Solutions Architect at a tech services company with 501-1,000 employees
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2022-10-31T17:37:36Z
Oct 31, 2022
There are many different licenses, so you pay for what you need. There are various aspects you can add on, like extra speed, or something just for reading data. There are licenses to do replication as well. You have a lot of options.
The solution is reasonably priced. We get discounts as well. They remain competitive. It's a hardware solution. We don't have to worry about software licensing. We can use any software on it that the client likes. Data Protect, DP 400, and higher models include EMC software and a set of various different software. If you buy the unit, you pay for it for three or five years. They also offer support with a warranty that you can extend.
The licensing is not cost-effective, and the pricing could be better. It is a costly solution compared to Veritas, but it has good performance, scalability and assurances.
If we do not move to the cloud solution and stay with our on-premise version we will miss some new features. I rate the price of Dell PowerProtect DD a three out of five.
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The price of the backup appliance is slightly expensive. Compared to other vendors, the pricing will be slightly higher. The backup software from Dell that you can use to operate the Data Domain is very cheap, and there are many different plans that can be purchased as a subscription or full license.
Buying Dell EMC PowerProtect DD (Data Domain), our clients don't have to pay for extra licenses. They can just buy any backup solution. For example, they can buy Dell EMC Avamar, or they can buy Symantec, Convault, etc. When buying IDPA products, you don't have to buy anything, because you'll have an integrated solution: a data domain appliance plus software, the software being Dell EMC software which is a big package of software that allows you to do everything. When buying Dell EMC PowerProtect DD (Data Domain), you can just buy a very cool backup software with deduplication, and that's all. It's very perfect, very nice. You can buy the backup software, e.g. Dell EMC, Convault, Symantec, etc. Pricing for this product could still be improved, though several years ago, its price was very high. When there are more competitors, though, the price becomes more attractive both for the customer and partner. Now we can get more discounts for projects. The price for this product will decrease, because more and more companies now produce integrated devices, e.g. deduplication is not a very new technology, but it was a feature that was limited to several market leaders.
The solution was cheap; now it's becoming more expensive. For example, if you buy it for 10 terabytes, you have to buy 10 terabyte also of software for it. It's called the capacity software. It increased our prices.
Pre-Sales and Technical Manager at a tech services company with 11-50 employees
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Top 10
2020-12-31T08:23:00Z
Dec 31, 2020
The licensing was not an issue because it is related to the software part. I'm not really sure about the price, because I think we've gotten a discount as we are partners.
The price point is high. That said, they're competing with other products like Veritas, so in that sense, the price is good, or, maybe typical. And yet, whenever we are competing with some legacy type of product, the price difference is huge. It's a premium product and so the pricing is somewhat expected. In terms of scaling, the price is difficult to pin down. IF you buy 4 terabytes, it's not so easy to upgrade to 16. YOu cannot add shells. So users should scale up, to avoid hitting limits down the road. The standard of Data Domain is typically 32 terabytes in terms of sizing.
Head IT Data Storage at a insurance company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
2019-09-08T09:50:00Z
Sep 8, 2019
I can't say I am very happy with the cost of the EMC product because we also have got a Veritas product. The comparison is that the EMC Data Domain solution is more expensive than the Veritas and they have similar capabilities. We were satisfied at the time we made the purchase of the EMC product, but subsequently, we went in a different direction. We added another product because we decided the price was too high for the original solution and to continue to add licenses. We are running both environments now.
Information Technology Manager at a energy/utilities company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
2019-08-07T06:15:00Z
Aug 7, 2019
In Naira it was about twenty-seven million (approximately $75,000 USD) for the implementation and maintenance cost for three years. All that is needed now is the maintenance cost.
Pricing is related to size. A lower range solution might be about $33,000. My customers use higher range versions with a price of around $100,000. That's the price for both the hardware and the software.
Licensing is available under per TB storage rates. Another level of licensing is available on technical support. There is a third licensing tier that includes more features. They are expensive but not complicated, i.e. more for high-end users. Reliability needs more cost.
Hello peers,
I am currently researching both Dell PowerProtect and ExaGrid. Which solution should I deploy and why?
What are the main differences between these two solutions? What are the pros and cons?
Thank you for your help.
Hi community,
I work as a Sr. Information Officer at a Manufacturing company.
Currently, I'm looking to compare Dell PowerProtect DD (Data Domain) vs NetApp FAS Series.
Also, if possible, I'm looking to compare how they are both compared to Pure Storage.
Can you please share your inputs?
Thanks.
Responsabile Data Management DC Area Nord Ovest at a tech services company with 501-1,000 employees
May 31, 2022
I think they are different types of storage for different purposes.
If you are looking for a storage where to put backups data you can think Data Domain is the perfect choice because it is its main use (most or all the backup softwares have plugins in ordere to manage data domains).
If you are looking for a primary storage (where to put your servers' data) then you can look to Netapp FAS and Purestorage.
The latter are flash natives so it's simpler to manage and configure. If you look at the Netapp FAS you can also choose storages with HDDs with less performance (and a cheaper price).
@Dhruba Roy, your question conflates very different kinds of storage.
PowerProtect DD is Dell's latest version of Data Domain. It is ONLY useful as target storage for backups. Nothing else, not even archiving. If that is what you want, it does what it's supposed to do. Albeit, it's a bit pricey and underperforming.
There are much faster, cheaper, and more advanced backup target storage. Especially when measuring restore performance. I would suggest you take a hard look at a variety of backup target storage vendors including, Infinidat InfiniGuard, ExaGrid, Quantum, StorONE, iXsystems, and many more. Most backup target storage is all HDD although some are hybrid SSD and HDD.
NetApp FAS is a general-purpose storage system for blocks and files. It can be all HDD, hybrid HDD and SSD, or all SSD (all-flash FAS or AFF). It's a solid all around storage system with NetApp pioneered capabilities, but expensive as a backup storage target.
Pure Storage FlashArray//X or //C are block all-flash storage arrays. Their FlashBlades are all flash file and object storage systems. Good performers but overkill and way too expensive for backup target storage.
I think you need to define what it is you really need. Of the 3 vendors you asked about, I am going to repeat myself, PowerProtect DD is ONLY useful as a target storage for backups. The other two can do so, but are really not priced nor designed specifically for backup target storage.
If general purpose storage is what you need NetApp and PureStorage are good possibilities among many others.
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There are many different licenses, so you pay for what you need. There are various aspects you can add on, like extra speed, or something just for reading data. There are licenses to do replication as well. You have a lot of options.
The solution is reasonably priced. We get discounts as well. They remain competitive. It's a hardware solution. We don't have to worry about software licensing. We can use any software on it that the client likes. Data Protect, DP 400, and higher models include EMC software and a set of various different software. If you buy the unit, you pay for it for three or five years. They also offer support with a warranty that you can extend.
The price is reasonable. However, it varies from project to project. While we've tried cheaper options, the features just weren't as good.
The licensing is not cost-effective, and the pricing could be better. It is a costly solution compared to Veritas, but it has good performance, scalability and assurances.
We usually buy products at the end year, and the license is included.
If we do not move to the cloud solution and stay with our on-premise version we will miss some new features. I rate the price of Dell PowerProtect DD a three out of five.
The licensing is expensive.
The price of the backup appliance is slightly expensive. Compared to other vendors, the pricing will be slightly higher. The backup software from Dell that you can use to operate the Data Domain is very cheap, and there are many different plans that can be purchased as a subscription or full license.
Buying Dell EMC PowerProtect DD (Data Domain), our clients don't have to pay for extra licenses. They can just buy any backup solution. For example, they can buy Dell EMC Avamar, or they can buy Symantec, Convault, etc. When buying IDPA products, you don't have to buy anything, because you'll have an integrated solution: a data domain appliance plus software, the software being Dell EMC software which is a big package of software that allows you to do everything. When buying Dell EMC PowerProtect DD (Data Domain), you can just buy a very cool backup software with deduplication, and that's all. It's very perfect, very nice. You can buy the backup software, e.g. Dell EMC, Convault, Symantec, etc. Pricing for this product could still be improved, though several years ago, its price was very high. When there are more competitors, though, the price becomes more attractive both for the customer and partner. Now we can get more discounts for projects. The price for this product will decrease, because more and more companies now produce integrated devices, e.g. deduplication is not a very new technology, but it was a feature that was limited to several market leaders.
The solution is expensive. However, if you pay less you receive less, it is cost-effective.
The solution was cheap; now it's becoming more expensive. For example, if you buy it for 10 terabytes, you have to buy 10 terabyte also of software for it. It's called the capacity software. It increased our prices.
The price is a bit steep. We pay for the support every three years.
EMC is very expensive for small customers. For enterprise-level companies, like banks, it offers a good price.
It could be more competitively priced. Its licensing was for five years. Obviously, the support will get renewed at some stage, but that's it.
The licensing was not an issue because it is related to the software part. I'm not really sure about the price, because I think we've gotten a discount as we are partners.
Its price is reasonable.
The price point is high. That said, they're competing with other products like Veritas, so in that sense, the price is good, or, maybe typical. And yet, whenever we are competing with some legacy type of product, the price difference is huge. It's a premium product and so the pricing is somewhat expected. In terms of scaling, the price is difficult to pin down. IF you buy 4 terabytes, it's not so easy to upgrade to 16. YOu cannot add shells. So users should scale up, to avoid hitting limits down the road. The standard of Data Domain is typically 32 terabytes in terms of sizing.
I can't say I am very happy with the cost of the EMC product because we also have got a Veritas product. The comparison is that the EMC Data Domain solution is more expensive than the Veritas and they have similar capabilities. We were satisfied at the time we made the purchase of the EMC product, but subsequently, we went in a different direction. We added another product because we decided the price was too high for the original solution and to continue to add licenses. We are running both environments now.
One thing that anyone considering this solution has to realize is that it is expensive. It is expensive for a reason, but it is expensive.
There are a lot of different models and each one has a different price. Some models require spending more on additional fees.
In Naira it was about twenty-seven million (approximately $75,000 USD) for the implementation and maintenance cost for three years. All that is needed now is the maintenance cost.
Pricing is related to size. A lower range solution might be about $33,000. My customers use higher range versions with a price of around $100,000. That's the price for both the hardware and the software.
I don't know the exact pricing, but I believe the solution is costly. You may also need to pay for extra features above the standard licensing.
Licensing is available under per TB storage rates. Another level of licensing is available on technical support. There is a third licensing tier that includes more features. They are expensive but not complicated, i.e. more for high-end users. Reliability needs more cost.