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Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs SAP Process Orchestration comparison

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Categories and Ranking

Pentaho Data Integration an...
Average Rating
8.0
Reviews Sentiment
6.7
Number of Reviews
61
Ranking in other categories
Data Integration (9th)
SAP Process Orchestration
Average Rating
8.2
Reviews Sentiment
6.8
Number of Reviews
35
Ranking in other categories
Business-to-Business Middleware (7th)
 

Mindshare comparison

Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics and SAP Process Orchestration aren’t in the same category and serve different purposes. Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is designed for Data Integration and holds a mindshare of 1.8%, up 1.6% compared to last year.
SAP Process Orchestration, on the other hand, focuses on Business-to-Business Middleware, holds 3.7% mindshare, down 6.3% since last year.
Data Integration Mindshare Distribution
ProductMindshare (%)
Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics1.8%
SSIS4.0%
Informatica Intelligent Data Management Cloud (IDMC)3.8%
Other90.4%
Data Integration
Business-to-Business Middleware Mindshare Distribution
ProductMindshare (%)
SAP Process Orchestration3.7%
SEEBURGER Business Integration Suite10.2%
MuleSoft Anypoint Platform9.2%
Other76.9%
Business-to-Business Middleware
 

Featured Reviews

Michelle Lawson - PeerSpot reviewer
Principal Software Engineer at a tech vendor with 10,001+ employees
Streamlines complex data workflows and has supported automated customer payment notifications
I haven't used Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics in a couple of years, so I don't know how it can be improved. I was pretty pleased with it and was self-taught on it, working a lot with their team at various times, but they were surprised that I was able to learn it all by myself. The documentation is not bad, and documentation is the main thing that any product can do to make themselves better because the easier it is to find examples of what you're trying to do improves the learning curve. I think it took me the longest to learn how to do the asynchronous processing and have things wait for other things to finish processing before continuing on in the workflow. I choose 8 out of 10 because the one reason that it's been rejected at T-Mobile is that everything has to go through a provisioning process and has to get approved, meaning the actual code base has to be investigated by T-Mobile before they'll allow us to use tools of that nature. For whatever reason, we just haven't been able to get that approval; I don't know if it's on Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics' side or if it's on our side. The more you can make it easier for companies to feel comfortable that your product is secure, robustly tested and bug-free, and free of any other kind of negative hacks, the more quickly it will get accepted.
Vasanth Kumar Sabaapathi - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Lead Architect at a manufacturing company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Simplified integrations bring flexibility and efficiency to diverse industries through comprehensive features and robust support
SAP is already trying to make improvements for SAP Process Orchestration by releasing updates every quarter, including patches and modules, and from a security standpoint, while it's a tightly coupled tool, they are introducing a lot of enhancements aligned with current market trends. There are standard contents readily available for starting integrations, which suit around 90% of every industry across verticals including pharma, manufacturing, and employee data central with SuccessFactors integration. Regarding functionality-wise improvements in SAP Process Orchestration, they are now incorporating the Salesforce system. Previously, we needed to rely on a third-party adapter for integration within SAP, but now they are building their own adapters to connect with Salesforce. Additionally, there are options like data connectors using Ariba coming up with SAP Process Orchestration. There's much more to explore, especially as they release new patches, enhancements, and adapters each quarter.

Quotes from Members

We asked business professionals to review the solutions they use. Here are some excerpts of what they said:
 

Pros

"The way it has improved our product is by giving our users the ability to do ad hoc reports, which is very important to our users. We can do predictive analysis on trends coming in for contracts, which is what our product does. The product helps users decide which way to go based on the predictive analysis done by Pentaho. Pentaho is not doing predictions, but reporting on the predictions that our product is doing. This is a big part of our product."
"The way it has improved our product is by giving our users the ability to do ad hoc reports, which is very important to our users."
"Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics has had a notably positive impact on my organization, enabling us to complete several projects efficiently."
"I would fully recommend Pentaho."
"The fact that it's a low-code solution is valuable. It's good for more junior people who may not be as experienced with programming."
"Easy to use, support for all databases (jdbc and odbc connection), xls, csv, files, txt, SAS, R."
"As a result of one of the projects that we did in the Middle East, we achieved the main goal of fully digitalizing their population census."
"After using this product, we could do some of the things much faster than before."
"The most valuable features of SAP Process Orchestration are the standard APIs that we can use."
"The solution makes it easy to solve integration problems."
"With the migration into the new version, the performance has improved and our customers are pleased with this improvement."
"The most valuable features of SAP Process Orchestration are its system monitoring and alerts."
"It provides essential features such as continuous monitoring of all interfaces are crucial for our needs."
"With the latest version what I find to be the most valuable are the REST, SuccessFactors, and Ariba Network adapters."
"Great monitoring tools and has its own alert framework."
"The standard adapter with EBA abilities is the most valuable feature. It has good process integration."
 

Cons

"The product needs more plugins."
"If you're working with a larger data set, I'm not so sure it would be the best solution; the larger things got the slower it was and it was kind of buggy sometimes."
"If you develop it on MacBook, it'll be quite a hassle."
"Its basic functionality doesn't need a whole lot of change. There could be some improvement in the consistency of the behavior of different transformation steps. The software did start as open-source and a lot of the fundamental, everyday transformation steps that you use when building ETL jobs were developed by different people. It is not a seamless paradigm. A table input step has a different way of thinking than a data merge step."
"To improve Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics, I suggest developing capabilities for cloud-based solutions instead of being solely on-premises."
"Searching repository for reports or dashboards"
"I'm still in the very recent stage concerning Pentaho Data Integration, but it can't really handle what I describe as "extreme data processing" i.e. when there is a huge amount of data to process. That is one area where Pentaho is still lacking."
"Lumada could have more native connectors with other vendors, such as Google BigQuery, Microsoft OneDrive, Jira systems, and Facebook or Instagram. We would like to gather data from modern platforms using Lumada, which is a better approach. As a comparison, if you open Power BI to retrieve data, then you can get data from many vendors with cloud-native connectors, such as Azure, AWS, Google BigQuery, and Athena Redshift. Lumada should have more native connectors to help us and facilitate our job in gathering information from these new modern infrastructures and tools."
"Some configurations can be a little tricky."
"It is not a scalable solution for the cloud. I would not recommend this for organizations that are primarily cloud-based."
"Data modeling is an area of concern in the product where improvements are required."
"I feel that support is an area that needs improvement. They need to improve the response time and address the customer's issues as soon as possible."
"The usability, for example, is an area where it can be improved upon."
"It does not have all of the industry-standard solutions available in PO and it is not plug and play, so we have to do a lot of development."
"SAP Process Orchestration could improve from an API standpoint. This is not an API management tool, which is one of its drawbacks. However, SAP has released an SAP Cloud Platform Integration which has all of the features, such as API management along with process integration to replace what they had previously."
"The monitoring governance offered by SAP is too technical; only the consultants that have technical skills or development skills are able to manage this product."
 

Pricing and Cost Advice

"We are using the Community Edition. We have been trying to use and sell the Enterprise version, but that hasn't been possible due to the budget required for it."
"There is a good open source option (Community Edition)​."
"Sometimes we provide the licenses or the customer can procure their own licenses. Previously, we had an enterprise license. Currently, we are on a community license as this is adequate for our needs."
"When we first started with it, it was much cheaper. It has gone up drastically, especially since Hitachi bought out Pentaho."
"The pricing has been pretty good. I'm used to using everything open-source or freeware-based. I understand that organizations need to make sure that the solutions are secure, and that's basically where I hit a roadblock in my current organization. They needed to ensure that we had a license and we had a secure way of accessing it so that no outside parties could get access to our data, but in terms of pricing, considering how much other teams are spending on cloud solutions or even their existing solutions, its price point is pretty good. At this time, there are no additional costs. We just have the licensing fees."
"You don't need the Enterprise Edition, you can go with the Community Edition. That way you can use it for free and, for free, it's a pretty good tool to use."
"I mostly used the open-source version. I didn't work with a license."
"We did a two or three-year deal the last time we did it. As compared to other solutions, at least so far in our experience, it has been very affordable. The licensing is by component. So, you need to make sure you only license the components that you really intend to use. I am not sure if we have relicensed after the Hitachi acquisition, but previously, multi-year renewals resulted in a good discount. I'm not sure if this is still the case. We've had the full suite for a lot of years, and there is just the initial cost. I am not aware of any additional costs."
"We subscribe to annual licenses, and the competitive license cost is reasonable."
"The fee for maintenance is costly."
"It's not an expensive solution."
"It is a very expensive solution. We only pay for the license."
"The pricing depends on what type of client you are with SAP and the contract you have. There is a licensing cost that needs to be paid."
"The solution is highly-priced."
"My company deals with different pricing models of the product, according to which we don't pay for the solution directly, but we do pay for the maintenance part."
"The pricing for this solution is fine."
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Top Industries

By visitors reading reviews
Financial Services Firm
12%
Outsourcing Company
11%
Construction Company
9%
Educational Organization
8%
Comms Service Provider
10%
Manufacturing Company
9%
Outsourcing Company
9%
Construction Company
9%
 

Company Size

By reviewers
Large Enterprise
Midsize Enterprise
Small Business
By reviewers
Company SizeCount
Small Business18
Midsize Enterprise17
Large Enterprise32
By reviewers
Company SizeCount
Small Business8
Midsize Enterprise3
Large Enterprise26
 

Questions from the Community

Which ETL tool would you recommend to populate data from OLTP to OLAP?
Hi Rajneesh, yes here is the feature comparison between the community and enterprise edition : https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/pdf/brochure/leverage-open-source-benefits-with-assurance-of-hita...
What do you think can be improved with Hitachi Lumada Data Integrations?
In my opinion, the reporting side of this tool needs serious improvements. In my previous company, we worked with Hitachi Lumada Data Integration and while it does a good job for what it’s worth, ...
What do you use Hitachi Lumada Data Integrations for most frequently?
My company has used this product to transform data from databases, CSV files, and flat files. It really does a good job. We were most satisfied with the results in terms of how many people could us...
What is your experience regarding pricing and costs for SAP Process Orchestration?
The price for SAP Process Orchestration is a little high when compared to market trends, which is just how the business is. I would rate it an eight.
What needs improvement with SAP Process Orchestration?
SAP is already trying to make improvements for SAP Process Orchestration by releasing updates every quarter, including patches and modules, and from a security standpoint, while it's a tightly coup...
What is your primary use case for SAP Process Orchestration?
The main use case for SAP Process Orchestration is that it's an SAP proprietary tool which integrates within SAP and outside SAP. It's the most familiar middleware tool which is used for integrations.
 

Also Known As

Hitachi Lumada Data Integration, Kettle, Pentaho Data Integration
SAP NetWeaver Process Integration, NetWeaver Process Integration
 

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