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We performed a comparison between Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics and SAP Process Orchestration based on real PeerSpot user reviews.

Find out in this report how the two Data Integration solutions compare in terms of features, pricing, service and support, easy of deployment, and ROI.
To learn more, read our detailed Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs. SAP Process Orchestration Report (Updated: July 2023).
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Pros
"The abstraction is quite good.""The fact that it enables us to leverage metadata to automate data pipeline templates and reuse them is definitely one of the features that we like the best. The metadata injection is helpful because it reduces the need to create and maintain additional ETLs. If we didn't have that feature, we would have lots of duplicated ETLs that we would have to create and maintain. The data pipeline templates have definitely been helpful when looking at productivity and costs.""It has a really friendly user interface, which is its main feature. The process of automating or combining SQL code with some databases and doing the automation is great and really convenient.""The graphical nature of the development interface is most useful because we've got people with quite mixed skills in the team. We've got some very junior, apprentice-level people, and we've got support analysts who don't have an IT background. It allows us to have quite complicated data flows and embed logic in them. Rather than having to troll through lines and lines of code and try and work out what it's doing, you get a visual representation, which makes it quite easy for people with mixed skills to support and maintain the product. That's one side of it.""Its drag-and-drop interface lets me and my team implement all the solutions that we need in our company very quickly. It's a very good tool for that.""It's very simple compared to other products out there.""One of the valuable features is the ability to use PL/SQL statements inside the data transformations and jobs.""The area where Lumada has helped us is in the commercial area. There are many extractions to compose reports about our sales team performance and production steps. Since we are using Lumada to gather data from each industry in each country. We can get data from Argentina, Chile, Brazil, and Colombia at the same time. We can then concentrate and consolidate it in only one place, like our data warehouse. This improves our production performance and need for information about the industry, production data, and commercial data."

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"The solution offers very good documentation and manuals to assist with understanding the solution.""In my opinion, SAP PO is the most mature suite of tools to integrate processes across SAP environments at this moment. It's really unbeatable because it allows you to integrate whatever scenarios you can imagine.""SAP Process Orchestration has all the features that are necessary.""The most valuable feature is the seamless integration with backend systems.""The monitoring tools are the most valuable feature.""The product has good technical support but you usually will not need it because it is quite stable.""The monitoring is one of the greatest features in Process Orchestration because it is user-friendly and easy for somebody who is not experienced.""Process Orchestration fulfils the need for middleware to mediate types of connectivity."

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Cons
"The testing and quality could really improve. Every time that there is a major release, we are very nervous about what is going to get broken. We have had a lot of experience with that, as even the latest one was broken. Some basic things get broken. That doesn't look good for Hitachi at all. If there is one place I would advise them to spend some money and do some effort, it is with the quality. It is not that hard to start putting in some unit tests so basic things don't get broken when they do a new release. That just looks horrible, especially for an organization like Hitachi.""It's not very stable, at least not in the case of the community edition. I'm working with the community edition right now and I think perhaps it is because of that it is not very stable, it causes the system to sometimes hang. I'm not sure if this is the case for pair tiers.""One thing that I don't like, just a little, is the backward compatibility.""The product needs more plugins.""Since Hitachi took over, I don't feel that the documentation is as good within the solution. It used to have very good help built right in.""I'm still in the very recent stage concerning Pentaho Data Integration, but it can't really handle what I describe as "extreme data processing" i.e. when there is a huge amount of data to process. That is one area where Pentaho is still lacking.""A big problem after deploying something that we do in Lumada is with Git. You get a binary file to do a code review. So, if you need to do a review, you have to take pictures of the screen to show each step. That is the biggest bug if you are using Git.""Its basic functionality doesn't need a whole lot of change. There could be some improvement in the consistency of the behavior of different transformation steps. The software did start as open-source and a lot of the fundamental, everyday transformation steps that you use when building ETL jobs were developed by different people. It is not a seamless paradigm. A table input step has a different way of thinking than a data merge step."

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"This is an on-premise platform and one area they can improve on is having the ability to work with SaaS solutions.""SAP Process Orchestration breaks down sometimes.""I think the main area that SAP PO should improve on is offering pre-delivered content like they do when you use SAP Cloud Platform Integration (CPI). SAP should not forget that they still have a lot of customers using Process Orchestration and they should focus more on providing pre-delivered content in SAP PO.""Data modeling is an area of concern in the product where improvements are required.""It would be beneficial to enhance the ease of implementing new projects and improve overall stability in our implementations.""The solution could be more scalable.""The product roadmap suggests it will approach the end of support in several years, and a lot of innovations are now implemented by SAP not in SAP PO, but in SAP Integration Suite, hence, the platform is stable, but doesn't receive a lot of new features in recent updates.""SAP needs to improve a lot in terms of the orchestration part so that more adapters can be provided to users, which are areas where the solution has downsides."

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Pricing and Cost Advice
  • "There is a good open source option (Community Edition)​."
  • "The price of the regular version is not reasonable and it should be lower."
  • "Sometimes we provide the licenses or the customer can procure their own licenses. Previously, we had an enterprise license. Currently, we are on a community license as this is adequate for our needs."
  • "It does seem a bit expensive compared to the serverless product offering. Tools, such as Server Integration Services, are "almost" free with a database engine. It is comparable to products like Alteryx, which is also very expensive."
  • "I think Lumada's price is fair compared to some of the others, like BusinessObjects, which is was the other thing that I used at my previous job. BusinessObject's price was more reasonable before SAP acquired it. They jacked the price up significantly. Oracle's OBIEE tool was also prohibitively expensive."
  • "When we first started with it, it was much cheaper. It has gone up drastically, especially since Hitachi bought out Pentaho."
  • "The cost of these types of solutions are expensive. So, we really appreciate what we get for our money. Though, we don't think of the solution as a top-of-the-line solution or anything like that."
  • "The pricing has been pretty good. I'm used to using everything open-source or freeware-based. I understand that organizations need to make sure that the solutions are secure, and that's basically where I hit a roadblock in my current organization. They needed to ensure that we had a license and we had a secure way of accessing it so that no outside parties could get access to our data, but in terms of pricing, considering how much other teams are spending on cloud solutions or even their existing solutions, its price point is pretty good. At this time, there are no additional costs. We just have the licensing fees."
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  • "The cost of SAP products is quite high but the quality is really good."
  • "The pricing for this solution is fine."
  • "There are fees in addition to the licensing."
  • "It's not an expensive solution."
  • "Looking at market conditions, vendors nowadays are giving products at very low price levels. However, SAP Process Orchestration have not yet reduced their prices. The prices could be reduced a lot to stay competitive."
  • "The license is a one-time payment, and additional costs are only incurred on the infrastructure side since it's an on-premise solution."
  • "The price of SAP Process Orchestration was reasonable."
  • "The fee for maintenance is costly."
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    Questions from the Community
    Top Answer:Hi Rajneesh yes here is the feature comparison between the community and enterprise edition :… more »
    Top Answer: In my opinion, the reporting side of this tool needs serious improvements. In my previous company, we worked with Hitachi Lumada Data Integration and while it does a good job for what it’s worth, it… more »
    Top Answer:My company has used this product to transform data from databases, CSV files, and flat files. It really does a good job. We were most satisfied with the results in terms of how many people could use… more »
    Top Answer: It provides essential features such as continuous monitoring of all interfaces are crucial for our needs.
    Top Answer:We subscribe to annual licenses, and the competitive license cost is reasonable. We find that the cost is even more affordable compared to other options available in the market.
    Top Answer:Implementing changes and introducing new interfaces in Process Orchestration should have been more straightforward. The current system is burdened with a heavy load and has become overly complex… more »
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    Also Known As
    Hitachi Lumada Data Integration, Kettle, Pentaho Data Integration
    SAP NetWeaver Process Integration, NetWeaver Process Integration
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    Overview

    Pentaho Data Integration stands as a versatile platform designed to cater to the data integration and analytics needs of organizations, regardless of their size. This powerful solution is the go-to choice for businesses seeking to seamlessly integrate data from diverse sources, including databases, files, and applications. Pentaho Data Integration facilitates the essential tasks of cleaning and transforming data, ensuring it's primed for meaningful analysis. With a wide array of tools for data mining, machine learning, and statistical analysis, Pentaho Data Integration empowers organizations to glean valuable insights from their data. What sets Pentaho Data Integration apart is its maturity and a vibrant community of users and developers, making it a reliable and cost-effective option. Pentaho Data Integration offers a range of features, including a comprehensive ETL toolkit, data cleaning and transformation capabilities, robust data analysis tools, and seamless deployment options for data integration and analytics solutions, making it a go-to solution for organizations seeking to harness the power of their data.

    SAP NetWeaver Process Integration facilitates the integration of business processes that span different departments, organizations, or companies. SAP PI is based on general standards so as to enable 3rd-party systems to be integrated. At the center of SAP PI is an XML-based communication that uses HTTP (Hyper Text Transfer Protocol). Irrespective of the scenario used, the application-specific contents are transferred in messages in user-defined XML eXtensible Markup Language) from the sender to the receiver either via the Integration Server, or directly between the systems involved. SAP PI can be installed in different ways: Dual usage type installation: Based on both AS ABAP and AS Java. and Advanced Adapter Engine Extended (AEX): Based on AS Java only.
    Sample Customers
    66Controls, Providential Revenue Agency of Ro Negro, NOAA Information Systems, Swiss Real Estate Institute
    Lenovo, Dansk Supermarked A/S, Ego Pharmaceuticals Pty. Ltd, Kaeser Kompressoren
    Top Industries
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    Healthcare Company19%
    Financial Services Firm19%
    Comms Service Provider11%
    Manufacturing Company11%
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    Financial Services Firm19%
    Computer Software Company13%
    Comms Service Provider12%
    Government7%
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    Manufacturing Company30%
    Wholesaler/Distributor17%
    Computer Software Company13%
    Retailer9%
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    Computer Software Company15%
    Manufacturing Company14%
    Energy/Utilities Company7%
    Financial Services Firm6%
    Company Size
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    Small Business27%
    Midsize Enterprise31%
    Large Enterprise42%
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    Small Business21%
    Midsize Enterprise11%
    Large Enterprise68%
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    Small Business27%
    Midsize Enterprise3%
    Large Enterprise70%
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    Large Enterprise69%
    Buyer's Guide
    Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs. SAP Process Orchestration
    July 2023
    Find out what your peers are saying about Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs. SAP Process Orchestration and other solutions. Updated: July 2023.
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    Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is ranked 16th in Data Integration with 48 reviews while SAP Process Orchestration is ranked 1st in Business-to-Business Middleware with 28 reviews. Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is rated 8.0, while SAP Process Orchestration is rated 8.2. The top reviewer of Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics writes "It's flexible and can do almost anything I want it to do". On the other hand, the top reviewer of SAP Process Orchestration writes "A tool that can be useful for small integrations and large integrations". Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is most compared with Azure Data Factory, SSIS, Talend Open Studio, Oracle Data Integrator (ODI) and AWS Glue, whereas SAP Process Orchestration is most compared with Mule Anypoint Platform, SAP Data Services, webMethods Integration Server, IBM Sterling B2B Integration Services and IBM B2B Integrator. See our Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs. SAP Process Orchestration report.

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