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Question: Which ETL tool would you recommend to populate data from OLTP to OLAP?
Answer: We have experiences only in Pentaho Data Integrator (open source competitor of the Oracle Data Integrator). But OLAP exporting wasn't in our scope until now.
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"I have used Data Collector, Transformer, and Control Hub products from StreamSets. What I really like about these products is that they're very user-friendly. People who are not from a technological or core development background find it easy to get started and build data pipelines and connect to the databases. They would be comfortable like any technical person within a couple of weeks.""In StreamSets, everything is in one place.""StreamSets data drift feature gives us an alert upfront so we know that the data can be ingested. Whatever the schema or data type changes, it lands automatically into the data lake without any intervention from us, but then that information is crucial to fix for downstream pipelines, which process the data into models, like Tableau and Power BI models. This is actually very useful for us. We are already seeing benefits. Our pipelines used to break when there were data drift changes, then we needed to spend about a week fixing it. Right now, we are saving one to two weeks. Though, it depends on the complexity of the pipeline, we are definitely seeing a lot of time being saved.""It is really easy to set up and the interface is easy to use.""StreamSets’ data drift resilience has reduced the time it takes us to fix data drift breakages. For example, in our previous Hadoop scenario, when we were creating the Sqoop-based processes to move data from source to destinations, we were getting the job done. That took approximately an hour to an hour and a half when we did it with Hadoop. However, with the StreamSets, since it works on a data collector-based mechanism, it completes the same process in 15 minutes of time. Therefore, it has saved us around 45 minutes per data pipeline or table that we migrate. Thus, it reduced the data transfer, including the drift part, by 45 minutes."

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"ODI's most valuable features are it utilizes the database engine and is very lightweight.""The scalability is great. It's one of the reasons we chose the solution.""Oracle provides great documentation.""Integration with all systems is easy with Oracle Data Integrator, and it is easy to use. I have not used any other product, but with Oracle Data Integrator, we can easily connect to an ERP system, an SAP system, or a cloud application.""The most valuable features of ODI are the ease of development, you can have a template, and you can onboard transfer very quickly. There's a lot of knowledge modules available that we can use. If you want to connect, for example, a Sibyl, SQL, Oracle, or different products, we don't have to develop them from scratch. They are available, but if it's not, we can go into the marketplace and see if there's a connector there. Having the connector available reduces the amount of hard work needed. We only have to put the inputs and outputs. In some of the products, we use there is already integration available for ODI, which is helpful.""Easy to understand, very developer-friendly, and has a big forum community and lots of documentation for support."

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"I'm very passionate about this solution because if you look at any other tool that costs around $200 - $300,000, like Delphix which costs you a million dollars, Talend is very cheap and is almost is at par with what others can do. There is one thing which Delphix does which Talend cannot do, but overall, I would say apart from that, if you're looking for a solution, you should give it a try."

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"We create pipelines or jobs in StreamSets Control Hub. It is a great feature, but if there is a way to have a folder structure or organize the pipelines and jobs in Control Hub, it would be great. I submitted a ticket for this some time back.""We've seen a couple of cases where it appears to have a memory leak or a similar problem.""Currently, we can only use the query to read data from SAP HANA. What we would like to see, as soon as possible, is the ability to read from multiple tables from SAP HANA. That would be a really good thing that we could use immediately. For example, if you have 100 tables in SQL Server or Oracle, then you could just point it to the schema or the 100 tables and ingestion information. However, you can't do that in SAP HANA since StreamSets currently is lacking in this. They do not have a multi-table feature for SAP HANA. Therefore, a multi-table origin for SAP HANA would be helpful.""If you use JDBC Lookup, for example, it generally takes a long time to process data.""The logging mechanism could be improved. If I am working on a pipeline, then create a job out of it and it is running, it will generate constant logs. So, the logging mechanism could be simplified. Now, it is a bit difficult to understand and filter the logs. It takes some time."

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"An area for improvement would be the lack of SQL compatibility - ODI has no ability to interact with SQL unstructured types and data types.""It has been very good. Just recently, I've faced an issue, but I solved it somehow. While integrating with a file, I faced an issue where I wanted output files, and I had used the text field limited quotations, but at the end of the file, there was a line breakage for the last column. So, we just removed the text field because it was not working correctly for us.""The resource management aspect of the solution could be improved.""The interface of ODI could be improved. For example, navigating and finding functions can be difficult. For example, you have to know which step you need to go to look at where your job status is. The logical step is a bit complex compared to other tools. It's much easier to get a graphical view, but with ODI, it's graphical, plus you have to know all the other pieces that fit around it. You have to think about the logical and physical aspects.""The solution lacks some functions and features.""ODI could improve by being more user-friendly. Informatica, which is also an ETL tool, similar to ODI, but Informatica is very user-friendly, easy to use, and simple to integrate, compared to ODI. ODI has many features, put them all together, and sometimes we get confused about which ones to use, which ones not to use."

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"There are no concurrent licenses, they only have seat licenses on cloud. That's the whole challenge. For example, if in any project your headcount increases or decreases, you do not have that concurrence and you have a seat license, you run into challenges because you have to procure a few more licenses for getting the job done."

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Pricing and Cost Advice
  • "We are running the community version right now, which can be used free of charge."
  • "StreamSets Data Collector is open source. One can utilize the StreamSets Data Collector, but the Control Hub is the main repository where all the jobs are present. Everything happens in Control Hub."
  • "It has a CPU core-based licensing, which works for us and is quite good."
  • "There are different versions of the product. One is the corporate license version, and the other one is the open-source or free version. I have been using the corporate license version, but they have recently launched a new open-source version so that anybody can create an account and use it. The licensing cost varies from customer to customer. I don't have a lot of input on that. It is taken care of by PMO, and they seem fine with its pricing model. It is being used enterprise-wide. They seem to have got a good deal for StreamSets."
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  • "The solution is expensive because of the model they use. The cost is for the license and for support."
  • "ODI comes included when buying the cloud version of the Oracle database license."
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    Answers from the Community
    RajneeshShukla
    AThiré - PeerSpot reviewerAThiré
    User

    There are two products I know about
    * TimeXtender : Microsoft based, Transformation logic is quiet good and can easily be extended with T-SQL , Has a semantic layer that generates metat data for cubes . price approx 40K$, works with tables
    . Attunity (Bought by Qlik) : technology agnostic , nice web interface , expensive > 100K€. Works with transaction logs

    There are many other pure ETL tools
    * ERWIN has a nice one ,

    Phil Wilkins - PeerSpot reviewerPhil Wilkins (Capgemini)
    Consultant

    Depends upon the technologies being used. If you're using Oracle for both OLTP and OLAP then you'll get a lot of value from an Oracle solution.


    The other question is how up to date do you want your OLAP DB to be? Goldengate is a good answer if you're looking to minimize latency, but it can be expensive. ODI is less expensive but better suited to bulkier data sets.  If an Oracle product wasn't the option I'd probably consider something like Informatica.

    Karoly Krokovay - PeerSpot reviewerKaroly Krokovay
    Real User

    Hi Rajneesh,
    yes here is the feature comparison between the community and enterprise edition : https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/pdf/brochure/leverage-open-source-benefits-with-assurance-of-hitachi-overview.pdf

    And a short description of the community edition: https://www.predictiveanalyticstoday.com/pentaho-community-edition/

    And the download link: https://community.hitachivantara.com/s/article/downloads

    You can ask more from the great community: https://forums.pentaho.com/

    Regards
    Károly

    Stefan Schäfer - PeerSpot reviewerStefan Schäfer
    User

    We usually use Talend.
    Look here: https://community.talend.com/t5/Design-and-Development/The-way-from-OLTP-to-OLAP/td-p/116719

    GaryM - PeerSpot reviewerGaryM
    Real User

    As someone mentioned, if you're purely Oracle shop and staying that way then there's value with prioritizing Oracle tools.  However, let me contrast that with this caveat...


    Consider expectations for tool and vendor longevity. Oracle has a long history of retiring and/or replacing tools leaving customers in the cold with prior versions/tools (I've been burned multiple times by Oracle product retirements or replacements including OWB, Oracle Designer2k, Oracle Express, Oracle OEDW, their purchase of Sagent ETL which as later abandoned).


    But I would also consider these questions and relative prioritization:  


    What is your organization's plans for moving to other database technologies?  


    Where is your org going with on-prem versus cloud solutions?  How important are PaaS versus IaaS solutions?  


    Where is your current staff's expertise?  


    Prioritize mature over immature tools. 


    How many sources do you have?  What are their technologies and does the integration tool support them?


    Is it just moving data from a single ERP such as Oracle EBS to Olap? When you say Olap what do you mean by that?  Are you talking Oracle Olap product or something else?  That makes a really big difference of course - if your ETL tool doesn't support your source(s) and target(s) then it shouldn't be considered.


    Given the industry's trajectory, I myself would highly prioritize PaaS solutions over others.

    Yeap Jiun Aing - PeerSpot reviewerYeap Jiun Aing
    Real User

    What is the OLAP that you are using? Hosted in Cloud or on-premise? 


    The target DB should have its tool to extract data.

    Efe Dagistanli - PeerSpot reviewerEfe Dagistanli
    User

    Pentaho is a really nice tool if opensource is the only option. 


    Please think about issues such as upgrade and disaster in the future. These operations are very easy in Pentaho.


    I can only suggest one thing for replication and that is Qlik. (ex-Attunity).

    RajneeshShukla - PeerSpot reviewerRajneeshShukla
    Real User

    Hi Karoly, Thanks for your input. community: https://forums.pentaho.com/ is not allowing new registrations for new users. I guess they accept queries from customers only and not from any one. Do you know any other forum, community, SMEs contacts who can help on queries?

    Questions from the Community
    Top Answer:It is really easy to set up and the interface is easy to use.
    Top Answer:We've seen a couple of cases where it appears to have a memory leak or a similar problem. It grows for a bit and then… more »
    Top Answer:We typically use it to transport our Oracle raw datasets up to Microsoft Azure, and then into SQL databases there.
    Top Answer:Oracle Integration Cloud Service has a fairly easy initial setup, and Oracle offers initial support and guidance for… more »
    Top Answer:What is the OLAP that you are using? Hosted in Cloud or on-premise?  The target DB should have its tool to extract… more »
    Top Answer:I know I'm late to the party but here are my comments to this. I would ask what version of ODI are you running, but… more »
    Top Answer:I'm very passionate about this solution because if you look at any other tool that costs around $200 - $300,000, like… more »
    Top Answer:In terms of pricing, they have the concept of tokens. They give you a certain number of tokens per license. If you have… more »
    Top Answer:In terms of what could be improved, there is not much. It's a basic server setup. It all depends upon what kind of… more »
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    Overview

    StreamSets offers an end-to-end data integration platform to build, run, monitor and manage smart data pipelines that deliver continuous data for DataOps, and power the modern data ecosystem and hybrid integration.

    Only StreamSets provides a single design experience for all design patterns for 10x greater developer productivity; smart data pipelines that are resilient to change for 80% less breakages; and a single pane of glass for managing and monitoring all pipelines across hybrid and cloud architectures to eliminate blind spots and control gaps.

    With StreamSets, you can deliver the continuous data that drives the connected enterprise.

    Oracle Data Integrator (ODI) is a data integration software solution that provides a unified infrastructure to streamline data and application integration projects. It uses a powerful design approach to data integration, which separates the declarative rules from the implementation details. The solution is based on a unique ELT (Extract Load Transform) architecture, eliminating the need for a standalone ETL server and proprietary engine. 

    Oracle Data Integrator Features

    ODI has many valuable key features. Some of the most useful ones include:

    • Automatic documentation generation
    • Visualization of data flows in the interfaces
    • Customization of generated code
    • Automatic reverse-engineering of existing applications or databases
    • Graphical development and maintenance of transformation and integration interfaces
    • Robust data integrity control features, assuring the consistency and correctness of data
    • Powerful core differentiators
    • Heterogeneous ELT, declarative design and knowledge modules
    • Flexibility and modularity
    • Oracle Data Integrator repository
    • Topology navigator
    • Operator Navigator
    • Security Navigator
    • Integrator Console
    • ODI domains

    Oracle Data Integrator Benefits

    There are many benefits to implementing ODI. Some of the biggest advantages the solution offers include:

    • Efficient architecture: Oracle Data Integrator has a simple architecture that utilizes the source and target servers to perform complex transformations, making it an efficient solution.
    • Supports all platforms: ODI gives you platform independence by supporting all platforms, hardware, and OSes with the same software.
    • Cost-effective: Oracle Data Integrator reduces costs associated with initial hardware and software acquisition, and also decreases maintenance costs because it eliminates the need for an ETL Server and an ETL engine.
    • Automatic detection of faulty data: By using ODI, faulty data is recycled before insertion in the target application, providing you with a data quality firewall.
    • Easy development and maintenance: With a low learning curve, Oracle Data Integrator increases developer productivity while facilitating ongoing maintenance. 
    • Active integration: ODI includes all styles of data integration: data-based, event-based and service-based.

    Reviews from Real Users

    Below are some reviews and helpful feedback written by PeerSpot users currently using the Oracle Data Integrator (ODI) solution.

    Brian D., Business Process and Strategy Specialist Advisor at NTTData, says, “The Knowledge Module (KM) is my favorite feature of ODI. This is where I learned how to use variables to make jobs dynamic. I took that knowledge and created a KM that would go into iTunes and pull the sales of eBooks. Making something that is reusable, like a KM, is important to not only reduce build time but also maintenance in the future.”

    Ashok S., Applications Support Manager at a marketing services firm, mentions, "The most valuable features of ODI are the ease of development, you can have a template, and you can onboard transfer very quickly. There's a lot of knowledge modules available that we can use. If you want to connect, for example, a Sibyl, SQL, Oracle, or different products, we don't have to develop them from scratch. They are available, but if it's not, we can go into the marketplace and see if there's a connector there. Having the connector available reduces the amount of hard work needed. We only have to put the inputs and outputs. In some of the products, we use there is already integration available for ODI, which is helpful."

    Talend Integration Cloud (TIC) is a fully-managed cloud option. It provides the great data integration, data quality, and Big Data features from Talend in a cloud environment that is managed, monitored, maintained, and secured by Talend.

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    Oracle Data Integrator (ODI) is ranked 6th in Data Integration Tools with 8 reviews while Talend Cloud Integration is ranked 12th in Integration Platform as a Service (iPaaS) with 1 review. Oracle Data Integrator (ODI) is rated 8.4, while Talend Cloud Integration is rated 8.0. The top reviewer of Oracle Data Integrator (ODI) writes "We can make all the EPM tools work together as one and we can create a puzzle that will increase the performance and capability of all EPM tools". On the other hand, the top reviewer of Talend Cloud Integration writes "Very affordable and on par with much more expensive solutions". Oracle Data Integrator (ODI) is most compared with Oracle Integration Cloud Service, SSIS, Informatica PowerCenter, Oracle GoldenGate and Azure Data Factory, whereas Talend Cloud Integration is most compared with Microsoft Azure Logic Apps, AWS Glue, AWS Database Migration Service and Talend Open Studio.

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