Fortinet FortiGate SWG vs Harmony SASE (formerly Perimeter 81) comparison

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Executive Summary
 

Categories and Ranking

Lookout
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Ranking in Secure Web Gateways (SWG)
24th
Average Rating
7.2
Number of Reviews
5
Ranking in other categories
Mobile Data Protection (7th), Cloud Access Security Brokers (CASB) (12th), Threat Intelligence Platforms (18th), Endpoint Detection and Response (EDR) (43rd), Mobile Threat Defense (2nd), ZTNA as a Service (13th), ZTNA (10th), Secure Access Service Edge (SASE) (18th)
Fortinet FortiGate SWG
Ranking in Secure Web Gateways (SWG)
4th
Average Rating
8.6
Number of Reviews
39
Ranking in other categories
No ranking in other categories
Harmony SASE (formerly Peri...
Ranking in Secure Web Gateways (SWG)
5th
Average Rating
8.8
Number of Reviews
55
Ranking in other categories
Firewalls (10th), Anti-Malware Tools (9th), Enterprise Infrastructure VPN (7th), ZTNA as a Service (3rd), ZTNA (1st), Secure Access Service Edge (SASE) (4th)
 

Mindshare comparison

As of June 2024, in the Secure Web Gateways (SWG) category, the mindshare of Lookout is 0.4%, up from 0.2% compared to the previous year. The mindshare of Fortinet FortiGate SWG is 8.1%, up from 7.0% compared to the previous year. The mindshare of Harmony SASE (formerly Perimeter 81) is 1.0%, down from 1.3% compared to the previous year. It is calculated based on PeerSpot user engagement data.
Secure Web Gateways (SWG)
Unique Categories:
Mobile Data Protection
7.1%
Cloud Access Security Brokers (CASB)
0.8%
No other categories found
Firewalls
0.1%
 

Featured Reviews

ML
Dec 22, 2022
Allows users to self-remediate security issues, maintaining their privacy and providing excellent vulnerability detection
We just submitted an enhancement request reflecting the main area we want to see improvement in; the APIs. Currently, we're able to build dashboards, but it's somewhat backward because we use our MDM API to create them. Lookout should provide APIs to customers so we can query our data and use it in the cloud, and this is the only outstanding area for improvement with the product right now. Another improvement could be a more streamlined activation process for Android and iOS; there are several prompts when activating the application on a new device, and if that could be adapted to one click, that would be beneficial.
Victor Hugo Morales Vivas - PeerSpot reviewer
May 17, 2023
Highly stable, quick setup, and helpful support
We are using Fortinet FortiGate SWG as a firewall This solution has helped our organization because it is connected to the internet and has provided us with stable VPNs and networking solutions. The most valuable feature of Fortinet FortiGate SWG is its stability. We are providing VoIP and the…
reviewer8099174 - PeerSpot reviewer
Oct 6, 2023
Secure access with an intuitive design and straightforward controls
My primary use case for Perimeter 81 is to have a secure remote workforce. With colleagues stationed across the globe, it ensures a secure network connection, enabling seamless remote work.  This is particularly vital for our multinational operations, as it guarantees that our team can access…

Quotes from Members

We asked business professionals to review the solutions they use. Here are some excerpts of what they said:
 

Pros

"On the outside, the main differentiation is because Lookout ingest. They have ingested basically all of the apps for the last ten years and all the versions of all the apps, and we have that in a corporate database that allows us to do very large-scale machine learning and analysis on that data set. That's not something that any of the competitors really have the capability to do because they don't have access to the data set. A lot of the apps you can no longer get them because that version of the app is five or six years old, and it just doesn't exist anywhere anymore, except within our infrastructure. So, the ability to have that very rich dataset and learn from that dataset is a real differentiator."
"The most valuable features are the antivirus as a whole, the anti-malware, and all of the protection features that scan our enterprise devices."
"The solution is stable."
"The protection offered by the product is the most valuable feature. It detects vulnerabilities or traps on our users' phones and then prompts them to clean up their devices. Tools we used previously would only discover, which required us to gather information on the backend, so Lookout is a welcome upgrade."
"The most useful features are application control, web filtering, and SD-WAN."
"FortiGate also makes GRE tunneling possible."
"The performance is very good and the solution is simple to manage."
"FortiGate is easy to use, and I also like its VPN."
"Fortinet FortiGate SWG's content is its most valuable feature."
"Customers keep on improving their licenses. The solution remains scalable and flexible. On-premises deployments may have some limitations. However, cloud deployments offer a high degree of flexibility."
"FortiGate SWG's most valuable feature is integration with vulnerability management."
"The most valuable feature of Fortinet FortiGate SWG is its stability."
"Perimeter 81 provides a very secure and non-disruptive experience."
"The benefits are really built into the underlying protocol, however, Perimeter81 makes these available in a user-friendly way."
"Providing access and security allows our company employees to work from home and remotely."
"Distributing the agent was very simple, allowing us to enforce security posture on our devices (i.e. S1, Disk-encryption, etc.)."
"The installation is very easy."
"What I like about Harmony Connect is that every packet through the network is screened and filtered so that only clean packets can enter the PC. This is useful for a variety of security reasons because you no longer need to worry about things like DDoS attacks."
"Harmony SASE helps us to manage compliance by regulating the amount of access to each department and user. We control the relevant apps and websites, which can be accessed from company-owned devices. Harmony SASE uses its own threat intelligence data from the cloud for threat prevention, and detect and manage threats with their own threat intelligence data and SASE firewall features."
"It is a very stable solution."
 

Cons

"Lookout was moving into the SSE space. And so their work on SecureWeb Gateway and SD-WAN is still sort of evolving."
"From the analysis that we've done, they do seem to be maybe a step behind in trying to enter the market with a new solution. But when they do pick up, they do come out with some good products."
"We just submitted an enhancement request reflecting the main area we want to see improvement in; the APIs. Currently, we're able to build dashboards, but it's somewhat backward because we use our MDM API to create them. Lookout should provide API to customers so we can query our data and use it in our cloud, and this is the only outstanding area for improvement with the product right now."
"The stability depends on the service from where you access it. Because sometimes, the place you are in, you have Gateway. You don't have Gateway. The gateway is overutilized. At the end, you need to go through their gateways. And this is the key point here. You have a tracking point. If it's not well orchestrated, and it scales up as you add more to the existing team, you will suffer"
"They should consider making some improvements regarding the pricing."
"Fortinet FortiGate SWG could improve the price, it is expensive."
"The solution is expensive."
"Fortinet FortiGate SWG's SSL offloading features need improvement."
"The solution has many heightened points which we cannot get to without working on CLI."
"The product’s price is high."
"It is complicated to manage different kinds of on-premise boxes."
"Fortinet FortiGate SWG should be localised to specific regions to comply with local data privacy regulations because of the data privacy rules in the countries. In the Middle East, data organisation and KFA requirements are stringent."
"I have found that the log-in/out process takes quite some time."
"What would be useful would be a notification/warning that a session is due to timeout after exceeding the default connection limit."
"Although the interface is user-friendly, further simplification and customization options tailored for non-technical users would benefit smaller firms without dedicated IT teams. Intuitive dashboards and guided setups can help in reducing the learning curve."
"The support is not very good."
"The suspend feature needs more control."
"I'd love to learn more about all of the features. Maybe a monthly spotlight of features or having a banner that explains more ways certain features could be used would be helpful."
"Its initial setup process is complex for a hybrid environment."
"When it comes to firewall configuration, sometimes we encounter issues."
 

Pricing and Cost Advice

"The licensing costs are good. Prisma has much more options and support for security, but it has a higher cost. For example, Lookout costs 2/3rd of Prisma's licensing price."
"In terms of feature performance versus cost, they're a good value."
"Lookout is definitely on the lower end when it comes to price point and that seems to be the only differentiator. The technology is in place in this space and it's really about who is coming in at the better price point now."
"The pricing is fair; it's comparable to our previous solution, and we carried out multiple POCs and POVs (proof of value). The product is worth the money we pay for it."
"It is around $50,000 per month."
"The price is relatively expensive compared to other solutions which are providing similar features."
"I rate the product's pricing a seven out of ten. The additional cost depends on the extra feature requirements."
"When comparing this solution to others, I would rate it a ten out of ten in terms of pricing. However, the issue of requiring a separate license for redundancy is a drawback, and I would rate it a nine out of ten."
"The pricing for this solution is reasonable."
"FortiGate SWG is a cost-effective solution well-suited for organisations of all sizes."
"There is a need to pay for a license for the product."
"Pricing for Fortinet FortiGate SWG is more suitable for enterprise or large-sized organizations because they are the ones who can afford it versus small and medium-sized organizations."
"The product is reasonably priced."
"The product is neither cheap nor expensive."
"The pricing of Check Point is relatively high when compared to other competitors like Palo Alto and Fortinet. While Palo Alto may be on the higher side in terms of cost, Check Point's pricing is similar to that of Fortinet. In some cases, Check Point offers better value for the features it provides. We initially considered other options but ultimately decided to purchase hardware that came with three years of iOS. This approach eliminated the need for any additional costs associated with Check Point. I would rate it 10 out of 10."
"Overall I am very happy with the solution’s flexibility and pricing."
"The cost of the solution's licenses depends on the particular use cases."
"The product's pricing model accommodates diverse needs and deployment sizes."
"Perimeter 81 charges separately for gateways and VPN connectivity, but compared to Azure, it seemed more reasonable."
"The pricing is good, especially when you compare it to other firewall or UTM solutions from FortiGate or SonicWall, where you would have to invest about four hundred thousand rupees for 100 users over a three-year period."
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Top Industries

By visitors reading reviews
Computer Software Company
19%
Manufacturing Company
10%
Financial Services Firm
10%
Government
6%
Computer Software Company
16%
Government
9%
Comms Service Provider
8%
Manufacturing Company
6%
Computer Software Company
21%
Financial Services Firm
7%
Manufacturing Company
7%
Security Firm
6%
 

Company Size

By reviewers
Large Enterprise
Midsize Enterprise
Small Business
No data available
 

Questions from the Community

What is your experience regarding pricing and costs for Lookout?
The licensing costs are good. Prisma has much more options and support for security, but it has a higher cost. For ex...
What needs improvement with Lookout?
The solution could improve identity integration as well. Zero trust, it's a good start as a zero-trust solution. More...
What do you like most about Fortinet FortiGate SWG?
The interface and other reports are all user-friendly.
What is your experience regarding pricing and costs for Fortinet FortiGate SWG?
The renewable is lower because the market doesn’t accept it publicly.
What do you like most about Perimeter 81?
Even after restarting, it tries to quickly reestablish connection which is very helpful.
What is your experience regarding pricing and costs for Perimeter 81?
It's essential to consider the organization's specific requirements and budget. Here are some general recommendations...
What needs improvement with Perimeter 81?
In terms of improvement, Perimeter 81 could enhance its reporting and analytics capabilities to provide more detailed...
 

Also Known As

CipherCloud
FortiGate SWG, FortiGate Secure Web Gateway
Check Point Quantum SASE
 

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Sample Customers

Salt Lake County, Catholic College Bendigo, Azienda Unita Sanitaria
Aqua Security, Cognito, Multipoint, Kustomer, Postman, Meredith
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