Storemgr67 - PeerSpot reviewer
Storage Manager at a financial services firm with 10,001+ employees
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Which is better: IBM flash 9200 or EMC VMAX8000?

I'm researching flash storage arrays. I'm looking for advice about which of these two options is better - IBM flash 9200 or EMC VMAX8000. 

Any recommendations?

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Chief Commercial Officer (CCO) at BPSOLUTIONS
Mar 18, 2021

I think this will probably depend on what features and functionality you need. FlashSystem 9200 is has much lower latency, small foortprint and has flashcore modules with 2:1 hardware compression (no impact on CPU and overall performance).

VMAX is also a proven platform with high IOPS and massive scalability. No external virtualization possible and higher latency. Does have EMC support which is expensive but high quality.

IBM now has Pure Storage like subscription options and AI driven support with IBM Storage Insights. In addition with HyperSwap functionality you receive a guaranteed uptime of 100% over two sites.

I would prefer FS9200, but specific requirements could make you choose differently. 

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Jin SiangTan - PeerSpot reviewer
Storage Engineer at a financial services firm with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
Jan 12, 2021

PowerMax 800, as it's an AA array (active/active), while FS9200 is (active/passive) ALUA, FS9200 LUN has ownership controller a or b, Powermax enclosure/expansion enclosure is NVME, FS9200 expansion enclosure is SAS.

Sales Manager at ARTINIT s.r.o.
Jan 11, 2021

HI, I would go definitely for PowerMax 8000 series instead of VMAX (old architecture) , for IBM we have little experience (only hear that is expensive)

Product Manager at a tech services company with 1-10 employees
Top 5
Oct 25, 2021

Take a look into Hitachi Vantara - VSP 5xxx series.

Storage & Backup Management | Open System at a financial services firm with 1,001-5,000 employees
Jan 12, 2021

I recommend getting information about Pure Storage FlashArray //X

Sales Manager at ARTINIT s.r.o.
Jan 14, 2021

@reviewer547188 we recently had a case at customer Dell EMC allflash vs Pure Storage, but for us as we are outside of US is PureStorage still questionable start-up with poor presales and support locally, they have a long road to go in my eyes still, even if the technology looks promissing, and they were much more expensive compared to Dell EMC product what surprised me most

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Hmm, this is tough. You wouldn't have enough granularity to get you close to an optimized solution. Your best bet will be to document at least your top 10 requirements for compute and storage, then use that to identify plausible options to explore. So for compute, for example, what kind of processing do you do, will it be just for office work or server workloads; if server workloads, what type of workloads are they, and so on and so forth. For storage, what will be your needs, file or block, high transaction rate, replication requirements, do you need an object, so many questions.  Sorry, I can't be of more help, however, all I am saying is you need refined requirements.
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