it_user1220727 - PeerSpot reviewer
Interface Developer at a energy/utilities company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
Good organizational management functionality and technical support
Pros and Cons
  • "The most valuable feature is Organizational Management (OM)."
  • "This solution needs to be more configurable and user-friendly."

What is our primary use case?

We use SAP HCM to store and manage organizational data such as OM data, job profile data, solution data, HC data, and call center data.

Currently, we are in the process of migrating our SAP HR system to Workday. This is the process that I am involved in at the moment.

What is most valuable?

The most valuable feature is Organizational Management (OM).

What needs improvement?

This solution needs to be more configurable and user-friendly.

People who work with HCM need to have the proper knowledge of coding.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using SAP HCM for more than two years.

Buyer's Guide
SAP HCM
April 2024
Learn what your peers think about SAP HCM. Get advice and tips from experienced pros sharing their opinions. Updated: April 2024.
769,662 professionals have used our research since 2012.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The scalability is good. We have between 1,000 and 3,000 users.

How are customer service and support?

I have been in touch with technical support once or twice. Our problems were resolved very fast so I would say that the support is good.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We are currently in the process of migrating to Workday, which is more user-friendly.

The two solutions are similar; Workday has improved on some of the things that SAP can do, whereas SAP can do some things more efficiently. Also, SAP can do some things that Workday cannot. One example is the address formatting. For example, in India, the format of addresses is different than in the US and some other countries. We have had challenges mapping the addresses to Workday from SAP.

With Workday, you do not need to be a program developer.

What other advice do I have?

SAP HCM is a solution that I recommend. It is a good product, but if it were more configurable and you did not need to develop as much code then it would be better.

I would rate this solution an eight out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: Partner
PeerSpot user
Owner at Simply HR
Real User
Easy to scale out to three different regions and pull reports based on those regions
Pros and Cons
  • "The master data where most of the reports were run from was the most valuable. We were quite satisfied with this module."
  • "It is a bit tedious and manual to work with."

What is our primary use case?

I was using it mostly to keep the employee data and employee qualifications.

We were using the on-premise version.

How has it helped my organization?

We were able to pull a report this year that included region and status. We were able to give that report to the head of our HR.

What is most valuable?

The master data where most of the reports were run from was the most valuable. We were quite satisfied with this module.

What needs improvement?

It is a bit tedious and manual to work with.

At first, it was impossible for us to pull up a report of employees by status and region, though this was eventually fixed. Going forward, they should fix more things in the reports. E.g., I want to see on the reports the age of the employees, their position, their salary with their salary scales, and any promotions that they have had. People want to see these reports.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using it for three to four years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The stability was nice.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It was easy to scale out to three different regions.

There were about 50 users, but about 10 to 15 users were executives approving the subworkflow in the system.

How are customer service and technical support?

The support wasn't that good. The implementation team didn't want to respond to issues. It took about three days to come and help us understand the system. 

How was the initial setup?

I think they used the SAP acceleration methodology for setup, but I joined the organization after the setup.

The deployment took a year to make it fully work.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

Go for SuccessFactors. It is the easiest to run, quite flexible, and user friendly.

By the time I was leaving the company, they were planning on buying new equipment (probably SuccessFactors). This depends on government budget though.

What other advice do I have?

It can be used for personnel demonstration, time management, and business development.

Without systems nowadays, especially in HR, I've a problem because most decisions in HR are made based on data. If you don't have data to report on, that means the business' success will not be supported by data.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
PeerSpot user
Buyer's Guide
SAP HCM
April 2024
Learn what your peers think about SAP HCM. Get advice and tips from experienced pros sharing their opinions. Updated: April 2024.
769,662 professionals have used our research since 2012.
it_user521961 - PeerSpot reviewer
Deputy Chief Learning Officer at a government with 10,001+ employees
Vendor
The most valuable feature is ease of use.

What is most valuable?

  • Ease of use
  • Improved productivity of personnel, because we use SAP for our inventory

What needs improvement?

It's intuitive, but not as intuitive or user-friendly as it should be. It's 2017, and I should be able to click once and just breeze through it. It's far more complicated than it should be.

What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

I was not involved in the deployment of the product.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

I think it's extremely stable. That's one of the reasons why we like it so much. I've had some problems, as it has jammed up on me before.

Generally speaking, I think it's exceptionally reliable. The glitches that I've encountered may have been due to a user error, because it's not so user-friendly and it's not so intuitive.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

As far as I know, there is limitless scalability.

How is customer service and technical support?

The technical support is a little slow, like 24 hours. I feel since it is 2017, if I have a problem, I should be able to make a phone call or send an email and get a response within minutes, an hour at the most. When things take a day, it slows me down. The problem resolution itself is OK.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

I was not involved in the evaluation of any other products.

What other advice do I have?

  • Take your time.
  • Learn it as well as you can so that you don't encounter problems.
  • Try to learn as much as you can prior to jumping into it.
  • Have contact information for when you have a problem.
  • Just know what you're doing because it's good. It's just not so user-friendly and the response time on a problem is slow.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
PeerSpot user
Executive Manager & CO. Founder at Phoenix Consulting
Vendor
Some capabilities are self-service for the employees which cuts down on administrative time
Pros and Cons
  • "HCM is a very important module that each organization should want to use. It will help any organization to calculate and control the cost of their human resources."
  • "SAP now does the most innovation for the cloud solution and less innovation for the on-premises client."

What is our primary use case?

I'm an SAP consultant and I have companies in Egypt and France that do SAP consultancy. We are specialists in SAP activities, SAP implementation, network building for HCM finance controlling, warehouse management, SAP retail plus migration of projects, BI, and strategic management. We have all these capabilities in our company and use them to help clients make the most of their SAP HCM implementations.  

Human Capital Management is a powerful tool for organization management. It helps to define the organizational structure and support the company. It helps with the administration of things like maintaining employee information, tracking education and learning, administering insurance and healthcare, and all other facets of human resources. It helps monitor a lot of things that would otherwise take a lot of time and effort to make them not just easier, but automated.  

One of the most powerful tools in SAP is its integration with finance and other modules. Some of the capabilities are self-service for the employees which cut down on administrative time. For example, scheduling vacation leaves is done by the employee directly and the notification process and approval are all automated.  

The most interesting change to SAP is that it is now all available on the cloud. Before it was only on-premises. Cloud offers a lot more opportunity as well as potential cost reduction.  

My partners in the company were already leading HR consultants in the market in the Middle East when we formed our company. They were working with HCM locally in the Gulf and the Middle East. Our company has around six to seven permanently employed HR consultants. We sometimes use freelancers depending on the volume of our work and commitments.  

What is most valuable?

The most valuable features have to do with finance and payroll. Some organizations — like banking, insurance, and the government — are regulated and can not or do not want to host their critical financial data and employee data on the cloud. What we are doing right now for clients of this sort is we split the implementation to their advantage. We put financial and personal information management on-premises and the other information which is not critical — like learning, performance and setting goals — goes on cloud and we integrate those solutions. We use the cloud when data is not critical for security purposes and when it is not confidential. This can save the client money.  

What needs improvement?

This product has a lot of features that are much improved and more advanced than other solutions. In our area of the Gulf region and the Middle East, a lot of organizations depend on it because it meets with regulation compliance and security concerns. So government and banking depend on the SAP HCM solution for administration on-premises.  

SAP had developed new screens for the latest release of SAP HANA for HR on the cloud. They are doing the most innovation for HR on the cloud. So, there are some screens right now for both on-premises and cloud but the company is focused mostly on cloud development. A lot of the clients who deal with regulations must currently stay with on-premises solutions for critical data. SAP needs to continue trying from time-to-time to develop and release some new screens and new tools for HR on-premise that facilitate the working and interaction with the interface. They should do this in parallel with the cloud. Instead, they are leaving the on-premises customers behind.  

For the next release of HCM, I would like to see more interactive screens and parallel development for on-prem and cloud. SAP now does the most innovation for the cloud solution and less innovation for the on-premises client. In our experience and with our clients almost all customers depend on the on-premises solution for sensitive data — either by choice or regulation. It would be nice to see a mobile interface as well.  

For how long have I used the solution?

We have been using the solution collectively since before we opened our HR company in 2015. One of my partners started working in HR in 2003 and the other one started in 2006. We are all experienced in SAP HCM.  

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

We have never had any issues with the stability. We have no complaints as users and I have never heard any complaints from my customers.  

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It seems to me that it should be obvious that this product is very scalable just because it is made by SAP.  

How are customer service and technical support?

It is easy to contact technical support and get help. Within the license model, you are paying 22% of your license fees per year to SAP for their support. There is a marketplace for SAP that you will have access to. You will go to that marketplace with any issue to open your tickets. You can set the severity and urgency of the issue by selecting it on the form. Then you submit the ticket to SAP and according to the severity, SAP will contact you and try to solve the issue with you.  

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is not just the installation. It is also the business process configuration. This is what will take more time. An expert is required to set up many things properly. Someone who expert in HR and knows the business of HR and the business processes, but also has to know the region. If the person doing the configuration knows the laws and how to perfect configuration for the user group, it will be easy for him and better for the company after implementation. But if the person doing the configuration is not an expert, does not know the laws and how the HR process works, it will be difficult for him, it will take longer, and the customer will not be happy with the results.  

To deploy HCM, getting the setup right depends on the organization and attention to detail. If it is an organization with 500 employees and the solution will be used for payroll, personal administration and organization management, it could take something like four months to install this and configure it properly. This is if the guys doing the installation are experts in HR and the configuration of SAP.  

What about the implementation team?

We are the people who do the implementation and consultation and that is because we have worked a long time in the field and have become experts. Almost every customer who is coming to this product without knowing it well and what the capabilities are needs to seek the help of an integrator or consultant.  

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The cost may differ from region to region, but here in the Middle East, you pay per license. There not any costs in addition to the standard licensing fees. 

SAP HCM is on-prem. SAP has another solution which is called SuccessFactors. It is on the cloud and by subscription only. So SAP has two solutions, the one on cloud is SuccessFactors and HCM on-prem. SAP is pushing for clients to go to SuccessFactors right now. The cloud solution may save some people money.  

What other advice do I have?

At this time in the competitive business world, HCM is a very important module that each organization should want to use. It will help any organization to calculate and control the cost of their human resources. Human capital management allows control of when you want employees to work when you don't want them to work and keeps you aware of when they will be on leave so that their responsibilities will be covered by someone else. Businesses have to plan for things like this. A lot of things affect human capital and that can affect the course of an organization.  

On a scale from one to ten where one is the worst and ten is the best, I would rate HCM around nine out of ten. It is not a ten because of the issues with the interface development.  

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: Partner
PeerSpot user
CEO at a consumer goods company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
Support large user numbers, easy to manage, but price could improve
Pros and Cons
  • "SAP HCM can handle a large number of employees. We can easily process payrolls and check the arrangements, and the client can also check the performance of the employees. Additionally, it has some advanced features."

    What is our primary use case?

    We use SAP HCM as a human resources management system for tasks, such as payroll and attendance.

    What is most valuable?

    SAP HCM can handle a large number of employees. We can easily process payrolls and check the arrangements, and the client can also check the performance of the employees. Additionally, it has some advanced features. 

    It can be integrated into any platform and is very secure. It's very difficult to access SAP's database, and if anyone tries to log in, his computer's name and password amongst other information will be saved in the system. We can integrate your fingerprint in the system to automatically log in to the system. The integration is very good with other applications.

    For how long have I used the solution?

    I have been using SAP HCM for approximately six years.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    The solution is stable.

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    SAP HCM is scalable, the client can modify according to their needs.

    We have approximately 500 people using this solution.

    How are customer service and support?

    The support has been very good.

    How was the initial setup?

    You can implement SAP HCM in three months minimum, and if you need more customization, then it can take more time.

    What about the implementation team?

    We have up to thirty engineers available to do the implementation and maintenance of the solution. The size of the deployment dictates how many engineers we will need.

    What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

    The solution is a little expensive and we are charged per user for the license. The solution can be paid monthly or annually.

    What other advice do I have?

    I rate SAP HCM a seven out of ten.

    Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

    Public Cloud
    Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
    PeerSpot user
    Consultant at a consultancy
    Real User
    Good exception messages, reporting capability, and integration, but the interface needs to be modernized
    Pros and Cons
    • "The most valuable feature, in my view, is the level of exceptions or error messages that come back when something goes wrong."
    • "It takes a long time to apply an update patch to the system."

    What is our primary use case?

    We have an on-premises deployment.

    How has it helped my organization?

    The level of exception reporting has improved the process by helping to avoid errors. You can see where there is a lack of knowledge of the system because people are not updating the data correctly.

    What is most valuable?

    The most valuable feature, in my view, is the level of exceptions or error messages that come back when something goes wrong. 

    One of the valuable features is that it is integrated with a finance system, with journal and ledger integration. When you process, for example, payroll or costing then it can be posted directed into the finance system.

    There are lots of good features, including the reporting, as long as you know what to look for.

    What needs improvement?

    The interface is data-based and outdated, without many features, so it could be modernized.

    This solution is sufficiently complex that many end-users do not know how to operate it.

    It takes a long time to apply an update patch to the system. It is a headache for any functional users because it requires a lot of IT involvement. This is unlike other solutions where either I can do it, or for cloud-based deployments, the vendor can do it online. With the time required for patching and testing, the internal IT teams sometimes try to avoid it and then perform patching only once or twice a year. In the meantime, the business is doing things manually. 

    I recall that SAP was not that flexible when it came to creating the interface, or new tables,  because there were limitations when we were developing one of the new pension schemes. I remember that they were struggling to get things done. Also, when you do this, the internal business has to manually connect and configure whatever they've developed.

    This is a very costly solution.

    For how long have I used the solution?

    I have been using this solution for three years.

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    There were a lot of defects that I had to deal with because patches were coming out on a regular basis and it required a lot of time.

    I was heavily involved in UAT and there were lots of configuration issues. There were development requests and I had to deal with the developers directly, which was a bit of a headache.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    When I dealt with SAP directly, they were a little bit resistant to accepting the client's request for development. They said that it was due to lack of resources. The market share was small, so they didn't want to waste a lot of time.

    Eventually, after pushing them in the right directions, technical support was good and created what I needed. In general, it's not the system that fails, it's the people who are using the system.

    In the end, technical support does what needs to be done.

    Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

    I have used other solutions including Resourcelink and Agresso, and the differences between them depend on what the clients are looking for. For example, I have dealt with clients who are moving from SAP to Itron, and other clients moving from Itron to SAP.

    What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

    SAP costs a lot of money. In my view, this product is a waste of money for SMB because there are much better products available and licensing is an issue.

    I don't know how they come up with this pricing, but it is ridiculous. For example, if you want to have self-service for employees and managers then you need to pay for additional licenses.

    What other advice do I have?

    The performance is based on the user's knowledge of the system. It has to do with making sure that all of the features are enabled and all of the patches are there. There were quite a few defects that were patched by the IT team, and it was a lengthy process.

    This solution is for an enterprise-level business, and I would never recommend SAP for SMB. SAP ByDesign, which is a different product, is better for small business.

    Suitability of this system depends on a lot of variables. You would have to ask about ten thousand questions to consider the entire system and what is required. It comes down to whether the system is capable of adapting to the latest changes with legislation to do various things.

    Also, it depends on how many skilled employees you need to have. There are business analysists, for example, and others who spend hours, and years, learning the system and understanding all of the settings and permissions. There are profiles, wage types, and info types, that decide who can access work and workflows, batches, and stuff like this. It's like driving a ship, where there are lot of things to do and lots of details. On top of this, you will need a development person who can do some coding. It all depends, really, on what the business is trying to achieve. It is for these reasons that I say it is not for the small business. If they can afford it then fair enough, but it will cost them a lot, and it is not cost-effective.

    The biggest lesson that I have learned from using this solution is that you can trust no one. You can't trust the business, and you can't trust the people who support the system. I had to read a lot to prove that the system is capable of delivering certain functionality. People were objecting to this because they didn't want to get involved themselves.

    This is a huge product and you have to always be up to date. It requires a lot of time in learning the system and doing the testing of new developments.

    I would rate this solution a seven out of ten.

    Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
    PeerSpot user
    Specialist SAP Division at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees
    Real User
    Has user-friendly dashboards but it is very difficult to do custom development
    Pros and Cons
    • "The integration between the different models like personnel administration, work management, payroll, and time management are the most valuable and key features."
    • "On the personnel administration side, it's very difficult to do custom development."

    What is our primary use case?

    Our primary use case of SAP HCM is for administration benefits and talent management.

    What is most valuable?

    The integration between the different models like personnel administration, work management, payroll, and time management are the most valuable and key features. It's also very important to make sure that the data is correct as well, to make sure that you get the best out of the solution. 

    The interface is simple to use. It is quite easy. The dashboards are also user-friendly. 

    What needs improvement?

    The management side needs improvement. To me, I think people have underestimated this solution because we know what consists of all the objects in regards to the organizational structures, positions, departments, training, there could be better improvement on that. 

    On the personnel administration side, it's very difficult to do custom development. You're always dependent on your editors to do that. And now again, I'm comparing it to SuccessFactors because on SuccessFactors it's very easy to do. Any additional fields or stuff you want, they have the ability to apply all those changes. I would say that's where this solution really falls short. It makes the maintenance and the support of the system very complicated as well. There needs to be more support for the HCM solution. 

    For how long have I used the solution?

    I have been using this solution since 1996, so 23 years.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    The current on-prem solution is not that stable anymore because there is so much more work that the cloud offering has and you cannot do that with an on-prem solution. Very soon everybody is going to have to move to the cloud. 

    I believe that the on-prem solution is going to have to phase out. SAP is focusing now on the cloud solution. And that's the reason why I feel obscure on Employee Central.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    Technical support needs improvement. 

    How was the initial setup?

    The initial setup is not complex. It will mostly depend on your consultant. I wouldn't say it's that difficult. I probably also would give it a six out of a 10. It's not as easy as SuccessFactors. 

    What other advice do I have?

    I would rate it a seven out of ten. 

    The biggest lesson I have learned from using this solution is that integration is so important. You must understand integration, even within HCM between the different module.

    Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
    PeerSpot user
    it_user516576 - PeerSpot reviewer
    Director, Global Operations at a pharma/biotech company with 1,001-5,000 employees
    Real User
    The service support needs improvement due to slow responsiveness. Solution provides a breadth of services.

    What is most valuable?

    • Breadth of services
    • Ties to enterprise Finance and Supply Chain

    How has it helped my organization?

    Ensures a single source of data for downstream systems use.

    What needs improvement?

    Service support.

    For how long have I used the solution?

    15 years.

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    It is used globally for more than 80 countries.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    Responses for enhancements can be slow.

    Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

    PeopleSoft. We switched due to a move to global single instance across HR, Finance, Supply Chain and Project Management.

    How was the initial setup?

    The initial setup was complex due to the ties across the enterprise and a global implementation.

    What other advice do I have?

    Be careful to not overly customize, because this drives a high cost of ownership to maintain.

    Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
    PeerSpot user