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it_user896988 - PeerSpot reviewer
Head of IT Procurement at a renewables & environment company with 5,001-10,000 employees
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We are able to let users access the system and manage jobs: self-service
Pros and Cons
  • "You can let users access the system and manage jobs: self-service."

    What is our primary use case?

    Primary use case is automation, and it has performed fine.

    How has it helped my organization?

    I don't think it has actually maybe improved anything. It's a generic product. It just has some nice features. We could use a normal scheduler, like DOS, for the type of work we are doing but that would prevent self-service from users in the business, so that's why we are using BMC.

    What is most valuable?

    You can let users access the system and manage jobs: self-service.

    What needs improvement?

    I don't think that we're actually looking for new features. I think we are more looking for a better cost/license/performance model because BMC, while we could say it's the best, is also the most expensive.

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    For how long have I used the solution?

    More than five years.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    It's just like anything else in that league. It's very stable. We are not experiencing instability or crashes. These are mature products.

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    The scalability is excellent.

    How are customer service and support?

    Technical support is excellent. We called them two times in a year and there was a reply within 30 minutes, so that's good.

    What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

    The only thing we would object to are the license costs. That is what we are probably most annoyed with. We are paying something like €1,000,000 over three years for having 4,000 jobs running. That's expensive.

    What other advice do I have?

    If you can afford it, it's good. If you do have an unlimited budget, or budget is not the main concern, and you want stability then I would say go for this. It's easy to use, it's easy to install, it's easy to run, it's easy to operate. I have a student assistant who had six hours of e-learning and she can run the system. That's good. Yes, you need the right student assistant but she doesn't have any IT background. It's very easy to use but also an expensive product.

    In terms of criteria when selecting a vendor, if I am to decide the vendor, it would be the biggest bang for the buck and then it would be quality, stability, and support. That is my job as manager of the IT department and therefore I have to ensure that we are getting the most value for the money.

    The only reason I am rating it eight out of 10 is simply the cost. From a technical point of view, we could actually make the same jobs run from the DOS prompt, with the same stability. I think that we are paying a lot for having self-service, for having nice monitoring. I think we're paying a lot for that.

    Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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    Chuck Seeley - PeerSpot reviewer
    Chuck SeeleyBatch Tools Analyst at a tech services company
    Real User

    Hello.
    I've read through your article and have a potential suggestion. If you haven't looked closely at your contract with BMC for Control-M, you should, and find out exactly what contributes to the licensing cost.

    If you don't have that contract and/or don't fully understand the language within, reach out to your BMC Account Manager and ask for details as to how that costs are calculated.

    Also, as Head of IT Procurement, you may or may not understand the language of Control-M and its implications as stated by the contract.

    Suggestion here would be to collaborate with your Control-M experts internal to your company (perhaps even along with BMC), to reach a better understanding.

    Once everyone has a complete understanding, your Control-M experts may have some ideas as to better managing the Control-M environment to help mitigate some of those seemingly high licensing costs.

    That said, my feeling is Control-M (and BMC's add-on solutions to Control-M) is an outstanding product and has many capabilities, so make sure you're also getting everything out of it you can.

    Good luck !

    it_user514314 - PeerSpot reviewer
    Assistant Director at a financial services firm with 10,001+ employees
    Real User
    We execute more than 30k jobs through a single window.

    How has it helped my organization?

    It provides a single point of control for the entire organization’s batch processing, helping to shorten the batch processing window and achieve a “manage by exception” operation environment. At my current organization, our batch processing requirement is too technically diversified and has to be supported 24/7. With Control-M, we are able to handle the customer demand and execute 30k-plus jobs through a single window.

    For how long have I used the solution?

    I have been using the solution for 10 years, including earlier versions.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    I have encountered very few stability issues; it’s highly stable.

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    Scalability is good.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    I find technical support to be knowledgeable and willing to provide assistance for any and all queries.

    Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

    I did not previously use a different solution at my current organization. However, I have experience working CA Autosys.

    How was the initial setup?

    The installation is panel-driven and can be used by a relatively inexperienced technician to install it successfully.

    What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

    It’s well suited for anywhere and anyone, but it comes with a cost; it is quite pricey.

    Which other solutions did I evaluate?

    Before choosing this product, I did not evaluate other options.

    What other advice do I have?

    Control-M is very stable. It is rare to have any issues with the application. Nonetheless, the bigger the workload, the more a tool like Control-M is needed or else it’s too pricey.

    Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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    it_user326337 - PeerSpot reviewer
    it_user326337Customer Success Manager at PeerSpot
    Consultant

    Can you identify features in the software that make its high cost worth the expense?

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    Senior Technologist at a energy/utilities company with 5,001-10,000 employees
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    The user interface is very easy to navigate. The batch team is now able to run an average of 1,500 jobs per day .

    What is most valuable?

    The user interface is very easy to navigate.

    How has it helped my organization?

    The batch team is now able to run an average of 1,500 jobs per day with incidents automatically created and routed to the correct team if a job fails or has an error.

    What needs improvement?

    The process to apply patches and upgrades is cumbersome. It feels like there could be a simpler or more streamlined way to apply patches.

    For how long have I used the solution?

    We have been using Control-M for almost a year.

    What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

    The deployment went smoothly.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    We are having issues with failover working correctly but we are working with BMC Support.

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    No.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    Customer Service:

    Customer service tries to be helpful. They tend to shy away from many tasks that BMC feels falls into "Customizations". Anything that differs from the OOB is hard to get help with.

    Technical Support:

    Most of the technicians seem to be highly capable.

    Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

    The previous solution was no longer supported.

    What about the implementation team?

    We used BMC for the implementation.

    What was our ROI?

    ROI is unclear at this time as the software has been in use less than a year.

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    Business Service Management Architect at a tech consulting company with 1,001-5,000 employees
    Consultant
    Offers high availability through software, supported by an Oracle RAC with ASM.

    What is most valuable?

    High availability through software, supported by an Oracle RAC with ASM, is a valuable feature. In operation, it is fantastic.

    How has it helped my organization?

    My clients are happy; the comment that gets repeated is, "Control-M is a very stable tool".

    What needs improvement?

    The web console consumes resources to my "high" point of view. Thinking about a totally web management environment is an opportunity for improvement.

    For how long have I used the solution?

    • Operator = 2 years
    • Scheduling = 3 years
    • Administrator = 3 years

    What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

    Implementation was easy and quick.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    We have not encountered any stability issues. BMC Control-M is very stable in any version.

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    BMC Control-M is an easy-to-run, scalable, robust platform or architecture tool.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    Customer Service:

    Customer service is the best.

    Technical Support:

    Technical support is the best.

    Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

    Previously, I had version 8, and I migrated to version 9 because of its high availability functionality.

    How was the initial setup?

    You cannot be an airplane pilot without education; with the right education and training, the solution does what it has to do and makes it fantastic.

    What about the implementation team?

    Providers implemented it; they were excellent.

    What was our ROI?

    I cannot mention ROI.

    What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

    A good product always has a cost. I think the cost supports the efficiency of the product.

    Which other solutions did I evaluate?

    Before choosing this product, we did not evaluate other options.

    What other advice do I have?

    Is a very good option for the WLA tasks within a company. There is a lot of information on the internet for it. Analyze the costs vs the benefits and if you have the option to invest in a solution that gives you automation of almost everything in IT, acquire it. You will not regret it.

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    Control-M Analyst at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees
    Consultant
    It supports a range of job types and integrates with other products such as Hadoop and SAS.

    What is most valuable?

    The GUI interface is exceptional, beating any of the competitors’ products I have used. Also, the range of job types and integration with other products such as Hadoop, SAS, databases, etc. is very useful.

    How has it helped my organization?

    With the release of V9, we have been able to better use the features of the Hadoop product, allowing developers to use native Oozie workflows from within the product.

    What needs improvement?

    It is probably one of the most expensive solutions available and many of the extra functionality, such as Self-Service and BIM, are chargeable extras. It would be great if these were thrown in for free.

    For how long have I used the solution?

    I have used it for 18 years.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    Initially, we encountered stability issues with the V9 install, but this could be more to do with the VM infrastructure and networks than Control-M.

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    We did not really encounter any scalability issues; it is very scalable, especially with agentless technology.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    Support has been very good in my experience.

    Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

    I have used other products in other contracts, but the only experience I have of switching products was removing Control-M in favour of OPC, as it was a lot cheaper.

    How was the initial setup?

    It is a complex product but for the most part, setup is reasonably straightforward. Some add-ins such as the BPI module can be quite challenging.

    What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

    I have little experience with the licensing but I know it is expensive!

    Which other solutions did I evaluate?

    Before choosing this product, I did not evaluate other options. As a contractor who specialises in Control-M, I tend to work for companies who already use it.

    What other advice do I have?

    Use it. It’s the best out there from my experience.

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    Produktionssteuerung at a wellness & fitness company with 10,001+ employees
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    Some of the valuable features are job scheduling, self-service, and workload archiving.

    What is most valuable?

    • Job scheduling in general
    • Self-service
    • Workload archiving

    How has it helped my organization?

    We rely on Control-M in our production environment. The automated notification in a case of an error has helped us a lot in reducing downtime and erasing errors.

    What needs improvement?

    Support for Z/OS output.

    For how long have I used the solution?

    The company has used Control-M since the late 90s.

    What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

    I did not encounter any issues with deployment.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    The GUI had some problems in the early stages, but those seemed to have been solved.

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    I did not encounter any issues with scalability.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    Customer Service:

    I would give customer service a rating of 8/10. They are very good.

    Technical Support:

    I would give technical support a rating of 8/10. They are very good.

    Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

    We did not use a previous solution.

    How was the initial setup?

    The setup was straightforward.

    What about the implementation team?

    We implemented via a vendor team and in-house. The vendor teams we had were excellent.

    What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

    Ask for packages and bundles, so you might get more plugins for one price.

    Which other solutions did I evaluate?

    We did not evaluate any other options.

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    it_user512913 - PeerSpot reviewer
    Consultant at a tech services company with 10,001+ employees
    Consultant
    It acts as the mediator between the applications and the servers.

    What is most valuable?

    • AFT
    • Job scheduling with various platforms
    • Blending options for module compatibility

    Although I work with various modules for Control-M, i.e., SAP, Informatica, DB, OS, and Windows. We can't do AFT with either Windows scheduler nor with Linux cron jobs. Control-M is the center for all of the applications, where it acts as the mediator between the application and the servers. Not only is it secure, but there are various major applications we can work on.

    How has it helped my organization?

    All tasks related to Windows scheduler and Unix (linux) cron jobs are converted with BMC Control-M scheduling.

    What needs improvement?

    Version compatibility is one of the very few areas with room for improvement, but it is a big issue with minimum support. When we need to upgrade the product, we have to follow the exact Control-M prerequisites.

    For plenty of applications, there are limits. Control-M uses options for configuring items such as the remote host for servers in the DMZ.

    For how long have I used the solution?

    I have used it for 4+ years.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    I have not encountered any stability issues.

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    I have not encountered any scalability issues.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    Currently technical support is awesome, 100%.

    Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

    I did not previously use a different solution, such as Autosys and IBM Tivoli.

    How was the initial setup?

    Initial setup is easy to understand for any end user who does not have any prior knowledge of the product.

    What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

    Pricing and licensing depends on the infrastructure and the jobs they can purchase.

    Which other solutions did I evaluate?

    Before choosing this product, I did not evaluate other options.

    What other advice do I have?

    It is an awesome product in the automation area, very robust and user friendly.

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    it_user500652 - PeerSpot reviewer
    Production Control Analyst with 501-1,000 employees
    MSP
    It gave us the tools to work toward more tightly integrating processes that were unnecessarily dependent on each other.

    What is most valuable?

    • The GUI interface with the ability to oversee the whole enterprise in a graphical way
    • The ability to create filters for applications and groups
    • The ability to zoom in and out within applications or the whole enterprise

    These make automation and scheduling troubleshooting easier.

    How has it helped my organization?

    Well, I am no longer with that company, but it gave us the tools to see the big picture and work toward more tightly integrating processes that were unnecessarily dependent on each other.

    It allowed us to automate responses and or trigger different processes based on different outcomes of the same job or process.

    What needs improvement?

    Version 8 introduced a whole new set of features that required more processing power, creating what I call "dead weights" that, if not interpreted in the right way, can cause duplication of processes. I am pretty confident that, knowing their track record, the issue was addressed in later revisions.

    For how long have I used the solution?

    I used it for 15-plus years.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    I did not encounter any stability issues. The "dead weights" that I referred to above were in the scheduling development side of the product and did not affect the live processes.

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    I did not encounter any scalability issues.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    Technical support was very good, 8/10.

    I had a minor issue with their online interface for opening problem tickets. Their website at the time was horrible. (I hope it has been fixed.) I did let them know it would take you in circles without ever actually opening the ticket. This to the point that you had to eventually call and wait for someone to call you back so that the ticket was established. Then, you would send all the doc explaining the issue. Then, they would ask you to provide a ton of stuff, such as logs. Then, once you sent them that, they would tell you that it was an automated response and that they really did not need all that. In their defense, this only happen occasionally; otherwise I would have given them a 4 out of 10.

    Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

    I personally did have experience with a few different scheduling packages, but none came close to providing the overall enterprise scale of Control-M.

    I did not switch, the switch was on when I joined the company.

    How was the initial setup?

    While I was not involved in its original implementation from scratch, I did arrive in the early stages and once I had a grip on the functionality and its tools, it was fairly easy. I am sure the installation and first implementation came with challenges.

    What was our ROI?

    That part can be tricky as I did not handle it. I do know that it may be expensive in the beginning, but, once you have it implemented and use it to its full or close to its full potential, it will save money in the long run.

    Which other solutions did I evaluate?

    I was not involved in the process, but the move was from CA7, and I know that ESP, Jobtrac, and Zeke among others were considered.

    What other advice do I have?

    Go for it.

    Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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