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2014-06-17T00:37:00Z
it_user114933 - PeerSpot reviewer
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Netapp vs Dell EqualLogic vs others. Which is the best value plus cost effective support?

Netapp vs Dell Equallogic vs others:

Which storage vendor provides the best SAN value for money plus cost effective support?

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it_user127542 - PeerSpot reviewer
Apps, Database & Storage Team Leader with 51-200 employees
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2014-06-18T11:14:29Z
18 June 14

Hi, I agree with the feed back above. I have recently been involved in a lengthy project to review all SAN vendors on the market (both Generic and new Hybrid/Flash) and they basically all do the same thing. Some vendors have a few niche technologies/support here and there. It all comes down to what SAN technology is critical to your business/project i.e. DR, Think clones etc. and also the budget available to you. I found that doing a matrix of the critical 'functions' for your company and ticking them off against each SAN vendor to be very helpful in the final decision making process.

I would suggest that you talk to the various SAN vendors, ask for demo's and more importantly ask for reference sites. I found the reference sites to be very useful as they tell you want the SAN vendor sales people don't.

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IT Administrator at a comms service provider with 501-1,000 employees
Vendor
2014-06-17T17:12:13Z
17 June 14

Hi, as Trevor says all are excellent products, but you have to know which one is that fits your project. Because maybe you don´t need the top brand product (size, IOPS) also you have to be aware for the cost for future growth, you can ask your service provider or professional services to help you consider future growth so you can have a complete picture.

We have been working with HP 3PAR, VNX and Netapp and all of this storages have a very good support, options and demos.

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Sales at a tech services company
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2014-06-17T10:01:40Z
17 June 14

Dell Equallogic very cost effective, block storage, iSCSI attached only very good support and demos available
Nettapp block and file lots of sw options like Equallogic but multi protocol attach demos available
HP 3PAR most efficient block multi protocol attach demos available
IBMStorwize Range can include block and file external virtualisation
EMC VNXe block and file demos available
All are excellent products all with excellent support the question to be addressed is actually what the storage is required for? What is the user skilll set? Happy to discuss further by telephone, or email.

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When it comes to changing to other storage fabrics (from SCSI to NVMe) or reaching out to other transport layers (ethernet, infiniband or FC), all units once initialised only operate with the modules installed at initialisation time.  So you better define which type of fabric, performance requiremenets you need, and what transport layer(s) and protocols you need and what your current infra supports. Some are more expensive than others. FC is for sure more expensive then ethernet based fabrics, though its  far more secure, as it does not use IP and therefore storage traffic is completely isolated from your network/IP stack. The same goes for low latency storage networks operating under Infiniband, which come in more expensive due to proprietary switches and Infiniband NICs Nowadays, it's about the time to really consider NVMe and decide upon which type of fabric suits your needs. You have FC NVMe, NVMe TCP, NVMe (iWarp), NVMe (Infiniband), and NVMe Rocky (ROCev1/v2).  In the strict sense choosing any of the fabric options excludes the other one. NVMe is about 30% more expensive than traditional SSD/SAS (SCSI) based Storage that has been out till now which is compared to its gains worth it. If you really have big elephants bursting data to your storage, you definately require NVMe storage, higher bandwidth and a more efficient transport layer (RDMA or Remote Direct Memory access) or FC NVMe.  FC still uses the same transport layer as back in 1990 and only needed to accomodate the NVMe Protocol, whereas all ethernet based fabrics had to cover both aspects and all of which might be subject to changes in the future. So the story of NVMe OF (over Fabric) is not final and nor are the choices. Some might perform better over time, as the struggle is no longer about the SSD media and NVMe protocol, but the performance differences are now in the transport layer. Still the advances are that huge that going to NVMe is far better then buying another storage array based on SAS/SCSI.  So buying a solution is much based on where your fabric (SAN) is going to , then it is actually focussing on the array. You have to figure out which fabric combines fair costs and offers for your business fair latency/performance. The array opted for needs to support your fabric of choice that fits your business needs, from there you have the scale up/out topic related to storage arrays in general. All can scale up, replace controller units with more powerfull ones etc. The one that scales out the best and actually allows to use nearly whatever backend storage is definately IBM SVC/IBM Spectrum Virtualisation. I do find the concept of DELL EMC Powerstore getting close to that, though its still locked in to the Powerstore controller units and expansions and still disallows to attach other vendor backend storage to be virtualised. 
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