BMC Cloud Lifecycle Management vs Oracle Enterprise Manager Cloud Control comparison

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Categories and Ranking

IBM Turbonomic
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Ranking in Cloud Management
4th
Average Rating
8.8
Number of Reviews
204
Ranking in other categories
Cloud Migration (5th), Virtualization Management Tools (2nd), Cloud Analytics (1st), Cloud Cost Management (1st)
BMC Cloud Lifecycle Management
Ranking in Cloud Management
43rd
Average Rating
7.8
Number of Reviews
5
Ranking in other categories
Cloud Monitoring Software (43rd)
Oracle Enterprise Manager C...
Ranking in Cloud Management
15th
Average Rating
8.2
Number of Reviews
34
Ranking in other categories
No ranking in other categories
 

Mindshare comparison

As of June 2024, in the Cloud Management category, the mindshare of IBM Turbonomic is 6.9%, down from 7.7% compared to the previous year. The mindshare of BMC Cloud Lifecycle Management is 0.1%, down from 0.3% compared to the previous year. The mindshare of Oracle Enterprise Manager Cloud Control is 1.4%, up from 0.9% compared to the previous year. It is calculated based on PeerSpot user engagement data.
Cloud Management
Unique Categories:
Cloud Migration
12.9%
Virtualization Management Tools
14.6%
Cloud Monitoring Software
0.1%
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Featured Reviews

BM
Jul 18, 2023
Sheds light on how an application functions and how it could be more efficient
We would go quarter-to-quarter and say, "Okay, go optimize our application environments." We could use Azure Monitor or a couple of other tools that aren't nearly as robust, and without knowing the impact, other than what Azure Monitor gives you. But Azure Monitor, which doesn't do memory metrics, would tell you, "You can reduce size by doing this," but maybe memory was the problem. Turbonomic is much more robust. Before using it, we were doing things in a very manual way. The way I got Turbonomic through the door was by saying, "You want to have your entire staff clean up the cloud every quarter?"
it_user790746 - PeerSpot reviewer
Dec 18, 2017
Automates Java EE Application Deployment from an SCM system
Total build time has been reduced from four weeks to one week, then later to 24 hours. * Threat remediation: Combine with SecOps to link vulnerabilities to identified patches and create a remediation plan. * Compliance: Integrates role-based access control with pre-configured policies for CIS, DISA, HIPAA, PCI, SOX, NIST, and SCAP documentation and remediation. * Provisioning: Supports unattended installs and image-based, script-based, or template-based provisioning. * Configuration: Consistently manage change and configuration activities across a broad range of server environments with one tool. * Reporting: Assesses change impact or completes an audit using multiple dashboard views. * Patching: Supports and follows Maintenance Window Guidelines to ensure timely delivery of patches.
Andree Khodunov - PeerSpot reviewer
Apr 19, 2023
Efficient central tool for managing Oracle products
From my experience, people use Enterprise Manager to control how they use Oracle software, including the installation base of software such as Oracle Enterprise Edition and options. But just having the system is not enough. It also helps with their licensing needs. System administrators use it for…

Quotes from Members

We asked business professionals to review the solutions they use. Here are some excerpts of what they said:
 

Pros

"The solution has a good optimization feature."
"The most valuable features are the cluster utilization reports and the resource capacity planning. We can simulate how much capacity we can add to the current resources. The individual DM reports and VM-facing recommendations report are also helpful."
"My favorite part of the solution is the automation scheduling. Being able to choose when actions happen, and how they happen..."
"The tool provides the ability to look at the consumption utilization over a period of time and determine if we need to change that resource allocation based on the actual workload consumption, as opposed to how IT has configured it. Therefore, we have come to realize that a lot of our workloads are overprovisioned, and we are spending more money in the public cloud than we need to."
"It also brings up a list of machines and if something is under-provisioned and needs more compute power it will tell you, 'This server needs more compute power, and we suggest you raise it up to this level.' It will even automatically do it for you. In Azure, you don't have to actually go into the cloud provider to resize. You can just say, 'Apply these resizes,' and Turbonomic uses some back-end APIs to make the changes for you."
"Turbonomic helps us right-size virtual machines to utilize the available infrastructure components available and suggest where resources should exist. We also use the predictive tool to forecast what will happen when we add additional compute-demanding virtual machines or something to the environment. It shows us how that would impact existing resources. All of that frees up time that would otherwise be spent on manual calculation."
"The system automatically sizes and moves resources based on the needs of the applications."
"In our organization, optimizing application performance is a continuous process that is beyond human scale. We would not be able to do the number of actions that Turbonomic takes on a daily, weekly, and monthly basis. It is humanly impossible with the little micro adjustments that it can make. That is a huge differentiator. If you just figure each action could take anywhere very conservatively from five to 10 minutes to act upon, then you multiply that out by thousands of actions every month, it is easily something where you could say, "I am saving a couple of FTEs.""
"Automates Java EE Application Deployment from an SCM system."
"CLM has a multi-cloud portal because they have the resources to implement in various environments in various ports."
"Supports unattended installs and image-based, script-based, or template-based provisioning."
"You can tie together your public and private cloud infrastructure into a "single pane of glass"."
"By allowing end users to request their own services, the request process for systems is much quicker and more accurate."
"Integrates role-based access control with pre-configured policies for CIS, DISA, HIPAA, PCI, SOX, NIST, and SCAP documentation and remediation."
"Assesses change impact or completes an audit using multiple dashboard views."
"I use the solution for troubleshooting."
"One of the clearest examples is the agility of discovering processes/sessions that are burdening the database environment. With this agility, the DBA can more quickly verify this type of problem, in addition to checking locked sessions and not having to do several searches in views and tables of the data dictionary. The tool already does this for you in an agile way."
"You can create a system group (database, application, and web server), so you can monitor performance as a system."
"The solution is reliable."
"If you're using Oracle products, you should definitely use Oracle Enterprise Manager because it is central to product management."
"Once this solution is configured, it will help administrators centralize their management of the environment."
"Compared to other monitoring products, the user interface is very clear. It sends clear notifications."
"The most valuable feature of Oracle EMCC is its flexibility to manage various industries, projects, and tasks."
 

Cons

"The GUI and policy creation have room for improvement. There should be a better view of some of the numbers that are provided and easier to access. And policy creation should have it easier to identify groups."
"They could add a few more reports. They could also be a bit more granular. While they have reports, sometimes it is hard to figure out what you are looking for just by looking at the date."
"I would like Turbonomic to add more services, especially in the cloud area. I have already told them this. They can add Azure NetApp Files. They can add Azure Blob storage. They have already added Azure App service, but they can do more."
"The way it handles updates needs to be improved."
"I do not like Turbonomic's new licensing model. The previous model was pretty straightforward, whereas the new model incorporates what most of the vendors are doing now with cores and utilization. Our pricing under the new model will go up quite a bit. Before, it was pretty straightforward, easy to understand, and reasonable."
"There is room for improvement [with] upgrades. We have deployed the newer version, version 8 of Turbonomic. The problem is that there is no way to upgrade between major Turbonomic versions. You can upgrade minor versions without a problem, but when you go from version 6 to version 7, or version 7 to version 8, you basically have to deploy it new and let it start gathering data again. That is a problem because all of the data, all of the savings calculations that had been done on the old version, are gone. There's no way to keep track of your lifetime savings across versions."
"Turbonomic can modernize the look and feel, making it more user-friendly to access and obtain information."
"We don't use Turbonomic for FinOps and part of the reason is its cost reporting. The reporting could be much more robust and, if that were the case, I could pitch it for FinOps."
"Needs integrations with other providers to provide a custom public cloud environment."
"One of the major problems is that support is not so good."
"The installation and configuration can be tricky due to it being built on Remedy."
"They need to simplify it and make it lighter."
"The on-premises installation is complex. It should be easier, especially for deploying agents that are running on a Windows machine that is running Oracle databases. It's very complex. Linux based machines aren't so complicated but it's complex for Windows."
"I've had both positive and negative experiences with support. Its compatibility with the rest of the products in the market is less."
"The response time of the solution's technical support team is too long and should be improved."
"It's crucial to promptly resolve agent-related issues to ensure continuous and accurate monitoring of database features within the Oracle Enterprise Manager."
"One of the things that can be improved is the quality of results generated by BI Publisher. They are somewhat confusing when it comes to analysis."
"Sometimes the alerts are coming a bit late, for example, an alert for the CPU. It depends on the threshold that you have, how long you want to check the CPU of the machine. I got some faulty alerts with Data Guard. I had stopped a synchronization for maintenance and then I re-synchronized Oracle Data Guard. It took some time to appear in Enterprise Manager and send me the right notification that Data Guard was up and running and synchronizing. I realized this because I went directly into the database to check the status of Data Guard, and it was telling me that it was running okay. But in Enterprise Manager, it needed some more time to update the interface."
"There is a lack from the point of view of monitoring on the system. The performance of the system and its resources are things that I think can be improved. There needs to be real-time monitoring available on the solution."
 

Pricing and Cost Advice

"The product is fairly priced right now. Given its capabilities, it is excellently priced. We think that the product will become self-funding because we will be able to maximize our resources, which will help us from a capacity perspective. That should save us money in the long run."
"When we have expanded our licensing, it has always been easy to make an ROI-based decision. So, it's reasonably priced. We would like to have it cheaper, but we get more benefit from it than we pay for it. At the end of the day, that's all you can hope for."
"IBM Turbonomic is an investment that we believe will deliver positive returns."
"You should understand the cost of your physical servers and how much time and money you are spending year over year on expanding your virtual farm."
"What I can advise is to trial the product, taking advantage of the Turbonomic pre-sales implemention support and kickstart training."
"Everybody tells me the pricing is high. But the ROIs are great."
"I know there have been some issues with the billing, when the numbers were first proposed, as to how much we would save. There was a huge miscommunication on our part. Turbonomic was led to believe that we could optimize our AWS footprint, because we didn't know we couldn't. So, we were promised savings of $750,000. Then, when we came to implement Turbonomic, the developers in AWS said, "Absolutely not. You're not putting that in our environment. We can't scale down anything because they coded it." Our AWS environment is a legacy environment. It has all these old applications, where all the developers who have made it are no longer with the company. Those applications generate a ton of money for us. So, if one breaks, we are really in trouble and they didn't want to have to deal with an environment that was changing and couldn't be supported. That number went from $750,000 to about $450,000. However, that wasn't Turbonomic's fault."
"Price is a big one. VMTurbo was very competitively priced."
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"Our customer uses Oracle Universal Credits to pay for their license on an annual basis. The price is definitely affordable."
"The licensing costs are largely too high."
"The tool's pricing is competitive."
"I personally feel that the tool can be considered to be a little bit on the expensive side."
"The solution's pricing is fine."
"One has to pay for the enterprise version."
"it's neither expensive nor cheap."
"On a scale from one to ten, where one is cheap and ten is expensive, I rate the solution's pricing a six out of ten."
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Top Industries

By visitors reading reviews
Computer Software Company
18%
Financial Services Firm
16%
Manufacturing Company
9%
Insurance Company
6%
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Computer Software Company
19%
Financial Services Firm
11%
Government
10%
Educational Organization
8%
 

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Questions from the Community

What is your experience regarding pricing and costs for Turbonomic?
I have not seen Turbonomic's new pricing since IBM purchased it. When we were looking at it in my previous company be...
What needs improvement with Turbonomic?
I would like Turbonomic to add more services, especially in the cloud area. I have already told them this. They can a...
What is your primary use case for Turbonomic?
I mostly provide it to my clients. There are multiple reasons why they would use it depending on the client's needs a...
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What do you like most about Oracle Enterprise Manager Cloud Control?
The valuable feature is job scheduling. It manages the database's scheduling, history, and growth, helping monitor CP...
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Turbonomic, VMTurbo Operations Manager
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Sample Customers

IBM, J.B. Hunt, BBC, The Capita Group, SulAmérica, Rabobank, PROS, ThinkON, O.C. Tanner Co.
JDA Software, Morningstar, Orange Business Services, Wipro
Grupo Aeromexico SAB de CV, Grupo Arcor, Australian Finance Group Ltd., Cerner Corp., Bimbo S.A. de C.V., Kovaion Consulting India Pvt. Ltd., Shelf Drilling Ltd., Sascar, Banca Transilvania, UL
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