2014-06-13T05:01:00Z
it_user128265 - PeerSpot reviewer
QA at a computer software company with 501-1,000 employees
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Does Compuware have a manual testing solution? Which manual testing solutions should we be considering?

We're looking into manual testing solutions, does Compuware have one? How does it compare to other solutions and are there others we should be considering?

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it_user145494 - PeerSpot reviewer
Product Management at Micro Focus
Real User
2014-08-14T08:44:19Z
Aug 14, 2014

Just to confirm question does Compuware have test management tool - answer is no any more. The Manual test tools were sold to Micro Focus in 2009 along with functional & performance automation tools and requirements management. Extract from article - "Compuware has focused its efforts recently on application performance monitoring products. In May 2009, the company sold off its software quality testing tools to Micro Focus to concentrate on application performance and IT portfolio management products." Refer to article http://www.techweb.com/news/217300557
To understand how the tooling has moved forward please review information on www.microfocus.com or www.borland.com

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it_user146058 - PeerSpot reviewer
Test Consultant / Independant at a tech company with 51-200 employees
Consultant
2014-08-10T21:43:42Z
Aug 10, 2014

Based on your question you will need to define your approach by gaining some context of the needs required for your organisation a suggested approach if in the process of selecting a tool; i.e. Perform a POC (Proof of Concept)

1. Define your methodology being used, as all the above tools mentioned would be able to assiste where applicable to your methodology and environment to be used in.

2. If you already have tools you will need to define your requirements as per the tools these are your needs finding requirements, the what the how and why.

3. Budget as per the above tools mentioned may be a factor as the decision to wholly go with one tool to rule them all approach may or may not work (big bang), you may need one or more tools to support your needs as apart of your discovery process for the needs finding exercise.

4. Why have you decided on compuware is there already a version of the platform being utilised in your organisation if so, the requirement for a POC would be irrelevant and you just upgrade and go with what works for your environment needs.

To help you completely in your question we are lacking context of what your needs are in your exclusive environment we can suggest many tools based on your question, but with compuware you need to assess if not already implemented a structured implementation approach to get best results.

it_user145842 - PeerSpot reviewer
Product Manager at Compuware
Vendor
2014-08-08T15:26:00Z
Aug 8, 2014

Compuware does offer testing solutions for Debugging, Fault Analysis, Automated Testing, Code Coverage, Test Data Optimization... but primarily for mainframe applications. Could you give a few details about the environment, that would help.

it_user111150 - PeerSpot reviewer
System Engineer Monitoring and Response at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Consultant
2014-08-07T19:46:28Z
Aug 7, 2014

I hope following points would helpful to you.

1. Compuware has manual testing solution.
2. Compuware’s current offering scores were consistently just below average across manual testing, test automation, and test management.
3. The greatest strength of its test management solution is its built-in support for Compuware’s risk-based testing methodology. But this solution is a disorderly collection of modules for test management, issue management, and requirements management, only some of which have Web interfaces.
4. The solution lacks features that are crucial to large-scale test management efforts, such as support for a wide range of workflows and powerful reporting capabilities.
5. These features are available only through Compuware CARS(Compuware Application Reliability Solution), a combined services and tools offering.
6. Compuware’s test automation tool tries to serve two audiences — technical and nontechnical testers — but does not do enough to meet the needs of either.
7. Fortunately, Compuware’s product strategy includes concrete and much-needed enhancements to its test automation tool and the life-cycle integration of its overall functional testing solution.
8. These enhancements will help Compuware keep pace with the competition, but they won’t move it into a leadership position.

it_user127755 - PeerSpot reviewer
Security Expert at a tech services company
Consultant
2014-08-07T18:51:11Z
Aug 7, 2014

I'm not familiar with this product , however I have used the IBM rational, this questions is rather general as you can see by the answers, it has been my experience when I perform code review for manual dynamic or static analysis I have found IDA Pro to work well with some open source tool sets. neither of which works on automation. the key to this question is what platform are you using? My experience is in web applications, security driven. I hope this helps
Best

it_user145521 - PeerSpot reviewer
User at a tech company with 51-200 employees
Vendor
2014-08-07T16:32:19Z
Aug 7, 2014

Does Compuware have a manual testing solution? YES

Which manual testing solutions should we be considering ?
1) What are you testing : WEB Solutions , Security, ERP solutions , Main Frame, Code , etc...
2) Web based or standalone testing tool : That is webbased accessed from anywhere or LIC based application installed on very machine ; How many Users will be using it ?
3) What is your Budget
4) would you be requiring AUTOMATION testing at some point
4) Would you be requiring Performance or Load / Stress testing at any point ?

There are many solutions out there:
Testing tools fall in either of these categories
1) An application to Manage testing , Manual or automated : TO build test scripts and execute and store results them in one system . EX HP ALM
2) Automated testing : That is an record and play test functionality for automation : SELENIUM, RATIONAL , COMPUWARE
3) Performance and Load testing : This is to understand how application performs under heavy traffic. COMPUWARE, HP , LOAD RUNNER , EMPIRIX

then based on what you are testing and what type of IT SHOP you already exist , that is Mainframes, Windows or UNIX...one can leverage on the Vendor for better licensee cost.

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it_user100344 - PeerSpot reviewer
Sr. Analyst at a retailer with 1,001-5,000 employees
Vendor
2014-08-07T15:49:25Z
Aug 7, 2014

What specifically do you want to manually test?

Vendor
2014-06-23T06:41:00Z
Jun 23, 2014

Hi,

I haven't worked with tools from Compuware, therefore I would like to suggest HP Quality Center as a tool for manual testing.

Four years ago I began using it, and it has been one of the best tools that I ever
used.

There are plenty of tools on the market, but in my opinion the quality comes from the tester itself.

Best Regards,
Sanja Peternel

it_user134010 - PeerSpot reviewer
User at TRICENTIS GmbH
Real User
2014-06-20T07:55:34Z
Jun 20, 2014

You should consider the following questions:

What do you want to test? GUI or non-GUI? Are we talking about functional test?
Do you plan on automating parts of it later on?
Are you planning on mixing the execution of automated and manual tests?
And these question are the simple ones.
What are your budgets? people, time and money.
Do you have access to technical or business personal?

I would then choose Tosca Testsuite, Selenium or QC - or even a mix. These are three different tools, which will meet different requirements. If you have more detailed requirements let us know.

it_user129477 - PeerSpot reviewer
Performance Tester/QA at Tata Consultancy Services
Real User
2014-06-18T20:35:35Z
Jun 18, 2014

For manual testing, I would suggest QC which is most widely used. It can
also be merged with other HP tools. LR and UFT. But its costly. Another tool that is quite in use is IBM rational Manual tester. This tool is also quite good.

Don't have much idea on the manual testing part.

it_user19185 - PeerSpot reviewer
V.P. - Pre-Production Performance Architect at a financial services firm with 10,001+ employees
Real User
2014-06-18T14:08:30Z
Jun 18, 2014

IF you mean tools to automate your current manual regression testing, there are many. Compuware is one of many. If you are talking about a vendor that does testing either as a service or brought in there are also many.
I can advise once you respond to the above

Brian D. Lynch

it_user121011 - PeerSpot reviewer
Engineer at Oracle
Real User
2014-06-18T13:33:35Z
Jun 18, 2014

Which application are you trying to automate or trying to find out a manual testing solution for? Compuware looks like it has Mainframe testing solution. As far as Functional Regression Testing (FRT) is concerned, there are wide range of products available in the market for the automation needs. People will choose them depending on the following priority...1)How good the tool identifies our Application Under Test, its frequency of testing and Maintenance.(2) What is our Money Budget,(3) What is our Time Budge,(4) How will be the Support from the Vendor,(5).Availability of Resource pool and training.

If we take points (1),(3),(4) and (5) mentioned above, tools people will be going for is HP Products QTP for FRT and LoadRunner for LoadTest but now a good tool nearly comparable to these products is in market, is OATS with the only drawback of, (4), But its not difficult to overcome that.

If we Look into point (1),(2),(3) people tend to select Selenium, RFT.

For me the Best Tool now in the market to go to for web application testing are QTP, OATS and Selenium.

Please post you requirements so that a more lucid and informative conclusions can be made.

If you are really searching for some Mainframe testing Stuff (Inferred form ur ref to Compuware) this is an inappropriate answer.

it_user114912 - PeerSpot reviewer
Chief Revenue Officer at a tech vendor
Vendor
2014-06-18T11:41:14Z
Jun 18, 2014

If this is a web based application, manual testing will have to be performed each time to continually detect regression, results collected and sorted to render patterns and history with enough information to pass to development to communicate the issue. You might look for a tool that enables manual testers, without even programming skills, to capture steps in very small sets, assembling them where the small atomic scripts are much more easily maintained, so that tests run more consistently, faster and more frequently. Are you stuck using only that vendor's tools or can you use something more modern, productive and effective?

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