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We performed a comparison between Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics and Talend Data integration based on real PeerSpot user reviews.

Find out in this report how the two Cloud Data Integration solutions compare in terms of features, pricing, service and support, easy of deployment, and ROI.
To learn more, read our detailed Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs. Talend Data integration Report (Updated: March 2024).
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Q&A Highlights
Question: Which ETL tool would you recommend to populate data from OLTP to OLAP?
Answer: We have experiences only in Pentaho Data Integrator (open source competitor of the Oracle Data Integrator). But OLAP exporting wasn't in our scope until now.
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Pros
"The solution has a free to use community version.""Pentaho Data Integration is quite simple to learn, and there is a lot of information available online.""It has improved our data integration capabilities​.""The amount of data that it loads and processes is good.""I can create faster instructions than writing with SQL or code. Also, I am able to do some background control of the data process with this tool. Therefore, I use it as an ELT tool. I have a station area where I can work with all the information that I have in my production databases, then I can work with the data that I created.""The area where Lumada has helped us is in the commercial area. There are many extractions to compose reports about our sales team performance and production steps. Since we are using Lumada to gather data from each industry in each country. We can get data from Argentina, Chile, Brazil, and Colombia at the same time. We can then concentrate and consolidate it in only one place, like our data warehouse. This improves our production performance and need for information about the industry, production data, and commercial data.""Its drag-and-drop interface lets me and my team implement all the solutions that we need in our company very quickly. It's a very good tool for that.""It has a really friendly user interface, which is its main feature. The process of automating or combining SQL code with some databases and doing the automation is great and really convenient."

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"Talend Data integration has a wide library of connectors.""I'm very passionate about this solution because if you look at any other tool that costs around $200 - $300,000, like Delphix which costs you a million dollars, Talend is very cheap and is almost is at par with what others can do. There is one thing which Delphix does which Talend cannot do, but overall, I would say apart from that, if you're looking for a solution, you should give it a try.""The product's integration with PostgreSQL and Jira has been helpful for us. Its performance is good. However, we do not use it for large data sets.""We have multiple use cases for this solution. We integrate with Salesforce, SAP and Oracle databases to build business logic and provide reporting."

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Cons
"Although it is a low-code solution with a graphical interface, often the error messages that you get are of the type that a developer would be happy with. You get a big stack of red text and Java errors displayed on the screen, and less technical people can get intimidated by that. It can be a bit intimidating to get a wall of red error messages displayed. Other graphical tools that are focused at the power user level provide a much more user-friendly experience in dealing with your exceptions and guiding the user into where they've made the mistake.""One thing that I don't like, just a little, is the backward compatibility.""Its basic functionality doesn't need a whole lot of change. There could be some improvement in the consistency of the behavior of different transformation steps. The software did start as open-source and a lot of the fundamental, everyday transformation steps that you use when building ETL jobs were developed by different people. It is not a seamless paradigm. A table input step has a different way of thinking than a data merge step.""The web interface is rusty, and the biggest problem with Pentaho is debugging and troubleshooting. It isn't easy to build the pipeline incrementally. At least in our case, it's hard to find a way to execute step by step in the debugging mode.""If you develop it on MacBook, it'll be quite a hassle.""A big problem after deploying something that we do in Lumada is with Git. You get a binary file to do a code review. So, if you need to do a review, you have to take pictures of the screen to show each step. That is the biggest bug if you are using Git.""In terms of the flexibility to deploy in any environment, such as on-premise or in the cloud, we can do the cloud deployment only through virtual machines. We might also be able to work on different environments through Docker or Kubernetes, but we don't have an Azure app or an AWS app for easy deployment to the cloud. We can only do it through virtual machines, which is a problem, but we can manage it. We also work with Databricks because it works with Spark. We can work with clustered servers, and we can easily do the deployment in the cloud. With a right-click, we can deploy Databricks through the app on AWS or Azure cloud.""I work with different databases. I would like to work with more connectors to new databases, e.g., DynamoDB and MariaDB, and new cloud solutions, e.g., AWS, Azure, and GCP. If they had these connectors, that would be great. They could improve by building new connectors. If you have native connections to different databases, then you can make instructions more efficient and in a more natural way. You don't have to write any scripts to use that connector."

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"There are no concurrent licenses, they only have seat licenses on cloud. That's the whole challenge. For example, if in any project your headcount increases or decreases, you do not have that concurrence and you have a seat license, you run into challenges because you have to procure a few more licenses for getting the job done.""Sometimes there are bugs which are unidentified and we have to follow-up with the Talend team to resolve them. In a critical situation, it takes time for them to update patches.""Due to using the open-source version of Talend Data Integration, which lacks a scheduler, our current approach involves developing jobs in Talend, exporting them as Java packages, and utilizing an external scheduler, such as Windows Scheduler, to manage the scheduling process.""The tool's technical support needs to be better. It doesn't have a local data center but pushes everything to the cloud. They need to check in with customers to see if they're happy and how well the solutions work. They need to assign a customer success manager for the accounts they sell."

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Pricing and Cost Advice
  • "There is a good open source option (Community Edition)​."
  • "The price of the regular version is not reasonable and it should be lower."
  • "Sometimes we provide the licenses or the customer can procure their own licenses. Previously, we had an enterprise license. Currently, we are on a community license as this is adequate for our needs."
  • "It does seem a bit expensive compared to the serverless product offering. Tools, such as Server Integration Services, are "almost" free with a database engine. It is comparable to products like Alteryx, which is also very expensive."
  • "I think Lumada's price is fair compared to some of the others, like BusinessObjects, which is was the other thing that I used at my previous job. BusinessObject's price was more reasonable before SAP acquired it. They jacked the price up significantly. Oracle's OBIEE tool was also prohibitively expensive."
  • "When we first started with it, it was much cheaper. It has gone up drastically, especially since Hitachi bought out Pentaho."
  • "The cost of these types of solutions are expensive. So, we really appreciate what we get for our money. Though, we don't think of the solution as a top-of-the-line solution or anything like that."
  • "The pricing has been pretty good. I'm used to using everything open-source or freeware-based. I understand that organizations need to make sure that the solutions are secure, and that's basically where I hit a roadblock in my current organization. They needed to ensure that we had a license and we had a secure way of accessing it so that no outside parties could get access to our data, but in terms of pricing, considering how much other teams are spending on cloud solutions or even their existing solutions, its price point is pretty good. At this time, there are no additional costs. We just have the licensing fees."
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  • "I have been using the open-source version."
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    Answers from the Community
    RajneeshShukla
    AThiré - PeerSpot reviewerAThiré
    User

    There are two products I know about
    * TimeXtender : Microsoft based, Transformation logic is quiet good and can easily be extended with T-SQL , Has a semantic layer that generates metat data for cubes . price approx 40K$, works with tables
    . Attunity (Bought by Qlik) : technology agnostic , nice web interface , expensive > 100K€. Works with transaction logs

    There are many other pure ETL tools
    * ERWIN has a nice one ,

    Phil Wilkins - PeerSpot reviewerPhil Wilkins (Capgemini)
    Consultant

    Depends upon the technologies being used. If you're using Oracle for both OLTP and OLAP then you'll get a lot of value from an Oracle solution.


    The other question is how up to date do you want your OLAP DB to be? Goldengate is a good answer if you're looking to minimize latency, but it can be expensive. ODI is less expensive but better suited to bulkier data sets.  If an Oracle product wasn't the option I'd probably consider something like Informatica.

    Karoly Krokovay - PeerSpot reviewerKaroly Krokovay
    Real User

    Hi Rajneesh,
    yes here is the feature comparison between the community and enterprise edition : www.hitachivantara.com

    And a short description of the community edition: www.predictiveanalyticstoday.com

    And the download link: community.hitachivantara.com

    You can ask more from the great community: forums.pentaho.com

    Regards
    Károly

    Stefan Schäfer - PeerSpot reviewerStefan Schäfer
    User

    We usually use Talend.
    Look here: community.talend.com

    GaryM - PeerSpot reviewerGaryM
    Real User

    As someone mentioned, if you're purely Oracle shop and staying that way then there's value with prioritizing Oracle tools.  However, let me contrast that with this caveat...


    Consider expectations for tool and vendor longevity. Oracle has a long history of retiring and/or replacing tools leaving customers in the cold with prior versions/tools (I've been burned multiple times by Oracle product retirements or replacements including OWB, Oracle Designer2k, Oracle Express, Oracle OEDW, their purchase of Sagent ETL which as later abandoned).


    But I would also consider these questions and relative prioritization:  


    What is your organization's plans for moving to other database technologies?  


    Where is your org going with on-prem versus cloud solutions?  How important are PaaS versus IaaS solutions?  


    Where is your current staff's expertise?  


    Prioritize mature over immature tools. 


    How many sources do you have?  What are their technologies and does the integration tool support them?


    Is it just moving data from a single ERP such as Oracle EBS to Olap? When you say Olap what do you mean by that?  Are you talking Oracle Olap product or something else?  That makes a really big difference of course - if your ETL tool doesn't support your source(s) and target(s) then it shouldn't be considered.


    Given the industry's trajectory, I myself would highly prioritize PaaS solutions over others.

    Yeap Jiun Aing - PeerSpot reviewerYeap Jiun Aing
    Real User

    What is the OLAP that you are using? Hosted in Cloud or on-premise? 


    The target DB should have its tool to extract data.

    Efe Dagistanli - PeerSpot reviewerEfe Dagistanli
    User

    Pentaho is a really nice tool if opensource is the only option. 


    Please think about issues such as upgrade and disaster in the future. These operations are very easy in Pentaho.


    I can only suggest one thing for replication and that is Qlik. (ex-Attunity).

    RajneeshShukla - PeerSpot reviewerRajneeshShukla
    Real User

    Hi Karoly, Thanks for your input. community: forums.pentaho.com is not allowing new registrations for new users. I guess they accept queries from customers only and not from any one. Do you know any other forum, community, SMEs contacts who can help on queries?

    Questions from the Community
    Top Answer:Hi Rajneesh yes here is the feature comparison between the community and enterprise edition :… more »
    Top Answer: In my opinion, the reporting side of this tool needs serious improvements. In my previous company, we worked with Hitachi Lumada Data Integration and while it does a good job for what it’s worth, it… more »
    Top Answer:My company has used this product to transform data from databases, CSV files, and flat files. It really does a good job. We were most satisfied with the results in terms of how many people could use… more »
    Top Answer:The product's integration with PostgreSQL and Jira has been helpful for us. Its performance is good. However, we do not use it for large data sets.
    Top Answer:Due to using the open-source version of Talend Data Integration, which lacks a scheduler, our current approach involves developing jobs in Talend, exporting them as Java packages, and utilizing an… more »
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    Hitachi Lumada Data Integration, Kettle, Pentaho Data Integration
    Talend Cloud Integration, Talend Integration Cloud, Talend Cloud Remote Engine for AWS
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    Overview

    Pentaho Data Integration stands as a versatile platform designed to cater to the data integration and analytics needs of organizations, regardless of their size. This powerful solution is the go-to choice for businesses seeking to seamlessly integrate data from diverse sources, including databases, files, and applications. Pentaho Data Integration facilitates the essential tasks of cleaning and transforming data, ensuring it's primed for meaningful analysis. With a wide array of tools for data mining, machine learning, and statistical analysis, Pentaho Data Integration empowers organizations to glean valuable insights from their data. What sets Pentaho Data Integration apart is its maturity and a vibrant community of users and developers, making it a reliable and cost-effective option. Pentaho Data Integration offers a range of features, including a comprehensive ETL toolkit, data cleaning and transformation capabilities, robust data analysis tools, and seamless deployment options for data integration and analytics solutions, making it a go-to solution for organizations seeking to harness the power of their data.

    Talend Data Integration is a powerful solution that enables integration with various databases, including Salesforce, SAP, and Oracle, to build business logic and provide reporting. It offers TMC (for creating sub-admins, which are useful for organizations with multiple applications using Talend), profiling, and project creation. The cloud solution also provides automated upgrades, while on-premises solutions require manual upgrades. 

    Talend Cloud Integration has helped organizations by allowing teams to use remote engine concept on AWS, spin up their job servers, process their own data on the cloud, and seamlessly integrate cloud-to-cloud environments.

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    Buyer's Guide
    Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs. Talend Data integration
    March 2024
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    Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is ranked 15th in Data Integration with 48 reviews while Talend Data integration is ranked 23rd in Cloud Data Integration with 4 reviews. Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is rated 8.0, while Talend Data integration is rated 8.0. The top reviewer of Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics writes "It's flexible and can do almost anything I want it to do". On the other hand, the top reviewer of Talend Data integration writes "Very affordable and on par with much more expensive solutions". Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is most compared with SSIS, Azure Data Factory, Talend Open Studio, Oracle Data Integrator (ODI) and AWS Glue, whereas Talend Data integration is most compared with Talend Open Studio, SAP Cloud Platform, Oracle Data Integrator (ODI), AWS Glue and Microsoft Azure Logic Apps. See our Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs. Talend Data integration report.

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