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"I have worked with DB2's great features in the last five years. The IDAA feature transformed the vision of warehousing, business analytics, and big data at my bank. Besides the mainframe, I saw that this solution was evolutionary. It gives real-time information.""BMC Data Management improved our data recovery process by simplifying it."

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"One of the valuable features is the ability to use PL/SQL statements inside the data transformations and jobs.""Data transformation within Pentaho is a nice feature that they have and that I value.""We're using the PDI and the repository function, and they give us the ability to easily generate reporting and output, and to access data. We also like the ability to schedule.""The fact that it enables us to leverage metadata to automate data pipeline templates and reuse them is definitely one of the features that we like the best. The metadata injection is helpful because it reduces the need to create and maintain additional ETLs. If we didn't have that feature, we would have lots of duplicated ETLs that we would have to create and maintain. The data pipeline templates have definitely been helpful when looking at productivity and costs.""Flexible deployment, in any environment, is very important to us. That is the key reason why we ended up with these tools. Because we have a very highly secure environment, we must be able to install it in multiple environments on multiple different servers. The fact that we could use the same tool in all our environments, on-prem and in the cloud, was very important to us.""The fact that it's a low-code solution is valuable. It's good for more junior people who may not be as experienced with programming.""The way it has improved our product is by giving our users the ability to do ad hoc reports, which is very important to our users. We can do predictive analysis on trends coming in for contracts, which is what our product does. The product helps users decide which way to go based on the predictive analysis done by Pentaho. Pentaho is not doing predictions, but reporting on the predictions that our product is doing. This is a big part of our product.""We also haven't had to create any custom Java code. Almost everywhere it's SQL, so it's done in the pipeline and the configuration. That means you can offload the work to people who, while they are not less experienced, are less technical when it comes to logic."

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"One area for improvement with this product could be in providing clearer guidance and tools for disaster recovery planning and execution.""DB2 is a hard tool to grasp. It's hard for users to learn how to use it. It's not easy to see how it works."

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"The reporting definitely needs improvement. There are a lot of general, basic features that it doesn't have. A simple feature you would expect a reporting tool to have is the ability to search the repository for a report. It doesn't even have that capability. That's been a feature that we've been asking for since the beginning and it hasn't been implemented yet.""If you develop it on MacBook, it'll be quite a hassle.""The testing and quality could really improve. Every time that there is a major release, we are very nervous about what is going to get broken. We have had a lot of experience with that, as even the latest one was broken. Some basic things get broken. That doesn't look good for Hitachi at all. If there is one place I would advise them to spend some money and do some effort, it is with the quality. It is not that hard to start putting in some unit tests so basic things don't get broken when they do a new release. That just looks horrible, especially for an organization like Hitachi.""Parallel execution could be better in Pentaho. It's very simple but I don't think it works well.""Since Hitachi took over, I don't feel that the documentation is as good within the solution. It used to have very good help built right in.""I work with different databases. I would like to work with more connectors to new databases, e.g., DynamoDB and MariaDB, and new cloud solutions, e.g., AWS, Azure, and GCP. If they had these connectors, that would be great. They could improve by building new connectors. If you have native connections to different databases, then you can make instructions more efficient and in a more natural way. You don't have to write any scripts to use that connector.""I'm still in the very recent stage concerning Pentaho Data Integration, but it can't really handle what I describe as "extreme data processing" i.e. when there is a huge amount of data to process. That is one area where Pentaho is still lacking.""Although it is a low-code solution with a graphical interface, often the error messages that you get are of the type that a developer would be happy with. You get a big stack of red text and Java errors displayed on the screen, and less technical people can get intimidated by that. It can be a bit intimidating to get a wall of red error messages displayed. Other graphical tools that are focused at the power user level provide a much more user-friendly experience in dealing with your exceptions and guiding the user into where they've made the mistake."

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  • "There is a good open source option (Community Edition)​."
  • "The price of the regular version is not reasonable and it should be lower."
  • "Sometimes we provide the licenses or the customer can procure their own licenses. Previously, we had an enterprise license. Currently, we are on a community license as this is adequate for our needs."
  • "It does seem a bit expensive compared to the serverless product offering. Tools, such as Server Integration Services, are "almost" free with a database engine. It is comparable to products like Alteryx, which is also very expensive."
  • "I think Lumada's price is fair compared to some of the others, like BusinessObjects, which is was the other thing that I used at my previous job. BusinessObject's price was more reasonable before SAP acquired it. They jacked the price up significantly. Oracle's OBIEE tool was also prohibitively expensive."
  • "When we first started with it, it was much cheaper. It has gone up drastically, especially since Hitachi bought out Pentaho."
  • "The cost of these types of solutions are expensive. So, we really appreciate what we get for our money. Though, we don't think of the solution as a top-of-the-line solution or anything like that."
  • "The pricing has been pretty good. I'm used to using everything open-source or freeware-based. I understand that organizations need to make sure that the solutions are secure, and that's basically where I hit a roadblock in my current organization. They needed to ensure that we had a license and we had a secure way of accessing it so that no outside parties could get access to our data, but in terms of pricing, considering how much other teams are spending on cloud solutions or even their existing solutions, its price point is pretty good. At this time, there are no additional costs. We just have the licensing fees."
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    Questions from the Community
    Top Answer:BMC Data Management improved our data recovery process by simplifying it.
    Top Answer:One area for improvement with this product could be in providing clearer guidance and tools for disaster recovery planning and execution. As someone involved in managing infrastructure, understanding… more »
    Top Answer:From my perspective as an infrastructure guy, the most valuable aspect of BMC's data management solutions was their ability to optimize CPU cycles, improving IMS performance without directly impacting… more »
    Top Answer:Hi Rajneesh yes here is the feature comparison between the community and enterprise edition :… more »
    Top Answer: In my opinion, the reporting side of this tool needs serious improvements. In my previous company, we worked with Hitachi Lumada Data Integration and while it does a good job for what it’s worth, it… more »
    Top Answer:My company has used this product to transform data from databases, CSV files, and flat files. It really does a good job. We were most satisfied with the results in terms of how many people could use… more »
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    Also Known As
    BMC Data Management for IMS and DB2 on z/OS, Data Management for IMS and DB2 on z/OS
    Hitachi Lumada Data Integration, Kettle, Pentaho Data Integration
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    Overview

    Transform the management of your DB2 databases to meet the scale and complexity of digital business

    • Run DB2 utilities with BMC Next Generation Technology to optimize your data and improve application performance
    • Eliminate downtime and increase availability of business services
    • Ensure the integrity of structured and unstructured data
    • Take control with intelligent automation and policy-driven rules
    • Bridge the gap from green-screen to modern, secure, self-service user interfaces
    • Move to DB2 12 and beyond with confidence

    Pentaho Data Integration stands as a versatile platform designed to cater to the data integration and analytics needs of organizations, regardless of their size. This powerful solution is the go-to choice for businesses seeking to seamlessly integrate data from diverse sources, including databases, files, and applications. Pentaho Data Integration facilitates the essential tasks of cleaning and transforming data, ensuring it's primed for meaningful analysis. With a wide array of tools for data mining, machine learning, and statistical analysis, Pentaho Data Integration empowers organizations to glean valuable insights from their data. What sets Pentaho Data Integration apart is its maturity and a vibrant community of users and developers, making it a reliable and cost-effective option. Pentaho Data Integration offers a range of features, including a comprehensive ETL toolkit, data cleaning and transformation capabilities, robust data analysis tools, and seamless deployment options for data integration and analytics solutions, making it a go-to solution for organizations seeking to harness the power of their data.

    Sample Customers
    Airline Tariff Publishing Co (ATPCO), AtTask, MetaScale
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    Top Industries
    VISITORS READING REVIEWS
    Financial Services Firm26%
    Insurance Company13%
    Government11%
    Manufacturing Company7%
    REVIEWERS
    Healthcare Company19%
    Financial Services Firm19%
    Comms Service Provider11%
    Manufacturing Company11%
    VISITORS READING REVIEWS
    Financial Services Firm19%
    Computer Software Company13%
    Comms Service Provider12%
    Government7%
    Company Size
    VISITORS READING REVIEWS
    Small Business20%
    Midsize Enterprise5%
    Large Enterprise75%
    REVIEWERS
    Small Business27%
    Midsize Enterprise31%
    Large Enterprise42%
    VISITORS READING REVIEWS
    Small Business21%
    Midsize Enterprise11%
    Large Enterprise68%
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    BMC Data Management for IMS and DB2 on zOS is ranked 21st in Database Development and Management with 2 reviews while Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is ranked 15th in Data Integration with 48 reviews. BMC Data Management for IMS and DB2 on zOS is rated 8.6, while Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is rated 8.0. The top reviewer of BMC Data Management for IMS and DB2 on zOS writes "Improves disaster recovery processes and offers an efficient CPU cycle optimization ". On the other hand, the top reviewer of Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics writes "It's flexible and can do almost anything I want it to do". BMC Data Management for IMS and DB2 on zOS is most compared with AWS Database Migration Service, Dataloader.io, Qlik Replicate and IBM App Connect, whereas Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is most compared with SSIS, Azure Data Factory, Talend Open Studio, Oracle Data Integrator (ODI) and AWS Glue.

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