Infrastructure Expert at a manufacturing company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Vendor
2014-06-26T04:28:47Z
Jun 26, 2014
We have been using HP Blade for a large environment (800+ VM) Successfully for some years now but if I was to buy all new I would check vBlock or Flexpod solutions.
I would say to use HP Blades..........I have been using it and getting excellent technical and customer support for it. Also, these days, everything is scalable on hardware level too.
A system that we are looking at it is the Dell VRTX, it is a small enclosure that can fit four blades and includes shared storage. We are an SMB and many of the dedicated SANs are overkill and over priced for our usage. We have a total of 44 vms across 3 hosts using ESX 5.1 currently but not using blades. I've posted i link to the VRTX below. Good luck.
http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/poweredge-vrtx/pd
Well it depends on the environment and your needs. ie: budget and users supported.
Vmware has a HCL which you can go against. I personally line HP Proliant DL or ML series with 32 -64 Gb and mirrored 100 GB Flash Disk for VMware
use ISCSI w at least 4-6 NICS or 10gb FC
Sales Engineer at a tech consulting company with 11-50 employees
Real User
2014-04-10T19:46:55Z
Apr 10, 2014
For pure ESXi, I recommend the HP blades with internal ssd for use with vflash. This also works great in 5.5 to boost application performance (learned first-hand). The storage is a little trickier without knowing the proposed workloads. Tintri is what my team has used in the past and seems to be favored when it comes to storage designed for Virtualization. Their new vsan product looks like a good alternative to an external SAN (for small deployments) #2cents.
Consultant at a tech services company with 501-1,000 employees
Consultant
2014-04-10T15:00:24Z
Apr 10, 2014
Way too many unanswered questions. How many guests will there be? How much usable storage is needed. There are different levels of storage appliances that can meet certain criteria. For example, HP has a small size device (Lefthand or MSA). Then you can get into larger appliances like the 3 PAR.
I personally like HP blades, but it depends what model that will meet your needs. Without doing assessments, it is really hard to give a specific option.
ctSanders has touched on a lot of the other questions as well.
I am assuming since you want blades you have a large environment? If you only need a couple of hosts, maybe rack mount servers could be an option as well. It is not cost effective if you only use half an enclosure for blades.
Partner at a tech services company with 51-200 employees
Reseller
2014-04-10T12:17:52Z
Apr 10, 2014
Then I have a question for you before we start answering that question:
Do you have a list of requirements for this endeavor, such as processor speed, disk speed, latency, will there be databases installed on the application, budget/costs? But not only that, what are your storage requirements (IOPS, Speed of disks, replication, vmotion requirements), also, what are the network requirements because you may be looking for NICs that run at 10G or 40G speeds?
There are systems out there to help such as:
• Vblock
• HP Moonshot
• Dell Blade servers
• HP Blade Servers
Hi community,
Currently, I'm researching these three products which I want to compare in the Cloud Computing category:
VMware vSphere
Rackspace OpenStack
HPE Eucalyptus.
Can you please help me understand the main advantages and disadvantages of each?
Thanks.
Snr. Infrastructure Architect (Data Centre) at DHA
Nov 23, 2021
Both are VMWare products.
simply v-sphere is a hypervisor Tier-1 technology stack
VMWare workstation is a desktop release installed on windows or Linux OS
if your requirement is limited need few VMs for testing purpose you can go for Workstation.
but if you need production VMs you need a separate independent hardware server for v-sphere esxi hypervisor.
VM Workstation’s setup is so easy, you can use it almost instantly, it works well with Windows and Linux. We like VM Workstation primarily to test environments to determine how well a solution will work before we put it into production. VM Workstation can also give us an idea of the issues we can anticipate and how best to address them. This solution is also great at creating labs for our team when working on certifications.
VM Workstation can be a bit clunky, though. There is a lot of resource consumption and the overall performance could be a bit more effective. Visio stencil for technical documentation would be a nice improvement. This solution is relatively expensive..
VMware vSphere is very good from a recoverability point of view; everything can be stored much easier on a virtual server than a physical one. VMware vSphere is very good with memory sharing between VMs and CPU scheduling between VMs. The command-line tools integrate well with Microsoft products, so it’s easy to manipulate them. VMware vSphere is very stable and very scalable.
The initial setup with VMware vSphere can be a bit complex. You need to have a good understanding of VMware. This solution does not permit hard partitioning. We found there were occasional bugs and errors and that the HTML5 is not up to par. The pricing and licensing options can get expensive.
Conclusion:
The two solutions are both VMware and perform amazingly. They are dependable and very reliable.
VM vSphere is a hypervisor and is created for large-scale production. VM Workstation is best as a test environment, although many choose to use VM Workstation in front of VM vSphere and migrate test projects, results, and data documentation to VM vSphere.
We have been using HP Blade for a large environment (800+ VM) Successfully for some years now but if I was to buy all new I would check vBlock or Flexpod solutions.
I would say to use HP Blades..........I have been using it and getting excellent technical and customer support for it. Also, these days, everything is scalable on hardware level too.
A system that we are looking at it is the Dell VRTX, it is a small enclosure that can fit four blades and includes shared storage. We are an SMB and many of the dedicated SANs are overkill and over priced for our usage. We have a total of 44 vms across 3 hosts using ESX 5.1 currently but not using blades. I've posted i link to the VRTX below. Good luck.
http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/poweredge-vrtx/pd
Well it depends on the environment and your needs. ie: budget and users supported.
Vmware has a HCL which you can go against. I personally line HP Proliant DL or ML series with 32 -64 Gb and mirrored 100 GB Flash Disk for VMware
use ISCSI w at least 4-6 NICS or 10gb FC
Storage NImble Netapp or EMC work best
Hope this helps.
Michael La-B
For pure ESXi, I recommend the HP blades with internal ssd for use with vflash. This also works great in 5.5 to boost application performance (learned first-hand). The storage is a little trickier without knowing the proposed workloads. Tintri is what my team has used in the past and seems to be favored when it comes to storage designed for Virtualization. Their new vsan product looks like a good alternative to an external SAN (for small deployments) #2cents.
Way too many unanswered questions. How many guests will there be? How much usable storage is needed. There are different levels of storage appliances that can meet certain criteria. For example, HP has a small size device (Lefthand or MSA). Then you can get into larger appliances like the 3 PAR.
I personally like HP blades, but it depends what model that will meet your needs. Without doing assessments, it is really hard to give a specific option.
ctSanders has touched on a lot of the other questions as well.
I am assuming since you want blades you have a large environment? If you only need a couple of hosts, maybe rack mount servers could be an option as well. It is not cost effective if you only use half an enclosure for blades.
I like the Dell solution.
I forgot, Cisco has a UCS platform as well.
Todd
Then I have a question for you before we start answering that question:
Do you have a list of requirements for this endeavor, such as processor speed, disk speed, latency, will there be databases installed on the application, budget/costs? But not only that, what are your storage requirements (IOPS, Speed of disks, replication, vmotion requirements), also, what are the network requirements because you may be looking for NICs that run at 10G or 40G speeds?
There are systems out there to help such as:
• Vblock
• HP Moonshot
• Dell Blade servers
• HP Blade Servers
It really just depends
Please advise.
Todd
IBM HS23.