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Rackspace, Dimension Data, and others that were in last year's Challenger quadrant became Niche Players: Agree/ Disagree
Gartner's Magic Quadrant 2014 for cloud computing places Amazon and Microsoft as leaders. Rackspace, Dimension Data, and others that were in last year's Challenger quadrant became this year's Niche Players - agree or disagree?
Part of the reason for the change is that Gartner split the Magic Quadrants into two Magic Quadrants this year. One for native IaaS cloud infrastructure and one for Cloud-Enabled Managed Hosting. Rackspace lead the market in the latter which is closer to where they have been trying to position themselves.
Infrastructure Expert at Cloud Counselage Inc. (www.cloudcounselage.com)
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2014-08-20T12:45:11Z
Aug 20, 2014
DISAGREE.
VMware is the present and the Future. Be it VMware vCloud and vSphere suites, tough competition for Amazon etc. or be it vCHS. Also, VMware's very own Public IaaS Cloud; vCHS (VMware vCloud Hybrid Service) which will change everything in days to come vis-a-vis Rackspace, IBM's Softlayer etc. Microsoft is not in a competition at all, because it lacks quality compared to the names mentioned above. __Tushar Topale
I completely agree. Cloud Computing vending is a scale business. And unless you have the $$ Billions to invest in DCs, interconnects, CDN capacity, as well as in continually investing in the OS and Management software infrastructure, you cannot be anything but a vendor that caters to a particular narrow segment.
Its a bit like telephony. You aren't going to do very well going up against GE/Sprint, ATT or Southwest Telecom. BUT if you are an EarthLink, you can play in then niche space of those who want a "socially responsible" Telco.
About a year ago, both Rackspace and Centurylink were looking for "capital partners" for future growth investment precisely because of these issues. I don't think they ever raised enough $$.
I have been saying for about 5 years now that there is room for 4-5 major cloud vendors and they were going to be:
Amazon, Google, Microsoft. and then fighting for the last 1-2 slots were
IBM, salesFORCE.com, EMC and perhaps Oracle. Oracle seems to have opted not to keep fighting, and EMC is now more focused on delivering services.
So you basically have IBM leveraging its corporate DC and mainframe hardware consolidation capabilities and Salesforce is leverging its lead in CRM to get apps built on Force.com
But pretty much everyone else is a niche player. The Future is Platform As A Service. NOT "vms" and Rackspace and Dimension Data all were hoping to move from VMs to PaaS but that's a hard move to make.
Hello community,
I am a Senior Manager at a medium-sized tech services company.
My company is planning to migrate from AWS to Azure. We would like to know the benefits of Azure versus AWS. Which one do you prefer?
In addition, what should be on our checklist during this migration?
Thank you for your help.
IT Support at a tech services company with 51-200 employees
Feb 8, 2023
At one level both providers are about the same. The biggest difference is the billing and service models.If you have a business relationship with Microsoft for other products and services then bundling in Azure could be a win. It may reduce some costs but at the very least you have 1 fewer service providers to deal with.I tend to like AWS but that is just because I am familiar with their services. One thing to keep track of is the costs. I have one client who really wants to move to AWS but cannot find a way to get over the 8-10 times increase in monthly costs over operating out of a shared data center with purchased equipment.
Cloud Native Architect | Kubernetes | Security | DevOps | SRE | Consultant at a tech company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Feb 8, 2023
Hi,This totally depends on your organization, what identity management and other products are being used, etc. It can actually depend on a lot of factors.
For me, it is hard to say that one is definitively "better" than the other as it largely depends on the specific needs and requirements of the organization. Both Amazon Web Services (AWS) and Microsoft Azure are highly capable cloud computing platforms with a wide range of features and services.
For some organizations, AWS may be the better option due to its strong portfolio of infrastructure and platform services, extensive global network of data centers, and its mature and well-established ecosystem of third-party tools and services.
For others, Azure may be the better choice due to its strong focus on big data and artificial intelligence (AI) services, its integration with other Microsoft products, and its hybrid cloud capabilities.
Ultimately, the best solution will depend on the organization's specific use case and requirements. It is important to carefully evaluate both options and weigh the pros and cons of each before making a decision.
My company utilizes many of the services that AWS offers for various cloud computing purposes. They are all useful, since they all serve different purposes. I think that is the best thing about AWS - how many areas it covers with its products. But if I have to give an example of a group of products that I utilize almost daily, it would be the analytics services. Solutions like Amazon Anthena, OpenSearch Service, Kinesis, and QuickSight are extremely important and useful for data management and analysis. You can get visualized detailed reports that help you make better business choices. These features are valuable additions to AWS, as it allows you not only to store the data but make full use of it as well.
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Agree. All those are not true cloud player but somewhere in between hosted cloud and true cloud computing.
Part of the reason for the change is that Gartner split the Magic Quadrants into two Magic Quadrants this year. One for native IaaS cloud infrastructure and one for Cloud-Enabled Managed Hosting. Rackspace lead the market in the latter which is closer to where they have been trying to position themselves.
DISAGREE.
VMware is the present and the Future. Be it VMware vCloud and vSphere suites, tough competition for Amazon etc. or be it vCHS. Also, VMware's very own Public IaaS Cloud; vCHS (VMware vCloud Hybrid Service) which will change everything in days to come vis-a-vis Rackspace, IBM's Softlayer etc. Microsoft is not in a competition at all, because it lacks quality compared to the names mentioned above. __Tushar Topale
I completely agree. Cloud Computing vending is a scale business. And unless you have the $$ Billions to invest in DCs, interconnects, CDN capacity, as well as in continually investing in the OS and Management software infrastructure, you cannot be anything but a vendor that caters to a particular narrow segment.
Its a bit like telephony. You aren't going to do very well going up against GE/Sprint, ATT or Southwest Telecom. BUT if you are an EarthLink, you can play in then niche space of those who want a "socially responsible" Telco.
About a year ago, both Rackspace and Centurylink were looking for "capital partners" for future growth investment precisely because of these issues. I don't think they ever raised enough $$.
I have been saying for about 5 years now that there is room for 4-5 major cloud vendors and they were going to be:
Amazon, Google, Microsoft. and then fighting for the last 1-2 slots were
IBM, salesFORCE.com, EMC and perhaps Oracle. Oracle seems to have opted not to keep fighting, and EMC is now more focused on delivering services.
So you basically have IBM leveraging its corporate DC and mainframe hardware consolidation capabilities and Salesforce is leverging its lead in CRM to get apps built on Force.com
But pretty much everyone else is a niche player. The Future is Platform As A Service. NOT "vms" and Rackspace and Dimension Data all were hoping to move from VMs to PaaS but that's a hard move to make.