Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs SAP Process Orchestration comparison

Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs. SAP Process Orchestration

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Categories and Ranking

Pentaho Data Integration an...

Average Rating

8.0

Reviews Sentiment

6.7

Number of Reviews

Ranking in other categories

Data Integration (7th)

SAP Process Orchestration

Average Rating

8.2

Reviews Sentiment

6.8

Number of Reviews

Ranking in other categories

Business-to-Business Middleware (7th)

Mindshare comparison

Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics and SAP Process Orchestration aren’t in the same category and serve different purposes. Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is designed for Data Integration and holds a mindshare of 1.7%, up 1.6% compared to last year.
SAP Process Orchestration, on the other hand, focuses on Business-to-Business Middleware, holds 4.1% mindshare, down 8.0% since last year.

Data Integration Mindshare Distribution
Product	Mindshare (%)
Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics	1.7%
SSIS	3.7%
Informatica Intelligent Data Management Cloud (IDMC)	3.6%
Other	91.0%

Data Integration

Business-to-Business Middleware Mindshare Distribution
Product	Mindshare (%)
SAP Process Orchestration	4.1%
SEEBURGER Business Integration Suite	10.5%
IBM Sterling B2B Integration Services	10.1%
Other	75.3%

Business-to-Business Middleware

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Michelle Lawson

Principal Software Engineer at a tech vendor with 10,001+ employees

Streamlines complex data workflows and has supported automated customer payment notifications

I haven't used Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics in a couple of years, so I don't know how it can be improved. I was pretty pleased with it and was self-taught on it, working a lot with their team at various times, but they were surprised that I was able to learn it all by myself. The documentation is not bad, and documentation is the main thing that any product can do to make themselves better because the easier it is to find examples of what you're trying to do improves the learning curve. I think it took me the longest to learn how to do the asynchronous processing and have things wait for other things to finish processing before continuing on in the workflow. I choose 8 out of 10 because the one reason that it's been rejected at T-Mobile is that everything has to go through a provisioning process and has to get approved, meaning the actual code base has to be investigated by T-Mobile before they'll allow us to use tools of that nature. For whatever reason, we just haven't been able to get that approval; I don't know if it's on Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics' side or if it's on our side. The more you can make it easier for companies to feel comfortable that your product is secure, robustly tested and bug-free, and free of any other kind of negative hacks, the more quickly it will get accepted.

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Vasanth Kumar Sabaapathi

Senior Lead Architect at a manufacturing company with 1,001-5,000 employees

Simplified integrations bring flexibility and efficiency to diverse industries through comprehensive features and robust support

SAP is already trying to make improvements for SAP Process Orchestration by releasing updates every quarter, including patches and modules, and from a security standpoint, while it's a tightly coupled tool, they are introducing a lot of enhancements aligned with current market trends. There are standard contents readily available for starting integrations, which suit around 90% of every industry across verticals including pharma, manufacturing, and employee data central with SuccessFactors integration. Regarding functionality-wise improvements in SAP Process Orchestration, they are now incorporating the Salesforce system. Previously, we needed to rely on a third-party adapter for integration within SAP, but now they are building their own adapters to connect with Salesforce. Additionally, there are options like data connectors using Ariba coming up with SAP Process Orchestration. There's much more to explore, especially as they release new patches, enhancements, and adapters each quarter.

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Quotes from Members

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Pros

"The product is user-friendly and intuitive"

"This solution allows us to create pipelines using a minimal amount of custom coding."

"Anyone thinking about an ETL product, if they want high productivity on data cleaning and data movement, Pentaho Data Integration, in my opinion, is the best tool."

"Sometimes, it took a whole team about two weeks to get all the data to prepare and present it. After the optimization of the data, it took about one to two hours to do the whole process. Therefore, it has helped a lot when you talk about money, because it doesn't take a whole team to do it, just one person to do one project at a time and run it when you want to run it. So, it has helped a lot on that side."

"Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics has had a notably positive impact on my organization, enabling us to complete several projects efficiently."

"When I started doing it and did the migration so that all that ETL process would be done in Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics, I reduced the processing time from two and a half hours per run to seven minutes."

"Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is a great solution to accomplish big things in a very short time."

"Lumada Data Integration definitely helps with decision-making for our deans and upper executives, and the fact that we're able to reuse some of the ETLs with the metadata injection saves us time and costs while making it a pretty quick process for our developers to learn and pick up ETLs from each other."

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"The stability of the product is very good; there are no bugs or glitches, it doesn't crash or freeze, and it's reliable."

"The initial setup is easy...The solution gets automatically connected. The deployment takes six months. I rate its setup phase a ten out of ten."

"Someone who has to work on a PO should at least have a basic understanding of Java because as it is an integration tool, the way SAP provides to transform the messages from one structure to another is very good."

"SAP Process Orchestration provides extensive integrations with external partners, supports B2B operations, and has prepackaged content that saves development time."

"The solution is working well; we don't have any operational problems with it at all."

"SAP Process Orchestration offers easy maintainability and is a very flexible tool that easily adapts to any integration standards and artifacts that are readily available."

"SAP is the best solution for them to integrate with many other third-party systems or other VRP systems."

"It is simple to transfer files."

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Cons

"A big problem after deploying something that we do in Lumada is with Git. You get a binary file to do a code review. So, if you need to do a review, you have to take pictures of the screen to show each step. That is the biggest bug if you are using Git."

"In terms of the flexibility to deploy in any environment, such as on-premise or in the cloud, we can do the cloud deployment only through virtual machines. We might also be able to work on different environments through Docker or Kubernetes, but we don't have an Azure app or an AWS app for easy deployment to the cloud. We can only do it through virtual machines, which is a problem, but we can manage it. We also work with Databricks because it works with Spark. We can work with clustered servers, and we can easily do the deployment in the cloud. With a right-click, we can deploy Databricks through the app on AWS or Azure cloud."

"The web interface is rusty, and the biggest problem with Pentaho is debugging and troubleshooting. It isn't easy to build the pipeline incrementally. At least in our case, it's hard to find a way to execute step by step in the debugging mode."

"I was not happy with the Pentaho Report Designer because of the way it was set up."

"It could be better integrated with programming languages, like Python and R. Right now, if I want to run a Python code on one of my ETLs, it is a bit difficult to do. It would be great if we have some modules where we could code directly in a Python language. We don't really have a way to run Python code natively."

"I think Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics needs additional plugins for the market, and for some specific tasks it is very difficult."

"Support for common Hadoop utilities can be expanded, such as bulk load with composite row keys for HBase, and include drivers for Impala out-of-the-box."

"One thing that I don't like, just a little, is the backward compatibility."

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"The solution is not very scalable because it is at the end of its life."

"Process Orchestration doesn't provide authentication for data sent to us, meaning we have to rely on client certificate-based or basic authentication."

"We have experienced latency and reliability issues when using large amounts of data."

"The cloud capability features need improvement."

"It does not have all of the industry-standard solutions available in PO and it is not plug and play, so we have to do a lot of development."

"There are two main areas for improvement: performance and cost."

"The older version of the solution will no longer be supported."

"This is an on-premise platform and one area they can improve on is having the ability to work with SaaS solutions."

More SAP Process Orchestration cons

Pricing and Cost Advice

"I think Lumada's price is fair compared to some of the others, like BusinessObjects, which is was the other thing that I used at my previous job. BusinessObject's price was more reasonable before SAP acquired it. They jacked the price up significantly. Oracle's OBIEE tool was also prohibitively expensive."

"You need to go through the paid version to have Hitachi Lumada specialized support. However, if you are using the free version, then you will have only the community support. You will depend on the releases from Hitachi to solve some problem or questions that you have, such as bug fixes. You will need to wait for the newest versions or releases to solve these types of problems."

"Sometimes we provide the licenses or the customer can procure their own licenses. Previously, we had an enterprise license. Currently, we are on a community license as this is adequate for our needs."

"You don't need the Enterprise Edition, you can go with the Community Edition. That way you can use it for free and, for free, it's a pretty good tool to use."

"If a company is looking for an ETL solution and wants to integrate it with their tech stack but doesn't want to spend a bunch of money, Pentaho is a good solution"

"We are using the Community Edition. We have been trying to use and sell the Enterprise version, but that hasn't been possible due to the budget required for it."

"The cost of these types of solutions are expensive. So, we really appreciate what we get for our money. Though, we don't think of the solution as a top-of-the-line solution or anything like that."

"The solution reduced our ETL development time by a lot because a whole project used to take about a month to get done previously. After having Lumada, it took just a week. For a big company in Brazil, it saves a team at least $10,000 a month."

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"The price of SAP Process Orchestration was reasonable."

"Normally, you will have to choose CPU-based licensing...I rate the tool price a five out of ten."

"My company deals with different pricing models of the product, according to which we don't pay for the solution directly, but we do pay for the maintenance part."

"The pricing depends on what type of client you are with SAP and the contract you have. There is a licensing cost that needs to be paid."

"There are fees in addition to the licensing."

"The solution is highly-priced."

"It is a very expensive solution. We only pay for the license."

"The product is not a low-priced solution, but I can say that it is competitively priced in the market."

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Top Industries

By visitors reading reviews

Financial Services Firm

15%

Educational Organization

Government

Manufacturing Company

12%

Computer Software Company

11%

Comms Service Provider

Financial Services Firm

Company Size

By reviewers

Large Enterprise

Midsize Enterprise

Small Business

By reviewers
Company Size	Count
Small Business	18
Midsize Enterprise	17
Large Enterprise	31

By reviewers
Company Size	Count
Small Business	8
Midsize Enterprise	3
Large Enterprise	26

Questions from the Community

Which ETL tool would you recommend to populate data from OLTP to OLAP?

Hi Rajneesh, yes here is the feature comparison between the community and enterprise edition : https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/pdf/brochure/leverage-open-source-benefits-with-assurance-of-hita...

What do you think can be improved with Hitachi Lumada Data Integrations?

In my opinion, the reporting side of this tool needs serious improvements. In my previous company, we worked with Hitachi Lumada Data Integration and while it does a good job for what it’s worth, ...

What do you use Hitachi Lumada Data Integrations for most frequently?

My company has used this product to transform data from databases, CSV files, and flat files. It really does a good job. We were most satisfied with the results in terms of how many people could us...

What is your experience regarding pricing and costs for SAP Process Orchestration?

The price for SAP Process Orchestration is a little high when compared to market trends, which is just how the business is. I would rate it an eight.

What needs improvement with SAP Process Orchestration?

What is your primary use case for SAP Process Orchestration?

The main use case for SAP Process Orchestration is that it's an SAP proprietary tool which integrates within SAP and outside SAP. It's the most familiar middleware tool which is used for integrations.

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Also Known As

Hitachi Lumada Data Integration, Kettle, Pentaho Data Integration

SAP NetWeaver Process Integration, NetWeaver Process Integration

Overview

Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics offers an intuitive platform for data workflows, enabling users to easily manage ETL processes across diverse data formats, ensuring seamless automation and development.

With its drag-and-drop interface, Pentaho allows for efficient ETL workflows without extensive coding. It supports a multitude of data formats and sources such as SQL, NoSQL, Hadoop, CSV, and JSON. Advanced features like metadata injection and API integration enable seamless automation. However, improvements in big data performance, better cloud service integration, and enhanced real-time processing capabilities can enhance user experience. Additional connectors and improved documentation are sought after by many. Providing support for more programming languages and optimizing memory usage also presents opportunities for enhancement.

What are the key features of Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics?

Drag-and-Drop Interface: Simplifies building workflows without coding.
Broad Data Support: Accommodates SQL, NoSQL, Hadoop, CSV, and JSON.
Advanced Automation: Leverages metadata injection and API integration.
Cost-Effectiveness: Offers value with comprehensive big data support.

What benefits should be evaluated in Pentaho reviews?

Versatility: Supports both on-premises and cloud solutions.
Data Integration: Facilitates seamless connection of disparate data sources.
Transparency: Enhances data management and reporting.
Scalability: Adapts to the growing data needs of organizations.

Pentaho is employed across finance, healthcare, and retail industries for ETL processes. It's instrumental in integrating data from ERP, SAP systems, Excel, and APIs to develop comprehensive reports and data models. Companies rely on its capabilities for both on-premises and cloud deployments, improving data transparency and management.

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SAP Process Orchestration offers centralized monitoring, extensive integration capabilities, and flexible connectivity, supporting smooth interactions between SAP and non-SAP systems. Its robust tools facilitate B2B operations and enhance automation, providing enhanced workflow efficiency across platforms.

SAP Process Orchestration serves as a key middleware choice for enterprises needing integration solutions. It supports e-commerce, e-invoicing, and seamless data exchange on a global scale. With capabilities in security and transaction handling, the suite facilitates AI and B2B integrations while connecting ERP systems to third-party solutions. Highly beneficial prepackaged content, Java Message Service, and comprehensive documentation make it a preferred choice. Users value its adaptability and ease of use. However, updates to its interface, cloud integration, handling large data volumes, and scalability are sought after to improve Java reliance along with technical support and cost efficiency enhancements.

What features define SAP Process Orchestration?

Centralized Monitoring: Simplifies oversight across workflows.
Adapter Variety: Includes REST and SOAP for diverse connectivity.
Robust Integration: Ensures seamless SAP and non-SAP connectivity.
B2B Support: Enhances business-to-business operations.
Prepackaged Content: Offers automation tools and process efficiency.
Java Message Service: Supports reliable communication.

What benefits and ROI can users expect?

Flexibility: Easily adapts to changing business needs.
Enhanced Automation: Streamlines processes, increasing efficiency.
Comprehensive Connectivity: Facilitates integration with various systems and platforms.
Documentation: Provides detailed guidance for usage.

SAP Process Orchestration is widely implemented in sectors that require robust integration capabilities. It supports industries ranging from e-commerce to financial services, managing secure data exchanges and fostering AI integration. Its versatility allows use in cloud and on-premises applications, promoting enhanced connectivity and optimized workflows.

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Sample Customers

66Controls, Providential Revenue Agency of Ro Negro, NOAA Information Systems, Swiss Real Estate Institute

Lenovo, Dansk Supermarked A/S, Ego Pharmaceuticals Pty. Ltd, Kaeser Kompressoren

Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs. SAP Process Orchestration