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2019-07-29T10:12:00Z
Julia Frohwein - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Director of Delivery at PeerSpot (formerly IT Central Station)
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What advice do you have for others considering Veritas NetBackup Appliance?

If you were talking to someone whose organization is considering Veritas NetBackup Appliance, what would you say?

How would you rate it and why? Any other tips or advice?

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18 Answers
JD
ICT-architect at a tech services company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
Top 10
2021-02-24T20:43:06Z
24 February 21

We are an integrator and consultant. While we tend to start by using the latest version of the solution, we may use various versions. I'm not sure which versions we are using right now. We have a combination of different deployment types. My advice to others is that you should have a solution that can cover a lot of things. Especially if you look for the deduplication functionality. It's very important that you check that it's valid for complete virtual environments or VMware environments or Hyper-V environments. You can use it as a complete solution, meaning that you can have the full chain where you want to have deduplicated data streams and data storage locations. Users need to make sure that it is fitting on everything. Whatever a company chooses, they need to make sure before they start they aren't missing anything that they absolutely need. With Veritas, you have the deduplication software and you have the Flex Appliances, and so on. I have learned also that there is some interesting functionality in the physical appliance as well, and that's not always known by teams of people. It could be useful as a DR solution, for example. Overall, I would rate the solution at a seven out of ten. It does fill the requirements. The basic things are there. However, I have learned that other solutions have a higher deduplication ratio. If Veritas NetBackup would also come with a better deduplication ratio in the future I would rank it higher.

Ahmed Sabry - PeerSpot reviewer
Team Leader at a financial services firm with 10,001+ employees
Real User
Top 5Leaderboard
2021-02-16T17:07:21Z
16 February 21

I would recommend this solution. I rate this solution an eight out of 10.

Aziz Serbouti - PeerSpot reviewer
General Manager at curetech
Real User
Top 10
2020-11-03T03:53:20Z
03 November 20

In summary, this is a good product but it is very expensive. I would rate this solution a four out of ten.

Muksith Thangal - PeerSpot reviewer
Backup and Storage Specialist at a sports company with 501-1,000 employees
Real User
Top 5
2020-10-08T07:25:20Z
08 October 20

We're not using the latest version of the solution. We're using N minus one. As an enterprise-level solution, you may need a bigger team to manage it, depending on your organization's size. We need a big team. Basically, it depends on the size of the solution. In the past 10 years, I've worked in different companies. At one time, we had around 10 appliances, and we had multiple people managing everything. One guy alone will not be able to manage it, though it depends on the sizing. Basically, if you know there is a good guy who knows the in and out of an appliance, if it is one appliance and depending on how many machines we are backing up, he might be okay. There are lot of factors that have to be considered when building a team that can handle it. My advice to other would be, if your environment is big enough, to be aware that your biggest major expense is the on-premise solution. Even though we have top cloud solutions, if you're on-premise, if the infrastructure is on-premise and it's a large enough infrastructure, and if you have a good team to manage, the best, the most dependable solution would be NetBackup. That's considering all the other big players. I'm talking about the enterprise level, where we need to manage more than 200, 300 machines, or 300 VMs, or 300 servers, and then you need to protect these machines. Based on the options that we have, and based on the enterprise solutions that are in the market, there are maybe five to 10 big players. Out of that, I would say that NetBackup would rank either first or second. I have personal experience with some of the other products too, or I have reviewed most of them basically. Based on my experience, even though I had multiple choices or options to move out of NetBackup, after reviewing everything, I went back to NetBackup or I decided, okay, fine, I'll renew NetBackup. Overall, I'd rate the solution at seven out of ten. There are lots of things that can be done from the administrative point of view that, if accomplished, would rank them higher.

Pradeep Kabbur - PeerSpot reviewer
Technical Lead at a tech services company with 201-500 employees
MSP
Top 5
2020-10-04T06:42:00Z
04 October 20

Overall, Veritas is a good solution; the problem is the cost. For a large enterprise, it's great. On a scale from one to ten, I would give this solution a rating of eight.

HN
Lead Technical Architect/Consultant at a tech services company with 51-200 employees
Real User
2020-08-24T05:54:30Z
24 August 20

On a scale from one to ten where one is the worst and ten is the best, I would rate Veritas NetBackup Appliance well. Going from our experience and the popular reports, it is one of the top three backup solutions. But the higher ranking is also based on being an appliance and that is not a growing part of the market. The product itself, I think, would be nine-out-of-ten. But the future market for the product will dwindle.

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IH
General Manager at a energy/utilities company with 51-200 employees
Real User
Top 10
2020-08-11T06:17:31Z
11 August 20

I'd rate the solution nine out of ten. The solution offers good scalability and stability. It's easy to navigate and offers good pricing. For the most part, what we need is right there, however it could use better reporting.

AS
Associate at a consultancy with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
2019-08-12T05:55:00Z
12 August 19

This is an available and reliable solution, which is very good to set up for enterprise systems. We had some issues with the management of delivery where we were only provided with a technician to implement the solution, which delayed the planning of installation. However, the technician was highly qualified. I would rate this solution an eight out of ten.

PeerSpot user
IT Architect at a tech services company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
Top 10
2019-08-08T07:02:00Z
08 August 19

This is a really good technology, but they are missing some key, important features. The biggest lesson that I have learned from using this solution is that there is always something that can be improved. I would rate this solution a seven out of ten.

Mahdi Bahmani - PeerSpot reviewer
Solution Architect, IT Consultant at Merdasco - Rayan Merdas Data Prosseccing
Real User
Top 5Leaderboard
2019-08-08T07:02:00Z
08 August 19

This is a very good solution for Enterprise-level companies. One of my larger customers has been using this solution for more than five years. Because they didn't have experience with NetBackup, they preferred this appliance version. They have it deployed in their private data center. While this is one of the best solutions in this space, the price is expensive compared to other solutions. I would rate this solution a ten out of ten.

JG
Chief Scientist at a tech services company with 11-50 employees
Real User
2019-08-06T07:17:00Z
06 August 19

I like Veritas. They are a large company with good best practices, and they give good support. They can invest in knowledge-intensive features to make their solution more user-friendly. They need to work more on their R&D, be more innovative, and take more risks in providing solutions for the hybrid cloud and for migrations. I would rate this solution an eight out of ten.

JR
Director of the Enterprise Department at a tech services company with 51-200 employees
Real User
2019-08-05T06:24:00Z
05 August 19

I would rate this solution an eight out of ten.

VP
DBA at a energy/utilities company with 201-500 employees
Real User
2019-08-04T07:38:00Z
04 August 19

We use the on-premises deployment model. We've been very happy with this solution. The correlation of NetBackup with a Veritas solution, which gave us the opportunity to dynamically capture the protected data in the two different styles, was helpful. Another Veritas webpage solution works perfectly with NetBackup and gives us a dynamic picture of protected data. One other improvement we've seen since implementation, from a business' point of view, is that the usage of the new popular technology of Veritas, like the access storage, where the initial configuration is 700 terabytes, gives us long term retention. The company avoids paying for quite expensive robotic libraries. The access storage is outside the company but the backup and the reach hold times are working in tandem. The speed on daily operation, in terms of cataloging, restoring operations, and related things are very good. The DR (Disaster Recovery) in RPO (Recovery Point Objective) and RTO (Recovery Time Objective) has also improved. Everybody is looking for the best solution that actually gives a balance RPO or RTO. And these two terms are highly related to the DR, the disaster recovery plans. From that point of view, they are a great improvement in contrast with the previous solution that we had. The previous solution was a backup exit. Again, it was the very best, before it was Symantec. We had it for more than five years but when we moved to NetBackup we discovered a whole new world of possibilities and capabilities. I would advise anyone to use NetBackup. I know the solution well, and I know that they offer very good implication ratio. Of course, I have this opinion because we are also using their appliances, which are pre-configured specifically for this operation. I don't know if these ratios will be sustained if a customer buys just the software, and uses a third-party storage option to keep the backup. In our case, I would suggest sharing the POC with NetBackup, and even if the POC is without an appliance, I think they can expect to see a big difference. It's very fast. I would rate the solution ten out of ten. If you would ask me about the software alone I would give it 9, but with the appliance, it deserves a 10.

MH
Network Administrator at KING FAHD MILITARY MEDICAL COMPLEX
Real User
2019-08-01T05:43:00Z
01 August 19

I would rate this solution a nine out of ten. I would recommend it to somebody considering it.

PeerSpot user
Storage Engineer at a insurance company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
2019-07-31T05:52:00Z
31 July 19

We're using the on-premises deployment model. I would recommend others to consider the solution if they're using a lot of workloads. It's a really good product. However, if you have only a small workload, it's a huge fixture for nothing. I would rate this solution eight out of ten.

it_user713355 - PeerSpot reviewer
CEO at BhPart
Real User
2019-07-30T10:41:00Z
30 July 19

I would rate this solution an eight out of ten.

MA
System Administrator at a manufacturing company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
2019-07-30T10:41:00Z
30 July 19

We use a local high-available backup server version of the solution. With this solution, we've had perfect support and our use cases were perfectly served. I would rate this solution nine out of ten.

AK
IT Team Leader at a financial services firm with 5,001-10,000 employees
Real User
2019-07-29T10:12:00Z
29 July 19

If you are using NetBackup software on the same appliance you can expect good performance. In terms of the solution, you may need to log cases with different vendors if you have a different storage solution. However, if you have the NetBackup appliance and it doesn't need backup software you can create logs with the same technical support. It makes it easy for coordination. You can eliminate redundancies if you have a single vendor. I would rate this solution eight out of ten.

Related Questions
Julia Frohwein - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Director of Delivery at PeerSpot (formerly IT Central Station)
Feb 24, 2021
Hi Everyone, What do you like most about Veritas NetBackup Appliance? Thanks for sharing your thoughts with the community!
2 out of 19 answers
AK
IT Team Leader at a financial services firm with 5,001-10,000 employees
29 July 19
If you use the NetBackup Appliance you do not need to have separate media servers and hardware. You can configure the same storage as a media server and master server as well as a storage port. This helps to reduce the hardware costs of the media server.
it_user713355 - PeerSpot reviewer
CEO at BhPart
30 July 19
Installing this solution is very simple and takes perhaps five or ten minutes.
Nurit Sherman - PeerSpot reviewer
Content Operations Manager at PeerSpot (formerly IT Central Station)
Oct 13, 2021
Hi community,  We all know it's important to conduct a trial or do a proof of concept as part of the buying process.  Do you have any advice for our community about the best way to conduct a trial or PoC?  How would you conduct a trial effectively? Are there any mistakes which should be avoided?
2 out of 16 answers
Gary-Cook - PeerSpot reviewer
Alliance Architect at Commvault
06 August 18
I am not sure if this question comes from a vendor or customer so the response is somewhat generic. If you are the technical customer or end user, try to be involved in the process start to end. If possible, be the hands on the keyboard. No better way to understand the solution if you are going to be the user of it in the future. If you are the vendor promoting ease of use, there is no better way to sell your product to the technical team. I have managed a lot of data replication, protection, and archiving POCs. Two requirements always stand out. Success criteria and POC type. As a vendor delivering the POC, you will fail 90% of the time without clearly defining these up front. As a customer, you should have a clear idea about why you are investing your time in POC and what you expect to gain from it. POCs should not be a training exercise. They are a path to purchase a solution for a budgeted project. If you are just kicking the tires, consider the free or self-paced options provided by many vendors. These include on-line labs and downloadable virtual machines or trial software. These cannot be considered a POC in my book. Now the two key components for a successful POC. #1 - Define as a Functional or Performance POC Decide whether you are running a functional or performance-based POC. If you are the vendor, make sure the customer is aware of the limitation of a functional POC in a limited resource environment. Don't allow a Functional POC to become a Performance POC. Been there. Done that. It's never a success. Functional testing is easier. There is no requirement for measured performance so sizing the environment is a minor issue. Just has to be "fast enough" to keep your attention. They usually cover base installation, backup target configuration, agent configuration, test backups and restores, reporting, alerting, etc. Data sets are generally small. It can be executed in a limited environment with virtual machines. Sometimes the vendor can supply access to a remote lab environment such as the VMware vSAN lab. Sometimes it can be delivered as a preconfigured VM downloaded from the vendor. Performance testing is complicated. Speeds and feeds matter. You will not be able to backup your entire live environment so you have to build a test environment to mimic it as close as possible if you are looking for GB/sec measurements. Success Criteria become golden in performance tests. You will be following the recommended hardware configuration supplied by the vendor. #2 - Success Criteria Define clear success criteria and stay with the plan. This will avoid scope creep where testing has no endpoint. A test plan can be extremely difficult to create from scratch. Take the time because it is key to a fair and complete test. It will make you think about the purpose of the test. Most vendors have boilerplate POC documents. They are a good starting point but they almost always focus on the strength of the product. If you are the customer performing comparison testing, blend them into a single document. Some or all of the success criteria should meet the "must have" requirements of a published RFP if it exists. Test criteria should not be too detailed, especially to favor a particular solution UNLESS that is a pass/fail test. Define a start and end date based on the testing requirements. Testing should be sequenced. Test backup of app A, app B, os C.. Don't jump back and forth between Oracle and Sharepoint for example. Complete one, deal with any issues, check the boxes, and move on. DR, Performance, and SLA testing absolutely require detailed planning. Too much to detail in this short response. Imagine a POC where you are faced with "I need to recover my 50 TB Oracle server off-site with an RPO of 5 seconds and an RTO of 5 minutes". In a large POC, you might have regularly scheduled meetings or conference calls for updates on the progress and to deal with issues. Include a site survey covering security and the network configuration, Prepare to deal with fixed IPs, firewalls, ports, Active Directory, etc. Nothing like a backup solution to break a network and bring the testing to a standstill. Make sure you have a clear understanding of the environment. I once had a POC where they were migrating some AD domains that were part of the test infrastructure. Unknown to me. Needless to say, we faced constant failures. Define the hardware and configuration requirements on a per server basis. OS, partition sizes, network, etc. This applies to the backup infrastructure servers and the servers that will be the source of the backup data. Include all the key contacts with access information to servers. Make sure you have ALL the required resources (human and compute) resources available on the start date. For example, you might need help from an Oracle DBA or SME on day 2 to continue the installation. Define a process to modify the plan. I've seen cases where another department sees the shiny new object and wants to jump into testing their app after the plan was approved and tests begin. Plan to deal with this exception in the testing procedure but not deviate from accomplishing the original success criteria. It should be approved by management. Define what is considered critical to the success of the test, what is a nice to have feature, and optionally, what doesn't matter at all. Be specific. Include application versions if it matters. You might judge the test completion as pass / partial pass / no pass or a percentage of how it meets the criteria. Don't use subjective rankings. Add a column next to the test for comments for subjective comments. If you are comparison testing two or more solutions, make sure you can test "apples to apples" across the POC candidates. All vendors should be tested to the same standard. It can be difficult to compare an appliance to an enterprise software solution. The appliance will win the easy to install checkbox but might fail in the ease of expansion category because it requires a new, larger box. Consider the future in a POC, not just how it functions today. For example, you should think about the process to add additional capacity locally or bring on new sites/servers. NOTE: Content here subject to updates if I think of something new or helpful.
MichaelWeimann - PeerSpot reviewer
Director at Infrascale
06 August 18
Was going to write a lengthy response but yours is spot on Gary. I will only add that the front end and back end of every SMART goal is to be Specific and Timely. Document what is important to test and what the criteria for passing are BEFORE you ever take delivery. Then put an expected time for this POC to complete and what would be a successful test. The only other thing I would add is if the vendor is not providing technical resources to drive and/or assist during the POC...don't waste your time. But, if you expect the vendor to devote the resources, you can also expect the vendor to hold you to a purchasing decision when/if everything passes with flying colors.
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