Community Manager at PeerSpot (formerly IT Central Station)
Any users have experience with Veeam Backup Solutions?
Recently Veeam announced the release of their new Veeam Availability Suite -- the bundling of of their Backup and Replication product with their One virtualization management product. Any users have experience with Veeam Backup Solutions? Have you had positive experiences with them? What about other similar solutions?
Director of Business Development at a tech vendor with 201-500 employees
09 April 14
We are an EMC vendor/MSP for backup and storage solutions. The following is
some information that might assist you taken from Gartner's Magic Quadrant:
The Autonomy name, which was used in the previous iteration of this Magic
Quadrant, is replaced with HP in this update, as HP has integrated Autonomy
into its organization. This Magic Quadrant evaluates HP Data Protector, HP
Autonomy LiveVault cloud server backup and HP Autonomy Connected Backup
endpoint backup, although the emphasis is primarily on server backup. HP
StoreOnce appliances are not evaluated for this Magic Quadrant; however,
they are considered in the breadth of HP's data protection portfolio, and
the StoreOnce deduplication technology is factored into the overall
Data Protector is available globally from HP direct sales and a wide
variety of HP partners and is often aggressively priced relative to other
enterprise solutions. HP has been focusing on integrating Data Protector
with StoreOnce deduplication technologies and appliances, as well as with
its current flagship array 3PAR. It offers solid traditional backup and
recovery functionality, such as synthetic full and virtual full backups. In
the June 2013 release, HP revamped the Data Protector server architecture
to make it much more scalable (able to handle 1 trillion filenames). HP was
early in delivering snapshot integration and automation via its Zero
Downtime Backup and Instant Recovery capabilities, which support HP, EMC
and NetApp storage array snapshot and replication. HP's internally
developed deduplication technology -- StoreOnce -- is offered as part of Data
Protector 7 and above for client- and server-side deduplication, as well as
for what the company calls "Catalyst-based replication," an API that
enables Data Protector to control movement of deduplicated data across the
enterprise without the need for rehydration. Data Protector can move data
from StoreOnce appliances to tape and manage appliance replication. Data
Protector provides agent-based granular restore for Microsoft Exchange and
SharePoint in physical and virtual environments.
HP has also started integration work between Data Protector and the
Autonomy Intelligent Data Operating Layer (IDOL), a common information
management platform for structured and unstructured information that
provides conceptual understanding of information. With Data Protector 7's
initial integration, IDOL can place a legal hold on a backup copy, index
the backup dataset and provide search capabilities. Although IDOL can
elevate backup datasets from inactive status to active use cases, HP will
be challenged to translate value and benefit statements to traditional
backup and recovery buyers.
HP inherited cloud backup solutions from Iron Mountain (whose digital
assets were acquired by Autonomy), and LiveVault provides midsize
organizations and ROBOs with WAN-optimized, deduplicated backup to the
LiveVault cloud, as well as WAN-efficient delta restore. Its Connected
services offer customers a cloud-based and on-premises endpoint backup
solution with proven large scalability. Both LiveVault and Connected are
integrated with IDOL for legal hold and contextual search. However,
LiveVault needs to improve its scalability to meet larger customers' desire
to leverage the cloud, and Connected also needs technology enhancements,
such as near-CDP support and more granular block-level source-side
deduplication (beyond its current file-based single-instance capability) to
be more competitive in the market.
- HP customers can use the same StoreOnce code for source-side,
server-side and target-side deduplication, without data hydration when
performing data replication. Customers commented favorably on the
deduplication ratio this technology offers.
- Customers generally enjoy the simpler and less expensive pricing model
for Data Protector compared with offerings from some competitors.
- HP has extensive experience providing cloud backup services with
LiveVault and Connected and offers many secure cloud data centers across
- Although Data Protector can manage StoreOnce appliances' replication
and node failover, some customers cite their need for an integrated GUI
with the same level of granular reporting.
- LiveVault targets mostly small backup environments and is mostly
adopted for the Windows environment.
- For customers who are looking for an integration solution for both
on-premises and cloud backup, Data Protector's integration with LiveVault
cloud backup is still a work in progress and has limited capabilities.
Symantec has two main backup product lines: NetBackup and Backup Exec.
NetBackup and Backup Exec are market-share-leading solutions in the
enterprise and midsize enterprise segments, respectively. NetBackup is the
single largest revenue-producing product in Symantec's portfolio and in the
overall backup software market. Symantec offers solid deduplication
software, as well as a successful line of integrated backup and
deduplication appliances (note that appliances are not the focus of this
research). The Symantec OpenStorage (OST) interface allows integration with
other backup hardware solutions to be managed under one console and to
minimize data transfer. These product lines are largely different code
bases targeted at two different audiences: NetBackup at the enterprise and
Backup Exec at SMB and ROBO markets; however, in the last four years, there
has been code sharing around deduplication, virtualization, OST APIs and
Microsoft Windows, Exchange, SharePoint and SQL Server support.
Symantec launched major upgrades in 2012 to Backup Exec (version 2012) and
NetBackup (version 7.5) on the same day around the world. Backup Exec 2012
has received very mixed reviews, with many customers complaining about the
removed features and incompatibility with previously defined backup jobs.
Customer support for both products has taken a significant hit as well in
the recent past, and Gartner clients and reference checks for this research
were very vocal about this issue. Symantec's new CEO addressed these
concerns in his first quarterly earnings call, explaining that overall
product quality will be improved through enhanced testing, that Backup Exec
will get corrected, but that this will take time. He also recognized that
support needs to be improved. The CEO and executive team reorganization
from the 3Q12 appear to be making positive changes, but while references
point to the April 2013 beta of the delayed NetBackup version 7.6 as being
the most solid release to date, Backup Exec customers are approaching a
year for delayed support of the latest Windows OS and applications.
Symantec is having success with its capacity-based licensing schemes to
address historical concerns over pricing and maintenance, which have
received positive feedback from Gartner clients and references. The late
2011 and strong 2012 marketing and awareness efforts by Symantec regarding
its backup portfolio, which have continued in 2013, have been successful,
with Symantec not only defending its installed base better, but also
winning an increasing amount of new deals for NetBackup.
With NetBackup version 7.5 released in 2012, product functionality is
catching up to the marketing, and the new features are resonating in the
marketplace, while also providing customers and prospects with confidence
regarding the future road map. NetBackup improvements to its OpsCenter have
been highlighted by customers as being very positive. Features such as
NetBackup Accelerator for very fast backups, optimized synthetic backup for
creating instant full backups, very solid VM support with robust granular
item restore support, and Automated Image Replication for backup catalog
and images across NetBackup instances and deduplication have been
well-received by the NetBackup installed base. To address recovery time
concerns in virtual environments, Symantec will also introduce an Instant
Recovery feature in version 7.6, allowing VMs to be powered on from within
the backup system, cutting restore times down to minutes.
Gartner does continue to hear customer concerns about the amount of time
required for deduplicated data to be rehydrated to physical tape and the
continued delays in version 7.6 (originally targeted for 4Q12).
- Symantec is a market share leader that offers end-to-end recovery
capabilities from single machine to the largest enterprise, to cloud
services via software or preconfigured backup appliances, and/or the
ability to better-manage third-party backup appliances.
- V-Ray technology for enhanced server virtualization support for VMware
and Hyper-V offers very robust VM support, with a number of
industry-exclusive features and capabilities. V-Ray integration with
Replication Director in version 7.6 further enhances this.
- The NetBackup Accelerator feature, first delivered in version 7.5 in
2012, reduces backup windows and will be further extended in the upcoming
version 7.6 to provide for very fast, space-efficient backups that do not
require any postprocessing roll-up of incremental backup to constitute a
new full backup.
- Customers and references have been very critical over Backup Exec code
quality and especially customer support for both Backup Exec and NetBackup.
- NetBackup Replication Director, launched in 2012 in version 7.5 and
extended in version 7.6, still has comparatively limited storage array
support and is slowly rounding out virtual and application capabilities.
- NetBackup's SharePoint agent continues to receive mixed feedback;
however, version 7.6 may have addressed this.
Product Manager at a tech services company with 501-1,000 employees
14 April 14
I have not tried HP Data Protector personally. However, Symantec Backup Exec seems to be a good product. It also seems that Acronis or Commvault are upcoming trends in replacing these traditional products.