A quick note on CloudBolt actually: any CB server is within control of the CloudBolt customer; they can decide when to upgrade CB, and they have root access to it.
Project Lead at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Consultant
2017-07-21T07:50:49Z
Jul 21, 2017
Thanks for your valuable inputs. As I am an infra guy, let me grab some additional info. from my dev guys about their view on Scalr. However, Coldbolt also I have gone through (not done poc), and understood that the infra will be taken care by vendor. So any upgrades or migration will be taken care by Vendor itself.
Are you evaluating any other solution? The approach is quite different: while Scalr is more focused on the Cloud, BMC is close to the traditional virtualization solutions...
Technical Advisor at a hospitality company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
2017-07-20T15:10:32Z
Jul 20, 2017
If solely on the basis of Scalr vs. BMC CLM. Having previous experience with both, I would personally take Scalr. Setup, config and management is way easier and it has more functionality in the places that counted for my use cases. I've also tried RightScale but the pay by the drink model nickel and dime'd us to death. If your interested in something outside those that's more lightweight, CloudBolt is what we finally planned on using and has been great!. Manage over 6.5K servers and growing.
Project Lead at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Consultant
2017-07-20T14:01:33Z
Jul 20, 2017
Thanks for your answer. I am onto Scalr POC now and on the updated version which supports vmware good. Howerver, I got update from my dev team that there is no development tools on Scalr. Also for Baremetal provisioning, Scalr inturn using Qstack product.
CEO at a tech services company with 51-200 employees
Consultant
2017-07-20T13:43:50Z
Jul 20, 2017
The Cloud Management Platform space is rapidly evolving and changing. There are many players entering the space, consolidation is happening, all while the definition of the space is still different depending on who you ask. The short answer to the question is I would favor Scalr over BMC CLM for sure. Reasons are that Scalr is fully open source (not open core, you get the whole thing), so adoption cost is minimal. You are also dealing with a much smaller, more nimble and responsive company, where your input matters. You will never get that with BMC. For functionality and ease of use, I would also favor Scalr by far. The farm and farm template model is very easy to understand and implement. It is also very strong in managing AWS environments (that's how they started). The one area to look at with Scalr is VMWare support. Their support of VMWare is relatively new, but it has matured rapidly. A quick POC might help you evaluate if it works for you.
As Craig Allen pointed out in a previous post, there are lots of other choices out there. We evaluated them all in choosing a partner for our CMP consulting practice. There are other products like Cloudify (http://cloudify.co/ ) that recently added Catalog and Chargeback functionality that put them squarely in the CMP space. Also among the top CMP's we found is Red Hat CloudForms (https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/management/cloudforms ). Bottom line, there is no exact "best solution" because business needs and cloud strategy is different from company to company. CMP's have varying strengths and weaknesses based on where they came from (i.e. VMWare management vs AWS, Google, etc) and who they started out selling to (Ops vs Apps).
I hope this helps. We have put a lot of time and effort into researching the CMP space and happy to share any of our findings further.
I’m happy to assist with a response but I’ll need a bit more information about the specific customer’s IT environment and a list of their priorities for technical requirements and business issues (e.g. cost, SLAs, etc.)
Enterprise Solution Architect at Engineering Ingegneria Informatica SPA
Mar 23, 2020
Our use cases are related to IaaS and PaaS solutions. It's primarily used by DevOps, they use the PaaS solution to implement IBM WebSphere and they want to use the interface for issuing the deployment. They use the CLM platform to implement their DevOps process. CLM is only a part of the project, we have also used Orchestrator and Remedy for workflow process in terms of deployment and release. We had this project a year ago. My colleagues are on the customer-side to implement new use cases. They only do the maintenance of the infrastructure and implement a process for DevOps. We have stopped the cloud platform at the moment because of BMC, they don't invest anymore on CLM platforms. The customer has asked for a new platform.
Please share with the community what you think needs improvement with BMC Cloud Lifecycle Management. What are its weaknesses? What would you like to see changed in a future version?
Enterprise Solution Architect at Engineering Ingegneria Informatica SPA
Mar 23, 2020
One of the major problems is that support is not so good. I used to have a support expert in Spain but they left two years ago. BMC doesn't invest a lot in network automation but network automation is a major point in CLM. There aren't any experts here in Europe, maybe they have in America, I don't know. The main problem is the support in Europe. We had a lot of problems with the people who got put on our cases. The agents that we were assigned to were not so capable. They wanted to replicate the problem. If you have an incident, it takes a lot of time to troubleshoot the problem. The incident support is not so good. The technicians don't know the platform well. BMC doesn't want to invest in CLM. Two years ago we had a lot of problems. Maybe BMC realized that CLM is an end of life product.
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A quick note on CloudBolt actually: any CB server is within control of the CloudBolt customer; they can decide when to upgrade CB, and they have root access to it.
Thanks for your valuable inputs. As I am an infra guy, let me grab some additional info. from my dev guys about their view on Scalr. However, Coldbolt also I have gone through (not done poc), and understood that the infra will be taken care by vendor. So any upgrades or migration will be taken care by Vendor itself.
Go with RightScale/Scalr. Support with BMC is legendary (pun intended).
Are you evaluating any other solution? The approach is quite different: while Scalr is more focused on the Cloud, BMC is close to the traditional virtualization solutions...
I also rate Scalr over BMC CLM. Top 3 leader is Rightscale, Scalr, CliQr (now cisco own)
If solely on the basis of Scalr vs. BMC CLM. Having previous experience with both, I would personally take Scalr. Setup, config and management is way easier and it has more functionality in the places that counted for my use cases. I've also tried RightScale but the pay by the drink model nickel and dime'd us to death. If your interested in something outside those that's more lightweight, CloudBolt is what we finally planned on using and has been great!. Manage over 6.5K servers and growing.
Thanks for your answer. I am onto Scalr POC now and on the updated version which supports vmware good. Howerver, I got update from my dev team that there is no development tools on Scalr. Also for Baremetal provisioning, Scalr inturn using Qstack product.
The Cloud Management Platform space is rapidly evolving and changing. There are many players entering the space, consolidation is happening, all while the definition of the space is still different depending on who you ask. The short answer to the question is I would favor Scalr over BMC CLM for sure. Reasons are that Scalr is fully open source (not open core, you get the whole thing), so adoption cost is minimal. You are also dealing with a much smaller, more nimble and responsive company, where your input matters. You will never get that with BMC. For functionality and ease of use, I would also favor Scalr by far. The farm and farm template model is very easy to understand and implement. It is also very strong in managing AWS environments (that's how they started). The one area to look at with Scalr is VMWare support. Their support of VMWare is relatively new, but it has matured rapidly. A quick POC might help you evaluate if it works for you.
As Craig Allen pointed out in a previous post, there are lots of other choices out there. We evaluated them all in choosing a partner for our CMP consulting practice. There are other products like Cloudify (http://cloudify.co/ ) that recently added Catalog and Chargeback functionality that put them squarely in the CMP space. Also among the top CMP's we found is Red Hat CloudForms (https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/management/cloudforms ). Bottom line, there is no exact "best solution" because business needs and cloud strategy is different from company to company. CMP's have varying strengths and weaknesses based on where they came from (i.e. VMWare management vs AWS, Google, etc) and who they started out selling to (Ops vs Apps).
I hope this helps. We have put a lot of time and effort into researching the CMP space and happy to share any of our findings further.
I’m happy to assist with a response but I’ll need a bit more information about the specific customer’s IT environment and a list of their priorities for technical requirements and business issues (e.g. cost, SLAs, etc.)
Abiquo. Much better than either.
While I would rate Scalr over BMC Cloud Lifecycle Management - our research strongly recommends RightScale over the above choices.