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2018-10-24T14:07:00Z
Julia Frohwein - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Director of Delivery at PeerSpot (formerly IT Central Station)
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What needs improvement with Lenovo ThinkSystem Rack Servers?

Please share with the community what you think needs improvement with Lenovo ThinkSystem Rack Servers.

What are its weaknesses? What would you like to see changed in a future version?

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SR
Pre-sale and Post-sale Engineer at a reseller with 201-500 employees
Real User
Top 5Leaderboard
2021-02-18T16:59:15Z
18 February 21

Its price could be better. Its price is sometimes an issue for our clients. XClarity Controller is a very good feature, and Lenovo should include the XClarity Controller license without any additional cost. It should be integrated within the product.

Aldo Abril - PeerSpot reviewer
CTO at Caja Paita
Real User
Top 10
2021-01-14T22:41:55Z
14 January 21

It should have tools for integration with the cloud. We should be able to transmit data from our on-premises server to the servers in the cloud.

Markus Waldmann - PeerSpot reviewer
Lecturer at HSLU
Real User
Top 5
2020-11-29T05:34:49Z
29 November 20

It is quite an expensive product. Its price can be improved.

Markus Waldmann - PeerSpot reviewer
Lecturer at HSLU
Real User
Top 5
2020-11-26T16:43:48Z
26 November 20

There are so many features, it's difficult to even use them all. Therefore, I don't believe there are any features that are lacking. From our side, our budgets are really not there. The availability of cash is a little bit limited. We buy as much as we can, If it was less expensive, we could buy more.

Farrokh Farrokh - PeerSpot reviewer
CEO at a tech vendor with 11-50 employees
Reseller
Top 10
2020-11-22T15:44:35Z
22 November 20

HP has a riser inside, but Lenovo does not have a riser. It would be good to have a riser with Lenovo. The GUI of the system is really bad. HP has a very good UI for smart memories and everything inside, but in Lenovo, we have a black-and-white UI. HP right now manufactures a server with scalable SP1 and SP2 on a single machine, which is not the case with Lenovo. They are changing the machine. For SP 1, there is one server, and for SP2, there is another server, which is really bad. In HP, we can use two models of processors in a single case. Lenovo should also be improved to have SP1 and SP2 scalable processors simultaneously on a single machine. They should not release another machine. This issue is also there in H3650 severs. They are all inside, but only V3 CPU or only v4 CPU can work, whereas, in HBG9, we can deploy V3 and V4 simultaneously. Lenovo also needs to advertise more because I can't see advertisements anywhere.

Oleksandr Meleshchuk - PeerSpot reviewer
System Administrator at a manufacturing company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
Top 5
2020-10-28T13:27:21Z
28 October 20

From my perspective, from my case usage, I wouldn't say that I have seen a lot of space for a general upgrade of the system. The technology is constantly developing. It's just a matter of the client or customer getting the most high-end service for a long period of time — for example, one or two years. In three years, this technology will be old and there will be new technology available. Presently, I wouldn't say that there is space for much improvement on the current servers. Technology is developing continuously. We are getting new high-end drives and so on. Technology development does not simply stop in its tracks, waiting until you adopt that server right now — in three to five years, it will be obsolete. You will be still able to buy some hardware in order to upgrade it because the platform itself is universal, but it's up to you whether you buy something old or something new and upgrade it.

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RN
IT/OT Project Manager and IT/OT Architect at a energy/utilities company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
2018-10-24T14:07:00Z
24 October 18

The management troubles us a bit. We also had some issues getting VMware to run on the Lenovo servers. We were told to go to HP but we stuck with Lenovo. I would like to see the management port improved. We do use XClarity, which is from Lenovo, but it still needs an upgrade. It is difficult to work with and it would be beneficial for Lenovo to improve this.

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Dovid Gelber - PeerSpot reviewer
Tech blogger
21 November 21
Our organization ran comparison tests to determine whether the Dell EMC Poweredge or Lenovo Thinksystem rack servers were the better fit for us. We ultimately decided to go with Dell EMC Poweredge. This solution offers users an AI-powered system that provides not only cutting-edge cyber security, but also in-depth analytic insight and notifications that alert administrators to any problem that may arise. The AI scans whatever is being downloaded into the system and identifies its nature before allowing it in. This provides a layer of defense that reduces the possibility of malware or viruses slipping by due to human error. It also spots ongoing issues that may exist within the framework of the system. This AI identifies the problems that plague the system and sends users alerts that they can follow up on. Instead of having to devote resources to finding issues, Dell EMC Poweredge will do it for you and free up resources to solve the problems before they become worse. Lenovo Thinksystem rack servers lack the kind of AI augmented security and notifications that Dell EMC Poweredge offers. There is no option for the server to scan for issues or create notifications if they arise. It is a very traditional sort of server that is not on the cutting edge as far as cyber security is concerned. If you choose to use it, you will have to have dedicated teams to keep an eye out for security issues. Dell EMC Poweredge provides organizations that employ it with excellent documentation that makes the product easy to use. Every system option comes with an explanation as to what it is and how to employ it. This shows that Dell EMC Poweredge considered users’ ease of use when creating this product. Lenovo Thinksystem rack servers do offer a certain ease of use. While certain processes such as upgrading the system may be relatively easy to do, there is no documentation offering a breakdown of the system options. This lack of explanation means that time and resources will have to be devoted to learning the ins and outs of the system. Conclusion Both Dell EMC Poweredge and Lenovo Thinksystem rack servers offer products that can do the jobs that they are needed for. However, Dell’s AI security analytics and thorough documentation make it by far the more effective product.
it_user828861 - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Planner/Purchaser with 1-10 employees
Mar 06, 2018
Looking to understand the market for rack servers and blade servers a little better.  I'm considering investing in an existing reseller but looking to better understand the market.
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Bob Whitcombe - PeerSpot reviewer
Technical Sales Architect at a tech services company with 501-1,000 employees
06 March 18
For rack servers you have two paths - Large Vendor support and White box. In the White Box market you can save a few dollars and build your own - but then self insure, as all subsequent issues with software and driver incompatibilities and problems are on you. This is a small ball play and is worth considering if you have extra time to diddle the bits and bytes yourself, do the testing and don't have to interact with a lot of users, developers and management. If you are responsible for managing a larger shop you need to go with a major vendor and have four choices - in alphabetical order - Cisco, Dell, HPE and Lenovo. As we look forward in the rack and blade server evolution, the hardware is a commodity dictated by Intel and all vendors release cadence is tied to Intel releases. But you have rapidly come to realize the hardware is the least of your concerns, you are much more focused on software and how these vendors are evolving their solutions to increase automation efficiency, reduce setup time and increase time to repair in the event of a complex software failure. Of the 4 I like the direction Cisco is taking with its SW acquisitions in this space. It has deployed Stealthwatch for security, Tetration for Analytics, Turbonomics for workload optimization and App Dynamics for adaptive automation. This and its investment in cloud services and focus on the hybrid cloud environment, keeps them looking beyond the hardware - which is less than 30% of the IT cost of a system - and squarely focused on reducing the OpEx costs that account for 70%. Moving forward into the great Utility computing model - with some pieces offsite at a colo, some onsite in local wiring closets or a mini data center or some compute and storage in a major cloud provider - Amazon, Azure, Rackspace, etc - you are rapidly moving to a hybrid environment where the latency of network connections, middleware that provides connectors to far flung operations that respond back to end-users creates a complex scenario where monitoring. measurement and protection will determine how efficiently I can deliver services and provide the end-user experience my customers demand. That said let me be clear this is not a full-on rah-rah section for Cisco. They have a superior vision, a unique architecture that facilitates automation in their blade environment, the cash and focus on acquisitions. I just wish they were faster at providing the integrations that will deliver on the seamless solution space they imagine. But they have many great pieces - and if I were a person seeking to understand this market and where things are headed I would pay close attention to their concept of the "Intent-based Data Center". This vision is similar to IBM's Utility Computing from more than a decade ago - but Cisco has more critical pieces - all around commodity hardware.
it_user188481 - PeerSpot reviewer
Network Admin at a healthcare company with 501-1,000 employees
06 March 18
You know, it really depends. How many people are you supporting? What's your budget? Is it replacing something that may need data migrated? What kind of support will you need afterwards? What applications do you need to run and how long can you afford for the application to be offline in the case of system going down?
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