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reviewer928458 - PeerSpot reviewer
Head of BI and Analytics at a manufacturing company with 501-1,000 employees
Real User
Useful SAP BW tool, easy to use, but Lumira dashboard tool needs improvement
Pros and Cons
  • "The most valuable feature we have found to be the SAP BW, which is a warehouse tool. Additionally, it is an easy tool to use."
  • "The dashboard tool is called Lumira and it is very uncomfortable for developers to use. They should improve this in the future."

What is our primary use case?

We are using SAP BusinessObjects Business Intelligence Platform for a lot of things, such as simple reports and business dashboards, and in all the business areas, for example, finance, sales, and purchasing.

What is most valuable?

The most valuable feature we have found to be the SAP BW, which is a warehouse tool. Additionally, it is an easy tool to use.

What needs improvement?

The dashboard tool is called Lumira and it is very uncomfortable for developers to use. They should improve this in the future.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using the SAP BusinessObjects Business Intelligence Platform for approximately five years.

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What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The stability is good. However, the performance could be better.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We have several hundred end-users using this solution and we use the solution on a daily basis.

The solution is scalable. We feel comfortable with the infrastructure that we have, but we can expand if we want to. 

How are customer service and support?

The technical support is good, I am satisfied.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

I previously use Oracle BI. I think the Oracle BI is stronger and has more functionality than SAP BusinessObjects Business Intelligence Platform. However, it does not connect to SAP ERP which is a disadvantage.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is simple, it took us two days to complete.

What about the implementation team?

The implementation, maintenance, and updates can be done by staff within the company. There are times we have used local support or integrators in our area.

What other advice do I have?

This solution is not meant to be very complicated, solutions that are complicated require other tools.

I rate SAP BusinessObjects Business Intelligence Platform a seven out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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reviewer1621293 - PeerSpot reviewer
Global Product Manager at a tech services company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
Good for reporting and translating data into business language, but difficult to set up
Pros and Cons
    • "The user interface should be easier to use and navigate."

    What is our primary use case?

    We primarily use the product for reporting and dashboards. We only have those two use cases, although there are other ways to use them.

    What is most valuable?

    I have a 24-hour company, and the business layer on top of the database can translate database data into business language so that people can easily understand what's happening. It allows us to quickly create reports without IT or programming skills.

    The stability is quite good.

    What needs improvement?

    According to our experience, SAP BO is too heavy and very difficult for customers with medium, or smaller-sized businesses to install and maintain. It is such a heavy reporting tool.

    Even though they provide the business layer, it's difficult for the programmer to create their own business layer. It's too complex for them. They need to simplify this.

    The user interface should be easier to use and navigate.

    The initial setup is difficult. 

    Technical support could be more responsive. 

    For how long have I used the solution?

    I've been using the solution for five years already. I've used it for quite a while. 

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    The stability is pretty good. There are no bugs or glitches. It doesn't crash or freeze. It's reliable and the performance is good. 

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    We only have three or four people who are using the solution at our company at this time. They are the admins and the ones who generate the reports for us. 

    We haven't really looked into scaling as the data volume is very limited. I can't speak to how easy it is to expand or how well it handles extremely large data sets.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    Technical support could be better. We tried to get them to help us with the implementation, and they were not quick to respond.

    Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

    We currently also work with Crystal Reports, which is dated, and Jasper, which is also not that great of a product.

    When we began to switch to SAP, we really wanted customization capabilities and we wanted the business layer. We needed something to provide a middle layer or translation layer so that people can generate reports much quicker, and, at the time, SAP was a good option.

    How was the initial setup?

    The initial setup is not easy. We need a very experienced developer and they need to get enough training from SAP in order to be able to do anything effectively. It's not like other reporting tools that are really easy to use or easy to install and maintain. This one is complex and takes work and inside knowledge. 

    There isn't too much maintenance required. You just need to update it every once in a while. 

    What about the implementation team?

    We needed some help implementing the solution, however, in the end, we weren't completely satisfied as the level of response time was slow. 

    What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

    I cannot speak to the exact cost of the product, as it's not an aspect of the solution I handle. 

    Which other solutions did I evaluate?

    We're currently looking at Power BI and Splunk among other options.

    What other advice do I have?

    We are SAP partners. 

    I use the latest version of the solution. I cannot speak to the exact version number.

    I wouldn't necessarily recommend the product to others. Even now, for ourselves, we are looking into an alternative option. 

    I would rate the solution at a six out of ten.

    Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

    On-premises
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    Narayansingh Bhandari - PeerSpot reviewer
    Manager IT (SAP) at CLASSIC MARBLE COMPANY PRIVATE LIMITED
    Real User
    Scalable with good technical support and excellent reporting features
    Pros and Cons
    • "The reporting features the solution offers are excellent."
    • "The solution could be less expensive. It's a bit pricey now."

    What is our primary use case?

    We primarily use the solution for reports regarding sales inventory and production.

    What is most valuable?

    The reporting features the solution offers are excellent.

    Technical support is quite good. They are responsive when we reach out.

    The solution can scale.

    What needs improvement?

    We are not on the latest patch, the latest version. There are different pain points, such as data loading or inventory issues. It can take a lot of time to load.

    The solution could be less expensive. It's a bit pricey now.

    For how long have I used the solution?

    We've been using the solution at the company for around six or seven years at this point. However, I've only used it for the last two years or so.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    The stability isn't quite as good as it could be. It's not a perfectly scalable solution.

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    The solution is very easy to expand. It scales quite well. If a company needs to expand the solution, it can do so relatively easily.

    I'm the only one who is using this solution and I'm publishing the reports and a few others are using Microsoft Analysis for SAP, doing the reports.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    I've used technical support in the past. I've found them to be responsive and knowledgeable. They are quite helpful. We're satisfied with the level of service we receive.

    How was the initial setup?

    I was not a part of the initial setup. I can't speak to how long the deployment was or how easy or difficult the process ended up being.

    In terms of upgrading, we have no need to at this point. 

    What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

    Licensing is paid on a yearly basis.

    There is room for improvement in the pricing. It could be more reasonable.

    What other advice do I have?

    We're just an end-user and a customer. We don't have a business relationship with SAP.

    We are not yet on the latest version of the product.

    I would advise new users to not go for these old versions and instead go for the new versions that at least use embedded analytics, et cetera.

    I'd rate the solution at around seven out of ten. There are a few areas it could improve upon.

    Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

    On-premises
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    reviewer1414839 - PeerSpot reviewer
    EAM Executive at a educational organization with 5,001-10,000 employees
    Real User
    A scalable solution for large organizations
    Pros and Cons
    • "SAP BusinessObjects Business Intelligence Platform is definitely scalable."
    • "There should be more integration with other platforms."

    What is our primary use case?

    Right now, we're using SAP BusinessObjects Business Intelligence Platform for an in-house project — we don't have any customers. 

    I work for an educational institute — in the main reporting area. I create different reports based on student performance using exam results and other data from various schools. In our university, we have around 20 different departments. One for Computer Science, one for Engineering, one for Audio Civil, one for Electronics, etc. I was planning to build a consolidated report that would show how our students are performing compared to other schools — a consolidated view. Then I can drill down further into individual fields. 

    What is most valuable?

    Big organizations can implement Business Warehouse on the cloud. Small organizations, like educational institutes, don't have that much complex data, so it doesn't make sense for them to buy Data Warehouse on the cloud. We want to use HANA and something called SLT. This will cover our replication and allows us to do modeling directly in the cloud, which is a great feature. 

    What needs improvement?

    As the technology stands, and from what I have researched at this particular point in time, companies that don't have much complex transaction data available on a day-to-day basis, don't need Business Warehouse or Data Warehouse on the cloud. We want to use SAP Analytics Cloud directly and do our data modeling on HANA Data Modular. This would really help because we wouldn't need separate licensing for Data Warehouse and for SAP, etc. We could remove all of this. We could do everything with HANA and SAP.

    There should be more integration with other platforms. 

    Everybody wants to use SAP Business Intelligence. Because we need a Business Warehouse or a Data Warehouse, we have to create a universe consisting of everything that we'll use as an input in BI. For this reason, we have a lot of dependencies. We require connection with the two different platforms. If we were to use HANA, then we wouldn't need Business Warehouse or Data Warehouse — we could just use SAP Analytics Cloud. We could use SAP Analytics Cloud as a standalone solution for reporting purposes and we could also use Business Intelligence as a standalone solution for reporting. 

    This should be fixed so that companies don't require three separate licenses for three separate applications. Not everyone has that kind of a budget. It should be an all-in-one solution — this only turns away potential customers. If SAP provided a feature like standalone BI, we could use it directly, access ERP, get the data we need and start building reports. Single application licensed universities are ready to pay for that. But when it's three to four different applications, it's beyond their budget. 

    For how long have I used the solution?

    I have worked in data services for the last eight to nine years. 

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    I haven't used all of the features yet, so I can't answer this question properly. 

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    SAP BusinessObjects Business Intelligence Platform is definitely scalable. 

    How are customer service and technical support?

    I haven't connected with support because we're using it for an in-house project. We installed it and work on it ourselves so we haven't had to contact them regarding SAP. Regarding ERP issues they are proactively able to help clients. We're a client for SAP. They've been able to help us. 

    How was the initial setup?

    The initial installation is quite simple for me, but for inexperienced users, it may be difficult.

    What about the implementation team?

    At my previous job, I deployed this solution myself. Deployment took two to three days.

    What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

    As of now, we don't pay for a license. I think SAP has a program in which they give free access to Analytics Cloud for our university. Under that scheme, I have access to SAP Analytics Cloud, where I have explored different features; however, I don't have access to BI.

    Which other solutions did I evaluate?

    I am interested in SAP for the cloud because where I work, we have SAP ERP on the HANA Cloud. Currently, we don't have a license for SAP Analytics Cloud. That's why I'm exploring different methods to implement it. Currently, Business Warehouse is on-premise but I am planning to upgrade it to the cloud.

    What other advice do I have?

    Although I haven't been able to use the BI portion, I would give this solution rating of eight. 

    Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

    On-premises
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    Director at a tech services company with 11-50 employees
    Real User
    Robust in terms of security and integration, quite scalable, and good for building well-formatted reports
    Pros and Cons
    • "If I were to compare it with Power BI and I wanted to build proper well-formatted reports, BusinessObjects Business Intelligence does that much better. Power BI is just getting into that space. They've concentrated more on visualization, which is what the SAP Lumira does. With Web Intelligence, you are able to build reports that users can interact with. They can also do a lot of querying themselves. It is robust in terms of security and integration. It is also quite scalable."
    • "I don't like the fact that I have to use two tools. Web Intelligence is good for reporting and all kinds of stuff, but I would rather have one product. All the reporting features of Web Intelligence should be developed within Lumira. A lot of predictive abilities have been brought into the cloud version of SAP Analytics. It would be nice to see a lot of newer technologies and AI. Predictive capabilities are becoming a little more standard. Instead of having to get another model, we are just looking for one solution to deal with analytics including predictive."

    What is most valuable?

    If I were to compare it with Power BI and I wanted to build proper well-formatted reports, BusinessObjects Business Intelligence does that much better. Power BI is just getting into that space. They've concentrated more on visualization, which is what the SAP Lumira does. With Web Intelligence, you are able to build reports that users can interact with. They can also do a lot of querying themselves.

    It is robust in terms of security and integration. It is also quite scalable.

    What needs improvement?

    I don't like the fact that I have to use two tools. Web Intelligence is good for reporting and all kinds of stuff, but I would rather have one product. All the reporting features of Web Intelligence should be developed within Lumira.

    A lot of predictive abilities have been brought into the cloud version of SAP Analytics. It would be nice to see a lot of newer technologies and AI. Predictive capabilities are becoming a little more standard. Instead of having to get another model, we are just looking for one solution to deal with analytics including predictive.

    For how long have I used the solution?

    My first engagement with SAP BI was in 1998, so it has been more than 20 years.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    Its environment is quite robust, especially when it is on-premise.

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    SAP BI is quite scalable. It supports multiple servers and multiple combinations of landscapes. It is quite good. You can add more servers to get better performance. You can also separate services. You can separate the application server from the webserver. If you want to deploy a large on-premise setup, it would be the way to go.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    I work for an SAP partner company. We were the first SAP BusinessObjects partners in Nigeria, which is where I'm based. We've been partners since '98. Our goal as consultants is to be as self-sufficient as possible. We hardly need to get in touch with tech support because we are self-sufficient.

    How was the initial setup?

    The installation of SAP BI is an extensive function. Typically with an SAP installation, you need a combination of on-premise and cloud. The cloud functionality is still evolving and maturing. As compared to Power BI, it would take a lot more work. However, if I went the way of Lumira, I could use Lumira Desktop standalone, and I get to use the features.

    What about the implementation team?

    We have our own team for maintenance within our company. We used to have five people, but we have scaled down to just two full-time employees. We also have a number of people who are available on request.

    What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

    I have always found SAP BI to be expensive. It is expensive even when you compare SAP BI Cloud with Microsoft Power BI. Power BI is probably around $9.99 per month, and the cheapest SAP BI is around $20, which is double. In terms of price, Power BI is definitely a lot better. If you have budget issues, you may want to go for Power BI.

    What other advice do I have?

    I will be a bit biased, and I would definitely recommend SAP BI. It is a bit more robust and mature as compared to Power BI. Power BI keeps changing every day, which is not a bad thing considering how old it is. For a serious setup, I would rather use SAP BI, but I look forward to having one tool rather than two.

    I would rate SAP BusinessObjects Business Intelligence Platform an eight out of ten.

    Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

    On-premises
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    Software Engineer at KIS Ltd
    Real User
    Good reporting and promotes a common view of information across the organisation
    Pros and Cons
    • "The common metadata environment means that the entire organisation has the same definition of core measures rather than these being derived in spreadsheets or specific reports."
    • "This solution is complex to configure and administer."

    What is our primary use case?

    I have several use cases, generally in more complex environments. These are typically corporate, requiring functionality such as strong data security, bursting, metadata-based support, scalability, fault tolerance, load balancing, support for high volume, breadth of functionality in one set of products, etc. 

    It has been used in Retail, Construction, Banks, and Insurance organisations.

    It works well for organisations where a structured, common, and more disciplined view of larger, more complex information is required. This is generally with more complex and multiple source systems with larger volumes of information.

    How has it helped my organization?

    This solution provides much greater and faster access to information for a wide mixture of users. It supports and promotes a common view of information across the organisation. It also removes dependence on spreadsheets and technical resource for report generation.

    It supports a wide range of types of users. It is particularly effective for information consumers. Ad Hoc information access and simpler self-service are well supported. Once we had the foundation in place, we also found we could provide most reports in under an hour for smaller company environments. Because of change control, the latter rarely happens in corporate environments but the effort involved was reduced.

    What is most valuable?

    The common metadata environment means that the entire organisation has the same definition of core measures rather than these being derived in spreadsheets or specific reports. It also provides a structured data security model whereby a single report provides dedicated results to a given usage, such as a branch or department-based. For instance, the same report will provide a branch-specific result depending on the user's branch and can be common to multiple branches.

    Similarly, bursting enables provision of tailored static reporting to specific users or user groups that also includes data security.

    What needs improvement?

    This solution is complex to configure and administer. It is even more so, I believe, than it should be, even with such a complex product. As an example it has many server processes (typically 15+). In Windows these are not services rather they are individual processes managed via a single service called the SIA. Each server process can be separately configured and performs a specific set of functions

    It uses Java constructions for specific customisations such as default reporting formats and using SSL for burst email reports. This requires a broad set of skills to set-up.

    It is rather cryptic in its error handling when there are issues that require trawling through a number of voluminous log files that are accessed from the server.

    For how long have I used the solution?

    I have been using this solution for more than ten years.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    Reliability dropped in 2017-2018 with a major release but indications are that this has been addressed.

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    Very scalable across thousands (if not 10,000+) users and large data volumes.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    Average. Technical support from SAP is mediocre. The local support is decent.

    Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

    I've used many different BI solutions. The choice was the customer's. 

    How was the initial setup?

    See earlier comments but a vanilla install is not too complex.  The moment it is not vanilla it becomes quite complex. The SAP website for software management, downloads, licenses etc makes the Da Vinci Code look simple.

    What about the implementation team?

    Mix of contractors and vendor. The vendor is skillful though overworked resources.

    What was our ROI?

    No Idea

    What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

    Cost to setup and run is high as it is complex but then again one also gets a highly functional product. SAP do have a small business pricing so, at least, the licensing is not too expensive.

    Which other solutions did I evaluate?

    The most comparable product is MicroStrategy, which is frankly a better technical product but has not been as commercially successful outside of large sites.

    What other advice do I have?

    I am a great believe in choosing a commercially successful product rather than technical best of breed as there is nothing worse than having an 'orphan' product. That being a product that is poorly supported, does not have a development path and limited availability of expertise. Business Objects is a commercially successful product and despite SAP's poor management of the product is likely to continue to be so.

    Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

    Private Cloud

    If public cloud, private cloud, or hybrid cloud, which cloud provider do you use?

    Other
    Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer. Senior BI consultant
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    Paul Grill - PeerSpot reviewer
    President & CEO at Infosol Inc
    Real User
    Top 5
    Using Xcelsius dashboard instead of Qlikview

    When I first started presenting Xcelsius dashboards back in 2006, I said that it should carry a warning sign stating “May Cause Xtreme Xcitement”!

    Despite all the advances in technology and tools over the last decade that statement not only remains true today, but maybe should be changed to “Will Cause Xtreme Xcitement”.

    In the last month, I have both seen and heard stories from companies singing the praises of Xcelsius and hailing it as the savior of BI user adoption in their organizations.

    A company specializing in reporting and analysis of employee business travel was looking for a client facing BI application that would help sell their solution. The client showed me their current solution running in Qlikview bemoaning how rigid, limiting and unexciting it was to use. They then showed me an example of something they found on the web that was an animated PowerPoint dashboard much closer to what they were looking for. Of course, I recognized it as an Xcelsius dashboard embedded in PowerPoint immediately. It had been developed over seven years ago, but it still sizzled. So, we mocked up a new prototype in Xcelsius for the client and to say they loved it would be an understatement. The VP of Marketing came up with the best quote of the day when he said, “It’s alive!”

    A multi-national vehicle leasing company developed a super cool Xcelsius dashboard for improving their vendor management with built-in location intelligence using the GMaps plug-in and the InfoBurst XML Data Caching for high data volume performance. They presented it at their annual sales meeting last month and it stole the show. The excitement generated was so contagious, the VP and Director responsible spent the evening at the bar designing the next dashboard together! (I can’t wait to see that one!).

    A new finance director of a global software company needed a way to provide better visibility to their financial statements and reports. She remembered using Xcelsius many years ago and said it really helped then. We put a prototype together for her in a day and everyone loved it, so they are buying it next week.

    So why is Xcelsius so amazing and still slaying the BI data visualization competition everywhere? There are dozens of reasons from its ease of use, animations, ability to embed in everything, fast prototyping to its “what if” scenarios and cool components. But it goes deeper than all these features which you can also find in other BI visualization tools. The real secret to the success of Xcelsius is that it was initially designed and developed by computer gamers. To develop a winning computer game, you need to engage your audience visually, make it cool and fun to use and have limitless possibilities. You can find all these elements in Xcelsius dashboards allowing you to create killer BI applications.

    That is why Xcelsius dashboards is still the best show in town. Xcelsius lives!

    Update Nov 2015 : Lots of activity around Xcelsius HTML5 for deployment on mobile and on desktop with dCode add-on (www.getdcode.com). Now that Xcelsius generates HTML5 output, I see it being around for many, many more years

    Update April 2016 : Xcelsius continues to thrive with many organizations using and deploying it for the first time in 2016. SAP provided updates to it with latest BI 4.2 release including full support for Excel 2013

    Update Sept. 2016 : Xcelsius HTML5 definitely seems to be the dashboard solution of choice and many new add-on HTML5  components are becoming available including D3 charts, flat components and query drag and drop discover.

    Update Sept 2018 : Adobe announced end of life for Flash for Dec 31, 2020 and SAP announced it would no longer support Xcelsius after this date since the development client uses Flash. While some Xcelsius users are looking for a viable alternative solution, others vow to continue to use the tool regardless. There are some new Xcelsius compatible solutions in development so let's see what materializes in the coming months.

    Update Feb 2019 : Xcelsius still heavily in use. Some companies looking to replace with Tableau or PowerBI but just not the same. Web Intelligence dashboards may be a viable alternative for simple dashboards .

    Update July 2019 : SAP has announced it will no longer support Xcelsius after Dec. 31, 2020 to coincide with Adobe no longer supporting Flash in the browser. However, most Xcelsius users have been generating HTML5 dashboards for a number of years now and are continuing to do so and their Xcelsius HTML5 dashboards should not be affected. SAP has no equivalent follow-on product and is recommending customers move to SAC (cloud only) and rewrite their dashboards - this will require programming skills . An alternative to Xcelsius, called Squirrel,  that requires no training for an existing Xcelsius developer and has a built-in XLF migration utility is due for beta release by InfoSol in October and will be GA in December.

    Update Dec 2019 : Squirrel has been in beta for the last few weeks with multiple organizations and is scheduled for general release on Dec 31. Initial feedback is very positive with Xcelsius users who require no re-training to use it. They have been able to both migrate or recreate existing Xcelsius dashboards. This is great news for the Xcelsius community who now have another option when Flash goes away and SAP stops supporting Xcelsius in 2021.

    Update May 2020 : Squirrel is now at version 1.3 with multiple Xcelsius customers having converted their dashboards and running with the Squirrel HTML5 versions in production. This appears to be a very viable path forward for those customers left with Xcelsius Flash dashboards that will probably no longer work starting in 2021.

    Update Nov 2020 : Squirrel 1.6 which has a cloud based version and allows you to embed dashboards in PPT was just released last week. More and more Xcelsius customers have now successfully moved to Squirrel and companies like Salesforce are using it too. Xcelsius has about a month to go before Adobe and SAP stop all support.

    Update June 2022 : Squirrel365 has now replaced hundreds of Xcelsius dashboards and has become the de facto follow-on solution for Xcelsius

    Update May 2024 : Squirrel 365 can now be embedded in BusinessObjects Web Intelligence, Tableau and PowerBI bringing "What If" scenarios and write back capability to these traditional BI solutions

    Disclaimer: My company is partners with several vendors including SAP BO.

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    I absolutely would like to hear your point of view and anything you wish to share about the app.
    I would like to know things like:

    1) Is SAP Crystal Dashboard Design, personal edition 2013 really the upgrade to Engage 2008?

    2) How is it possible that they are asking such an outrageous amount of money for it?

    3) How is it so different to the Xcelsius dashboard presentation apps they offer for under $500?. Am I missing something?

    4) What justifies the kind of money they are asking? I am interested in things like, a fully updated MAP component, brand new dashboards, the possibility of a video component to insert videos, and the like. I guess it is possible that they are including some arcane stuff I don't care about, but I am ready to be surprised by you.

    Thanks

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    Paul Grill - PeerSpot reviewer
    President & CEO at Infosol Inc
    Real User
    Top 5
    Once you are stable on a BusinessObjects release, it is worth staying there for a while

    It is true that there are often challenges when upgrading between releases of BusinessObjects but this has always been the case as it has been for all the other BI and software application vendors too.

    A few rules of thumb for BusinessObjects software are:

    1. Never upgrade to an x.0 release - always wait for at least the x.1 release and even the first or second service pack of that release

    2. Never attempt to perform a release upgrade if you have not done one before. Get training and experience first or use a reputable BO Consulting company

    3. Experiment with the new release on a sandbox environment to become familiar with the changes and find any major issues before attempting a migration to production

    Once you are stable on a BusinessObjects release, it is worth staying there for a while.

    Update April 2014 : BusinessObjects BI 4.1 has been out for 8 months now and is looking like a stable release. Expect to see a lot of activity moving to this release over the next year.

    Update September 2014 : BI 4.1 is now at Service Pack 4 (SP4) which corrected multiple issues in earlier service packs (SP2 and SP3). As more customers move to BI 4.1. more experience is gained and the platform improves. Main features attracting customers to BI 4.1 are improvements in Web Intelligence, Mobile Dashboard support and support of Desktop Intelligence.

    Update February 2015 : BI 4.1 is now at Service Pack 6 (SP6). Both SP5 and 6 have been stable. Most BI 4.0 customers are also migrating to BI 4.1 and many more XI 3.1 customers are also migrating since XI 3.1 goes into a maintenance only support mode ( no more service packs or fix packs) after Dec. 31, 2015. The next major release BI 4.2 is currently scheduled for end of the year.

    Update December 2015 : BI 4.1 SP7 has just been released. BI 4.2 is in Customer User Validation phase and will not be released until 2016. The jury is still out regarding if the quality of software updates has improved but new QA processes have been implemented by the SAP BusinessObjects development and support teams this year.

    Update May 2016 : BI 4.2 SP2 was released at the end of March. There are quite a few new features including to the Upgrade Management Tool (UMT) which is used for migrating content from previous releases. It is now possible to handle incremental updates and moving certain types of content instead of all. There is also a new mechanism that allows part of the update to be performed while the system is still running. There is also a new Recycle bin feature for public folders in case you accidently delete a report. Organizations still running BusinessObjects XI 3.1 are now looking to go straight to BI 4.2.

    Update October 2016 : BI 4.2 SP03 is now the latest version released at end of August. It has a lot of new features for a service pack including additional new functionality for Web Intelligence like cascading prompts for input controls, references and further enhancements to the new discussions. The Administrators cockpit has also been further enhanced to provide more options. So far, stability looks good.

    Update April 2017 : SP03 has proven to be a relatively stable service pack that many BO customers have updated to. The next service pack, SP04 is now in beta and scheduled to be released in May. Again, it promises to have a bunch of new functionality for Web Intelligence including full parity between the Java and dhtml clients, an optional new UI and many new graphics

    Update September 2017 : SP04 has now been available since May and there were additional quite a few code changes . The first release release had multiple issues. Some were addressed in the two subsequent Fix Packs that have been released. The general feeling was that it was not as stable as SP03. However SP04 was the first version that included SQL Server 2016 support so many customers wanted to install it.

    Update February 2018 : SP05 was released in December and there were further enhancements particularly to the new optional HTML5 Fiori portal that can now be used for consuming BO reports. This first version has some issues around installation/upgrade but too early to judge its overall stability yet.

    Update July 2018 : Like all the previous BI 4.2 Service Packs, SP05 had multiple issues when first released and really did not completely stabilize until Fix Pack 200 (after Fix Pack 100). It is now at Fix Pack 400 and SP06 is in beta testing and should be released soon.

    Update December 2018 : SP06 is now the current BI 4.2 Service Pack update released late July. Like all the other service packs there were some initial issues and after a couple of fix pack updates, it now is quite stable. Like its predecessors it has a lot of additional functionality especially with the new Fiori HTML5 UI and Web Intelligence (more new charts like funnels, pyramids, intra-document links and more). Nice enhancements to BO Administrators Cockpit for usage/performance monitoring. Now BI 4.3 has been announced for release at end of 2019, the next service packs may be more maintenance fixes than new functionality.

    Update June 2019 : SP07 was released a couple of months ago. Unlike previous BI 4.2 Service Packs this had a very small amount of new functionality and was mainly a maintenance update. Again the first version had a few issues but a fix pack has been released and customers are upgrading to it. The remaining 4.2 service packs are also supposed to be primarily maintenance updates and fixes as new functionality will be focused in the eagerly awaited BI 4.3 release now likely to be released in early 2020.

    Update December 2019 : BI 4.2 SP07 remains the current release. There have been issues with some of the Fix Packs and it is best to go with the most current. The BI 4.3 open beta is due to start this month but GA is not expected until mid 2020 now. There should also be an SP08 update to BI 4.2 coming in early 2020.

    Update April 2020 : BI 4.2 SP08 was released a few weeks back and despite it being primarily a maintenance release, SAP has included some interesting new features like a direct connector to Snowflake for Webi. Some early bugs in SP08 have been reported and the first fix patch 100 has just been released. There is still much anticipation for BI 4.3, the next major release due out this Summer.

    Update September 2020 : BI 4.3 SP0 was released in June and has  a radically different HTML6 UI that will take some getting use to. There are a lot of other new features including Webi as a data source allowing you to use universes on top of a Webi report. a few brave souls may try out an SP0 release but most will wait till at least SP2 due out mid 2021. BI 4.2 will continue as the dominant release for at least the next couple of years with SP9 coming out later this year.

    Update September 2022 : BI 4.3 SP02 is now the current release with SP03 due for release in December. BusinessObjects BI 4.2 will go into Priority 1 support mode for 2 years starting Jan 1, 2023. In addition, SAP has announced the next major release after BI 4.3 which has been code-named BI 2024 and is die for release at end of 2024/beginning of 2025. This release like all previous BI 4 releases will run both on-premise and in the cloud. This effectively means the BusinessObjects roadmap is solid for at least the next 10 years which is a testimony to both the popularity and success of the product. 

    Update March 2024 : BI 4.3 SP04 is now the current release but since it has only been out a couple of months, not too many people are moving it to it yet. SP03 is now at patch level 900 and there have been some issues over the last year. Again, a lot of new functionality (and therefore new code) was delivered with both SP03 and SP04. The most significant was the new Data Tab mode in Web Intelligence which allows merging and transformation of data sources. You can join sources toigether with Left Join, Inner Join, Outer Join and Append. You can also profile your data and see disticts and nulls and apply simple transforms using a Replace option.

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    The Free hand SQL is a none issue ,there are even better dynamic solutions for implementing free hand SQL with edit abilities even in Web intelligence 3.1

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