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We performed a comparison between Avolution ABACUS and erwin Data Modeler by Quest based on real PeerSpot user reviews.

Find out in this report how the two Architecture Management solutions compare in terms of features, pricing, service and support, easy of deployment, and ROI.

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Pros
"There are plenty of features available such as the ability to test applications for issues and a user-friendly dashboard.""The product is easy to use and well-structured for the integrations we need it to make.""The ease of modeling and the ease of showing interconnectivity and relationships is the most valuable. It is fairly simple and out of the box. It is customizable in many ways. It is a pretty good tool.""Scalable and stable tool for roadmapping and modeling, with a good dashboard, end-to-end impact analysis, and portfolio management.""There are a lot of different features, but the business/decision-maker feature, visibility, and dashboards are most valuable.""The technical support is very good. They are responsive and the answers they provide are detailed.""It's more than just an enterprise architecture tool as it has a lot of nice features, e.g. messaging, simulation, etc."

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"It allows us to create logical data models. We can represent a database model in business terms, which is very useful for us.""The most valuable features are the ability to reverse engineer and do model comparison. With the reverse engineering, I can understand the databases from third-party products. With the model comparison, I can track the differences between two versions of the same database.""The generation of DDL saved us having to write the steps by hand. You still had to go in and make some minor modifications to make it deployable to the database system. However, for the data lineage, it is very valuable for tracing our use of data, especially personal confidential data through different systems.""It supports a wide variety of databases, including the latest ones. We have chosen to go for a cloud-based database, and it supports that, which is very useful.""The modeling portion of the tool is the most valuable. There are some notes, naming standards, and other functions that we use as well. There's a whole boatload of functionality in this thing and we use maybe 10% of it. It seems to be pretty common that not all the functionality is fully utilized. But it's just got gobs and gobs of stuff that you can implement if you so choose to.""The logical model gives developers, as well as the data modelers, an understanding of exactly how each object interacts with the others, whether a one-to-many, many-to-many, many-to-one, etc.""There is absolutely no problem with the stability.""They have a lot of features and the most up-to-date technology integration, which I haven't seen in other products."

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Cons
"Their local presence in the Middle East could be scaled more, particularly in customer service. It would be good if they'd also have mobile dashboards for executive management out of the box.""In the future, there could be improvements in integration and enhancements.""It doesn't have the simulation capability, which would be helpful in doing some business process analysis and improvements.""They should take more initiative to implement things that competing products have already come out with.""The company needs to update the UML version they are using for the product as it is quite old.""Having more control over page size is lacking in this product. Print utilization also needs to be improved.""I use reference models, which are taxonomies, in my EA work. It is a reference model/taxonomy of things with capabilities, sub capabilities, and sub-sub capabilities, so you're working it down. I haven't yet found a simple way to implement that in Abacus. It could be that it is there, but I don't know how to do it."

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"I still use Visio for conceptual modeling, and that's mainly because it is easier to change things, and you can relax some of the rules. DM's eventual target is a database, which means you actually have to dot all the Is and cross all the Ts, but in a conceptual model, you don't often know what you're working with. So, that's probably a constraint with erwin. They have made it a lot easier, and they've done a lot, but there is probably still room for improvement in terms of the ease of presentation back to the business. I'm comparing it with something like Visio where you can change colors on a box, change the text color and that sort of stuff, and change the lines. Such things are a whole lot easier in Visio, but once you get a theme organized in erwin, you can apply that theme to all of the objects. So, it becomes easier, but you do have to set up that theme.""In terms of new features, it would be great to have a cloud base. We should be able to put it on the cloud for better collaboration and data models sharing.""I would like to have more data sources from other, different vendors. In recent years, the vendor has reduced the number of data sources, and I would like to have more data sources for every brand. For example, with Oracle, I would like to have compatibility for many versions, including old ones, not just the most recent.""This is a very complex product.""I am not so happy with its speed. Sometimes, it can have problems with connections.""The navigation is a little bit of a challenge. It's painful. For example, if you've got a view open and you want to try to move from side to side, the standard today is being able to drag and drop left and right. You can't really do that in the model. Moving around the model is painful because it doesn't follow the Windows model today.""The erwin Data Modeler is quite complex to use.""The only real complaint I have is the time it takes to do a database comparison on a large model. If they could speed that up, that would be the only thing I can think of that needs improvement."

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Pricing and Cost Advice
  • "It is competitive. It is not chump change. I am just using the studio version. I am not using the full enterprise version, which would probably cost me three times more for single-use, but it gives a lot more capability and analysis. It is server-based as well, and it is reasonably priced compared to a lot of the other tools. There are other tools that have other sorts of capabilities, but in order to use them, you'd really have to have like 50 users for the price to become justifiable."
  • "There is a subscription for this solution. We are on an annual subscription because you sometimes receive special offers the longer you subscribe."
  • "I'm paying on a yearly basis. I don't know whether it's a highly expensive tool or not. I'm getting a single version of it, and I don't have the enterprise part on it because I don't need the server component, and I don't need a web browser component. My estimate would be that it's a very reasonably priced tool given that you don't need to have licenses with everyone in order to get the information and the decision support capabilities out of the tool. You use the enterprise edition on top of the studio, which is the heart of the tool. I am not aware of any additional costs."
  • "The cost of Avolution ABACUS is reasonable, given the features they offer in comparison to other tools."
  • "The pricing is quite good compared to the competition and it is part of the reason we chose the product."
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  • "The price should be lower in order to be on the same level as its competitors."
  • "I wish it wasn't so expensive. I would love to personally buy a copy of my own and have it at home, because the next job that I'm looking at is probably project management and I might not have access to the tool. I would like to keep my ability to use the tool. Therefore, they should probably have a pricing for people like me who want to just use the solution as an independent consultant, trying to get started. $3,000 is a big hit."
  • "There are no costs in addition to the standard licensing fees."
  • "I don't specifically know what we're paying now. About three years ago, in another organization, I have this memory of 6,000 AUD a seat or something like that, but I am not sure. In the mid-2000s, it was something like 1,200 AUD a seat. I get the impression that there was a price jump when it was spun off from CA as a separate company, which is understandable, but it could sometimes be a barrier in some organizations picking it up. I haven't talked to erwin people yet, but I'm going to suggest to them that they could perhaps think of having an entry-level product that is priced a bit lower, and then, you can buy the extra suite."
  • "The price of erwin Data Modeler is very expensive, in particular for this part of the world."
  • "erwin is expensive compared to other solutions. We are paying almost $6,000 per seat a month."
  • "erwin has this option where you pay a one-time fee and you have the license for six years, which makes sense because I don't upgrade my database engine every other year. I have an application that depends on it. This is something weird about PowerDesigner. There are no additional costs beyond the standard licensing fee."
  • "Pricing is very high compared to any other product."
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    Questions from the Community
    Top Answer:There are plenty of features available such as the ability to test applications for issues and a user-friendly dashboard.
    Top Answer:There is a subscription for this solution. We are on an annual subscription because you sometimes receive special offers the longer you subscribe.
    Top Answer:In the future, there could be improvements in integration and enhancements. A few important enhancements I would like to see would be advanced analytical reports, collective analysis, and real-time… more »
    Top Answer:The logical model gives developers, as well as the data modelers, an understanding of exactly how each object interacts with the others, whether a one-to-many, many-to-many, many-to-one, etc.
    Top Answer:We always had a problem keeping track of all the licenses. All of a sudden you might get a message that your license expired and you didn't know, and it happens at different times. At GM Finance, they… more »
    Top Answer:A sorely needed enhancement to the erwin DM API is the ability to CLOSE a session. We use the API to automate tasks and every session has to be manually closed either in the Mart Admin console or the… more »
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    Overview

    ABACUS is the enterprise architecture tool designed to have the quickest time-to-value. You can use it to build and maintain rich visual models from existing company data. ABACUS comes with standard industry frameworks as well as advanced analytic tools and best-in-class roadmapping and reporting functionality.

    With Avolution ABACUS You Can:

    • Strategize and analyze your organizational architecture with ease using data-driven diagrams
    • Enjoy connected data, models, and metrics across your whole enterprise
    • Work directly and securely in your browser, which is ideal for global teams and remote working

    Avolution ABACUS Features:

    • Modeling and roadmapping: ABACUS offers a fully provisioned modeling environment for enterprise and IT architecture, strategic planning, and digital business management.
    • Digital collaboration: Avolution ABACUS includes a feature that allows you to set up dashboards so you can tell data stories using business-friendly visualizations.
    • Portfolio management: Anyone can update their own data, which, in turn, reduces the workload of the enterprise architecture team.
    • Data-driven architecture: ABACUS’s data-driven architecture gives you the opportunity to design and automate key calculations using out-of-the-box or simple no-code algorithms.
    • Collaborative data management: Using this feature, you can save time with single sign-on (SSO) and AD Integrations; You can embed directly in MS Teams, Confluence, or other workplace social software.
    • Dynamic data visualizations: ABACUS’s graph view allows you to navigate through systems in a dynamic environment, as opposed to static diagram views.

    Avolution ABACUS Benefits:

    • Time efficient: Models and roadmaps automatically stay up-to-date, saving your organization a lot of time so you can focus on other priorities instead.
    • Centralized location: With Avolution ABACUS, you can connect all data in one place, keeping everything both consistent and accurate.
    • Full flexibility: ABACUS gives you full flexibility to adapt and configure your own metamodels with ease.
    • Complete visibility: Your whole enterprise can have visibility of the architecture through the use of digital collaboration and visually clear dashboards.
    • Machine learning: With Avolution ABACUS, you can employ machine learning to speed data management and analysis.
    • Spot dependencies: ABACUS helps your organization spot dependencies and impacts that might trip up your projects.
    • Fully customizable: Avolution ABACUS is fully customizable; Select, configure, or adapt your repository and metamodel. You can also automate metrics and analytics specific to your business.

    Reviews from Real Users:

    Andre W., Enterprise Architect at Enterprise Architecture Perspectives, says, "The most valuable feature is that it has a customizable meta-model, which is key.”

    The Lead Enterprise Domain Architects at a financial services firm feels that "The product is easy to use and well-structured for the integrations we need it to make.”

    "There are plenty of features available, such as the ability to test applications for issues and a user-friendly dashboard,” says Suresh T., Enterprise Digital Solution Architect at a tech services company.

    erwin pioneered data modeling, and erwin Data Modeler (erwin DM) remains trusted, award-winning software for data modeling and database design, automating complex and time-consuming tasks. Use it to discover and document any data from anywhere for consistency, clarity and artifact reuse across large-scale data integration, master data management, metadata management, Big Data, business intelligence and analytics initiatives – all while supporting data governance and intelligence efforts.

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    Barclays
     Premera, America Honda Motors, Aetna, Kaiser Permanente, Dental Dental Cali, Cigna, Staples
    Top Industries
    VISITORS READING REVIEWS
    Computer Software Company15%
    Financial Services Firm13%
    Government12%
    Comms Service Provider11%
    REVIEWERS
    Financial Services Firm26%
    Insurance Company26%
    Government16%
    Logistics Company11%
    VISITORS READING REVIEWS
    Financial Services Firm20%
    Computer Software Company16%
    Government9%
    Insurance Company7%
    Company Size
    REVIEWERS
    Small Business23%
    Midsize Enterprise23%
    Large Enterprise54%
    VISITORS READING REVIEWS
    Small Business13%
    Midsize Enterprise17%
    Large Enterprise70%
    REVIEWERS
    Small Business35%
    Midsize Enterprise3%
    Large Enterprise61%
    VISITORS READING REVIEWS
    Small Business14%
    Midsize Enterprise11%
    Large Enterprise76%
    Buyer's Guide
    Avolution ABACUS vs. erwin Data Modeler by Quest
    September 2022
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    Avolution ABACUS is ranked 5th in Architecture Management with 6 reviews while erwin Data Modeler by Quest is ranked 2nd in Architecture Management with 17 reviews. Avolution ABACUS is rated 8.0, while erwin Data Modeler by Quest is rated 8.8. The top reviewer of Avolution ABACUS writes "Offers comprehensive product features; setup is straightforward and self configuring". On the other hand, the top reviewer of erwin Data Modeler by Quest writes "Improves accuracy for generating target databases, allows us to pull metadata from a database, and makes it easy to display information and models". Avolution ABACUS is most compared with Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect, LeanIX, MEGA HOPEX, BiZZdesign HoriZZon and iServer, whereas erwin Data Modeler by Quest is most compared with SAP PowerDesigner, IDERA ER/Studio, Visio, Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect and LeanIX. See our Avolution ABACUS vs. erwin Data Modeler by Quest report.

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