29 December 20

Flash drives may be made of SSDs/Solid state drives but All SSDs may not be Flash.


SSDs:


Solid State Drives


No seek time=Higher permanence than SAS/SATA


Not Fragile as SAS or SATA


Also offered in servers and some of storage systems as:


Read Optimized


Write Optimized


Mix Workload


Enterprise All-Flash Storage systems comes in two categories with reference to Disk types.


1). SSDs


2). NVMe


Within storage systems:


SSDs are being used for High to Extreme performance and are less expensive than NVMe.To get extreme permanence; you need to add more SSDs or bigger storage controllers.As a trade-off; bigger foot-print than NVMe.


NVMe are being used where you need Extreme performance with very small footprint but are very expensive than SSDs.


NVMe is an example of a flash drive which may have multiple SSDs/chips within one unit; it also come with dedicated Extreme performance controller build-in.


NVMe also comes as PCIE card type and as of 2.5" disk size.

JG
Solutions Architect at fungible
Consultant
2020-05-01T16:42:21Z
01 May 20

• Flash
o == NAND
o == Flash Memory chip
o ==NVM
o == SLC + MLC + TLC
o == small pieces of chip made for other storage manufacture use, not ready for end user;

• SSD
o == (a few NAND chips + Interface)
o == (SATA SSD + SAS SSD + NVMe SSD + M.2 SSD)
o == 4 or 8 flash memory chips manufactured (welded together on PCB board) to become a Hard Drive, named Solid State Drive, ready for end user use, or for other storage manufacture use.

• All flash storage array
o == (lots of SSD + array Controller + SAN + LUN Masking + Dedupe + GUI + replication + Snapshot...)
o == put all type of SSD or other type of raw Flash together, with a provision interface, to become a storage array, ready for end user.

Chetan Woodun - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Consultant at a tech services company with 11-50 employees
Real User
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2020-04-23T16:19:09Z
23 April 20

I have seen a number of replies. Just clarifying.
There are 3 storage Tiers with NVMe, SSD and SAS /NL
SSD is a disk that doesn't have moving parts like SAS and NL
Now, Flash is the implementation of SSD. SSDs are made mostly of flash memory

KS
Sr. Platform Solutions Specialist at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees
MSP
2020-04-14T14:57:44Z
14 April 20

I believe all-flash means the storage box with the provision of Flash media type only, it may be SSDs it may be either flash media like IBM's Flash Core modules. The All-Flash hardware will only support SSDs, Flash Drives or IBM's Flash core modules. But if it is Hybrid Storage then it is capable of accommodating other media types like NLSAS, SAS drives along with SSDs.

AN
AGT Infrastructure Operations at a financial services firm with 10,001+ employees
Real User
2020-04-16T18:34:31Z
16 April 20

Flash drives are a type of SSD (Solid-State Drives). There are lot more new technologies of Solid State Drives

MK
Co-Founder at a tech services company with 51-200 employees
User
2020-04-15T07:22:45Z
15 April 20

Flash or All Flash?
As we all know, all mainstream SSD drives are now produced with Flash technology. The subject that comes to my mind when I say All Flash; All Flash disks have their own processors and can do things like deduplication, data analysis and do not load the main processor without going to the main processor. When I examine IBM's technology in this regard, it is more successful than others.

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SG
Presales Engineer at a computer software company with 5,001-10,000 employees
Real User
2020-04-15T07:06:33Z
15 April 20

An SSD is a Solid State Drive. In a solid-state drive, you find no more engine and head to write the data on a platter. You use flash memory technology to write data. Flash memory (Fash NAND create by Toshiba in the 1980's) is like an EEPROM that stores data and keeps it without needing to be electrically powered. Flash memory is composed of cells based on a MOS transistor.

You can find 3 types of Flash Memory (SLC Single-level cell one information store, MLC Multi-level Cell 2 information store, TLC triple-level cell 3 information store).

Then you can find different kind communication interfaces to the SSD: SATA, SAS, NVMe, M.2 So at the moment the majority of SSD used Flash memory technology. Intel and Micron developed a new technology in 2015 3D Xpoint 1000 times faster than Flash Nand

Ricky Santos - PeerSpot reviewer
System Administrator at ON Semiconductor Phils. Inc.
Real User
Top 10
2020-04-15T04:58:35Z
15 April 20

Yes, All flash storage can only supports SSDs and as we all know SSD is a flash drive type of storage device.

ES
CEO with 11-50 employees
User
2020-04-15T02:01:40Z
15 April 20

Basically, yes. SSD stands for Solid State Disk (or Device) and Flash memory makes up 99%+ of SSDs in the market today. Some newer technologies such as 3-D Xpoint memory (e.g. Intel Optane) are used for some SSDs, but they are still cost prohibitive for consumers for the most part.

Georgeadis De Jesús Arias Palacios - PeerSpot reviewer
Jefe de Infraestructura at a tech services company
Real User
2020-04-15T01:36:28Z
15 April 20

The main difference of SSDs from conventional disks is that the seedling is much greater. in addition to that deduplicity and the major compress.

Real User
2020-04-14T21:17:57Z
14 April 20

My 2 cents..
All SSD drives that you get these days are flash based. SSD is a drive without moving parts (actuator, spindle, arm swing, magnetic platter) and flash is the technology that enables data to be written to it.

William Kosinetz - PeerSpot reviewer
CIO with 501-1,000 employees
Real User
Leaderboard
2020-04-14T20:58:15Z
14 April 20

Solid State Disk is the kind of technology. Like all memory chips used to create a disk with no spinning platters or articulating moving head parts. Then there are different kinds of memory chips used to create a disk. Then there are different modes of accessing the memory cells in the disk. The difference in flash drive storage is the combination of the chips and accessing the cells in the chips that set apart the manufacturing companies on the market. This technology has benefit of interest on all data which it creates over time.

SImoneGebellato - PeerSpot reviewer
Group IT Architect & Network Engineer at a engineering company with 11-50 employees
Real User
2020-04-14T17:10:49Z
14 April 20

SSD used a flash way to write data. SSD has no volatile data as they're written in a flash memory like RAM, but RAM clear data during reboot or stop&start flash technology permit data resiliency.

KA
Team Leader of System Admins with 1,001-5,000 employees
User
2020-04-14T16:16:49Z
14 April 20

SSD stands for Solid State Disk, and it means storage that doesn’t require moving parts. This concept has been around for decades, and originally it was RAM-based, i.e. the storage was similar to today’s regular computer memory
Flash storage is also relatively old technology, but started as a way to permanently store information without power being applied.
you dont need to compare
SSD just means a hard disk that doesn’t move while Flash is a type of memory that is very fast and doesn’t require continuous power (non-volatile) SSDs used to use RAM, but now use Flash instead

AF
Communications Manager at a tech services company with 5,001-10,000 employees
User
2020-04-14T14:38:06Z
14 April 20

The short answer would be yes.

SATA is the dominant interface for connecting an SSD to the PC. It employs the command protocol AHCI (it also supports IDE) which was built with slower spinning disks in mind rather than flash memory.

SATA transfer rates begin at 150 MB/s and max out at 600 MB/s for third-generation technology.

For most consumer uses of SSDs, this is absolutely adequate.

NVME is a protocol that is fast becoming used in the field.

NVMe allows the SSD device to be connected directly to the PCIe lanes of the host computer.

VS
Tech Lead at Complete Enterprise Solutions
Real User
2020-04-14T14:33:47Z
14 April 20

Dell uses very specific and qualified SSDs. The SSDs have to meet a certain standard. The product has various warranties and performance/recovery guarantees.

You can get more info from the Dell EMC website.

User
2020-04-14T14:07:58Z
14 April 20

SSD is a short form of Solid State Drive which is persistent flash memory. There are different types of flash like SLC, TLC, NAND and more that you can ready about anywhere like WikiPedia or just a Google search. There are newer type of storage like NVMe & Optane but I believe they are generally NOT referred to as SSD as they pretty much break the "drive" notion and are used as circuit boards that go directly on to the bus.

All flash is not SSD. For example, flash memory is used in USB/Pen/Thumb drives, SD cards and in several other forms that are not a "drive" that connects to SATA/SAS interfaces.

AM
Master Solutions Consultant at Hitachi Data Systems
Consultant
2020-04-14T12:14:58Z
14 April 20

There is confusion across the terminology for some time. The modern SSD hard drives are flash-based so today there is no much difference between the two. In the past, we used to have RAM-based SSD’s but now all the SSD’s are flash-based.

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