it_user6792 - PeerSpot reviewer
Project Manager at a manufacturing company with 501-1,000 employees
Vendor
We extensively use the publication features of Crystal Reports and scheduling features of Web Intelligence. But we had some challenges with upgrades.

What is most valuable?

Business Object is truly a scalable and complete business intelligence solution for larger organizations. We have made use of the following components: Live Office, Xcelsius, Crystal Reports, Web Intelligence. We extensively use the publication features of Crystal Reports and scheduling features of Web Intelligence. For an organization that uses Excel extensively, the Live Office direct connect is fast, accurate and user friendly. Be sure to have some super users in the business who can develop Crystal Reports and well as Web Intelligence ad hoc queries. This will make the life of the IT developers and administrative employees much easier. Overall, with past experiences, I would have to rate our opinion of BOBJ very highly.

What needs improvement?

On the downside, we have had some challenges with upgrades. Be sure to fully test every aspect in your development environment before applying any patches or service packs to Business Objects production servers. SAP was quick to respond to issues, but this still caused problems for users. The bugs we found were deep into software features (displaying column headings, formula logic, etc) and weren’t something we found in our extensive testing. I do admit we pushed the limits and had a lot of custom coding, but we expected these features to work and not break in future releases.
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it_user9972 - PeerSpot reviewer
it_user9972CEO at a tech services company with 51-200 employees
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Hi Tina,
Please use Internet Explorer as the default browser for Business Objects, other browsers doesnt support all features

Yes, BO Explorer leverages the complete underlying BO deployment and it has extensive and comprehensive data exploration capabilities

Services not starting due to missing jar files, in this case redeploy the war files and check. Detailed description of error would help to provide more info

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Global Product Manager at a tech services company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
Good for reporting and translating data into business language, but difficult to set up
Pros and Cons
    • "The user interface should be easier to use and navigate."

    What is our primary use case?

    We primarily use the product for reporting and dashboards. We only have those two use cases, although there are other ways to use them.

    What is most valuable?

    I have a 24-hour company, and the business layer on top of the database can translate database data into business language so that people can easily understand what's happening. It allows us to quickly create reports without IT or programming skills.

    The stability is quite good.

    What needs improvement?

    According to our experience, SAP BO is too heavy and very difficult for customers with medium, or smaller-sized businesses to install and maintain. It is such a heavy reporting tool.

    Even though they provide the business layer, it's difficult for the programmer to create their own business layer. It's too complex for them. They need to simplify this.

    The user interface should be easier to use and navigate.

    The initial setup is difficult. 

    Technical support could be more responsive. 

    For how long have I used the solution?

    I've been using the solution for five years already. I've used it for quite a while. 

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    The stability is pretty good. There are no bugs or glitches. It doesn't crash or freeze. It's reliable and the performance is good. 

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    We only have three or four people who are using the solution at our company at this time. They are the admins and the ones who generate the reports for us. 

    We haven't really looked into scaling as the data volume is very limited. I can't speak to how easy it is to expand or how well it handles extremely large data sets.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    Technical support could be better. We tried to get them to help us with the implementation, and they were not quick to respond.

    Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

    We currently also work with Crystal Reports, which is dated, and Jasper, which is also not that great of a product.

    When we began to switch to SAP, we really wanted customization capabilities and we wanted the business layer. We needed something to provide a middle layer or translation layer so that people can generate reports much quicker, and, at the time, SAP was a good option.

    How was the initial setup?

    The initial setup is not easy. We need a very experienced developer and they need to get enough training from SAP in order to be able to do anything effectively. It's not like other reporting tools that are really easy to use or easy to install and maintain. This one is complex and takes work and inside knowledge. 

    There isn't too much maintenance required. You just need to update it every once in a while. 

    What about the implementation team?

    We needed some help implementing the solution, however, in the end, we weren't completely satisfied as the level of response time was slow. 

    What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

    I cannot speak to the exact cost of the product, as it's not an aspect of the solution I handle. 

    Which other solutions did I evaluate?

    We're currently looking at Power BI and Splunk among other options.

    What other advice do I have?

    We are SAP partners. 

    I use the latest version of the solution. I cannot speak to the exact version number.

    I wouldn't necessarily recommend the product to others. Even now, for ourselves, we are looking into an alternative option. 

    I would rate the solution at a six out of ten.

    Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

    On-premises
    Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: Partner
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    It has improved our work but is difficult to use
    Pros and Cons
    • "I have seen improvement in our work after using the solution."
    • "It is not simple to use."

    What is our primary use case?

    We use the solution to manage our databases.

    What needs improvement?

    The solution is more difficult to use than other products. 

    For how long have I used the solution?

    We have been using the solution for five years.

    What other advice do I have?

    I have seen improvement in our work after using the solution. I rate the solution as a seven out of ten.

    Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: partner
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    Software Engineer at KIS Ltd
    Real User
    Good reporting and promotes a common view of information across the organisation
    Pros and Cons
    • "The common metadata environment means that the entire organisation has the same definition of core measures rather than these being derived in spreadsheets or specific reports."
    • "This solution is complex to configure and administer."

    What is our primary use case?

    I have several use cases, generally in more complex environments. These are typically corporate, requiring functionality such as strong data security, bursting, metadata-based support, scalability, fault tolerance, load balancing, support for high volume, breadth of functionality in one set of products, etc. 

    It has been used in Retail, Construction, Banks, and Insurance organisations.

    It works well for organisations where a structured, common, and more disciplined view of larger, more complex information is required. This is generally with more complex and multiple source systems with larger volumes of information.

    How has it helped my organization?

    This solution provides much greater and faster access to information for a wide mixture of users. It supports and promotes a common view of information across the organisation. It also removes dependence on spreadsheets and technical resource for report generation.

    It supports a wide range of types of users. It is particularly effective for information consumers. Ad Hoc information access and simpler self-service are well supported. Once we had the foundation in place, we also found we could provide most reports in under an hour for smaller company environments. Because of change control, the latter rarely happens in corporate environments but the effort involved was reduced.

    What is most valuable?

    The common metadata environment means that the entire organisation has the same definition of core measures rather than these being derived in spreadsheets or specific reports. It also provides a structured data security model whereby a single report provides dedicated results to a given usage, such as a branch or department-based. For instance, the same report will provide a branch-specific result depending on the user's branch and can be common to multiple branches.

    Similarly, bursting enables provision of tailored static reporting to specific users or user groups that also includes data security.

    What needs improvement?

    This solution is complex to configure and administer. It is even more so, I believe, than it should be, even with such a complex product. As an example it has many server processes (typically 15+). In Windows these are not services rather they are individual processes managed via a single service called the SIA. Each server process can be separately configured and performs a specific set of functions

    It uses Java constructions for specific customisations such as default reporting formats and using SSL for burst email reports. This requires a broad set of skills to set-up.

    It is rather cryptic in its error handling when there are issues that require trawling through a number of voluminous log files that are accessed from the server.

    For how long have I used the solution?

    I have been using this solution for more than ten years.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    Reliability dropped in 2017-2018 with a major release but indications are that this has been addressed.

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    Very scalable across thousands (if not 10,000+) users and large data volumes.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    Average. Technical support from SAP is mediocre. The local support is decent.

    Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

    I've used many different BI solutions. The choice was the customer's. 

    How was the initial setup?

    See earlier comments but a vanilla install is not too complex.  The moment it is not vanilla it becomes quite complex. The SAP website for software management, downloads, licenses etc makes the Da Vinci Code look simple.

    What about the implementation team?

    Mix of contractors and vendor. The vendor is skillful though overworked resources.

    What was our ROI?

    No Idea

    What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

    Cost to setup and run is high as it is complex but then again one also gets a highly functional product. SAP do have a small business pricing so, at least, the licensing is not too expensive.

    Which other solutions did I evaluate?

    The most comparable product is MicroStrategy, which is frankly a better technical product but has not been as commercially successful outside of large sites.

    What other advice do I have?

    I am a great believe in choosing a commercially successful product rather than technical best of breed as there is nothing worse than having an 'orphan' product. That being a product that is poorly supported, does not have a development path and limited availability of expertise. Business Objects is a commercially successful product and despite SAP's poor management of the product is likely to continue to be so.

    Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

    Private Cloud

    If public cloud, private cloud, or hybrid cloud, which cloud provider do you use?

    Other
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    Sr Business Intelligence Analyst at a tech services company with 5,001-10,000 employees
    Consultant
    Web Intelligence has allowed our company to move to a self-service delivery model. The BW safety belt severely limits the performance of data through the DSL Bridge.

    Valuable Features:

    The dynamic scheduling and the user interactive features (input controls, drill down and drill up features) as well as the ability to export the reports to Excel or PDF are some of the best features.

    Improvements to My Organization:

    Web Intelligence has allowed our company to move to a self-service delivery model by allowing our internal clients to access, run and schedule reports dynamically without intervention of the BI team.

    Room for Improvement:

    The dynamic scheduling capabilities, the performance and ability to handle large data sets when connected via BICS to a BW warehouse needs a lot of work. The BW safety belt severely limits the performance of data through the DSL Bridge which makes Web Intelligence appear slow and unable to handle large data sets.

    Use of Solution:

    I have used SAP Business Objects for 4 years. I have used both the BICS direct connection to a SAP BW warehouse, as well as connecting to a Universe.

    Deployment Issues:

    No issues with deployment that I, as a functional user, was aware of.

    Stability Issues:

    Stability seems to be an ongoing issue with the tool and as much as that could be attributed to the tool, it can also be attributed to the configuration including the BICS connection, the DSL Bridge, and the tomcat server that it is installed on.

    Initial Setup:

    I joined after it was implemented.

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    it_user5802 - PeerSpot reviewer
    BI Expert at a healthcare company with 1,001-5,000 employees
    Vendor
    Comparison of Business Objects & Cognos

    Most of my experience is with Business Objects. I have done a little with Cognos Elite also. Comparatively I find Business Objects much easier to work with when it comes to customizing the presentation of the data. Neither of the two products does a drill-down as well as you can in Crystal Reports, but they both allow you to create multiple views of the data on one page. Business Object WEBI reports allow you to use multiple universes and multiple report pages in one WEBI document.

    Both system will force you to use another layer between the presentation and data layers. In Cognos it is called Framework Manager. In WEBI it is called Universes. Both Universes and Framework Manager define the structure and connections the are usable to the presentation layer. Both middle layers can connect to any kind of database or even spreadsheets on an accessible drive.

    Both products will force you to use their WEB portals as an interface into the presentation layer. Both allow you to schedule and deliver reports in multiple formats and in a variety of means. Links to reports, send the reports via e-mail, only send reports with data the user can see, and send alerts when reports fail are just a few of the common things that can be done.

    When it comes to ease of use, Business Objects is a lot more intuitive and straight forward. Cognos seems to make you take a lot more steps to get the same results. Some of those steps are tough to figure out. The term "clunky" comes to mind when I think of working in Cognos.

    Both products offer very similar concepts and tools to summarize and chart the data in a report.

    Licensing costs and how you want to architect your server infrastructure are going to be the key driver to which product fits your organization better. Business Objects offers the advantage of another more static reporting tool with Crystal Reports.

    Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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    it_user415908 - PeerSpot reviewer
    BI & Data Lead, Reporting & Analytics Center of Excellence at a consumer goods company with 1,001-5,000 employees
    Vendor
    Most of its tools are also data source agnostic which makes them versatile across all environments.

    What is most valuable?

    Ability for the user to easily schedule the reports and managing them is a big plus. Most of BOBJ tools are also data source agnostic which makes them versatile across all environments.

    WebIntelligence, Analysis for Office, and SAP Lumira were designed for businesses. So the adoption rate by the is very high. Quick intuitive analysis of data, and in just a few clicks WebI and Lumira can Merge Dimensions from different sources.

    How has it helped my organization?

    • Lot of Automation of routine reports. Analysts can now focus on analysis rather than pulling in reports from multiple places.
    • Scheduling of the reports makes sure we are not duplicating work across all regions for the same report.
    • Brings in standardization.
    • Self-Service BI or DIY-BI
    • Reports are easily available on Mobile devices

    What needs improvement?

    • Reusability of the reports and tables from between the different tools
    • Improvements needed in charting
    • Direct and easy integrations to easily bring in data from other applications across all the tools like Salesforce, reading RSS streams etc. and not just other databases
    • Big data source support across all tools.
    • Bringing Predictive Analysis to the main stream

    For how long have I used the solution?

    I've been using it for 12+ years, and all the other products since their inception.

    What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

    We had no major issues.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    We had no major issues.

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    There have been no issues with the scalability.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    First level support is generally is good for basic issues. Second level support is informative when it comes to bigger issues.

    Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

    The BOBJ solution was so ingrained within the organization, and powerful that there was no necessity to change.

    How was the initial setup?

    It was smooth.

    What about the implementation team?

    Did both cases. Even if you have an external vendor, make sure you who have an experienced lead in-house who knows how the organization works to guide the implementation team.

    What was our ROI?

    ROI is absolute.

    What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

    SAP has flexible licensing when negotiated correctly.

    What other advice do I have?

    When deploying SAP BW and BOBJ together, get an experienced practitioner who can educate and implement keeping the business users in mind, not just the deadline and processes of IT.

    There are a lot of limitation in SAP BW especially for scheduling, which can limit the full utilization of BOBJ, but there is a solution for it all if you think out of the box.

    Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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    it_user26124 - PeerSpot reviewer
    Business Objects Admin/Developer at a healthcare company with 1,001-5,000 employees
    Vendor
    Web intelligence is valuable but SAP patch methodology is horrific

    What is most valuable?

    • Universe Designer
    • Web Intelligence
    • InfoView

    How has it helped my organization?

    Able to quickly create and publish reports using WebI. Eliminated most printed reports, they are now emailed or consumed online via InfoView. Has given users the ability to run reports on their own and get the information they need without having to ask IS.

    What needs improvement?

    Compatibility of Crystal Reports within BOE, especially when using universes and prompts – the prompts are turned into static values, not generated on-the-fly.

    Scheduling functions. We have to maintain separate lists and custom apps of report schedules so that we know what’s scheduled when, and who is getting what reports. If a person leaves and is on distribution lists, we have to manually go through and remove/replace them. There is also no easy way to bulk re-schedule reports.

    Report documentation must be manually maintained. Can’t EASILY find all reports using field X.

    WebI needs a report template function so that basic re-used elements and formatting don’t have to be re-created with every report. Also need to be able to do more with custom SQL and merged dimensions.

    SAP patch methodology is horrific, it was much better pre-SAP. As it is now, if you are on 6.1 and report a bug and it gets fixed in 6.2 you update and confirm it’s fixed. Then, a new release comes out and you update but because its cut-off date was prior to the date 6.2 fix, the fix isn’t included! Imagine trying to manage a system if you are waiting for multiple fixes. You can (we did!) end up with a system where major issues were finally fixed but other major problems not fixed and when the outstanding issues were finally resolved, the other previously addressed problems weren’t included in the newer update! It’s a maintenance and tracking headache.

    For how long have I used the solution?

    Approximately nine years -

    BusinessObjects Enterprise 3.1 SP6 (CMC, LCM, WebI, CR, Universe Designer, Business View Manager, InfoView)

    (previously used XI R2)

    What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

    Original XI R2 install was done by consultants, the install was a disaster and non-functional and we had to completely start over. Tech support walked us through doing it ourselves and we’ve managed it since. Biggest issue of the upgrade to 3.1 was functionality change in WebI merged dimensions, all reports using them broke and had to be re-written. Looked at upgrading to 4.0 over a year ago and installed in a sandbox, but the product did not function out of the box. It required massive reconfiguration of the default settings to run bare bones and there was no upgrade path to multi-source universes. As a result, we haven’t upgraded yet.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    Rarely and was always due to bugs in new SP or FP. Current patch level is very stable.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    Customer Service:

    In a word, bad. Account reps constantly change and it’s impossible to find out who your current rep is. Phone calls and emails are not returned. At one point we were interested in buying additional licenses, but no one could/would help us. The licensing renewal process is severely lacking. They sent renewal emails to the wrong people, these are non-IS line staff not even on our account, and we have no idea how they even got their contact information. They refused to accept the PO that our accounting system generated, wanting one specially designed for them. Our purchasing agent, literally took a black sharpie and wrote all over the PO to meet their requirements. Who is the customer? Do they really want to make that sale? It doesn’t seem like it. Maybe we are too small for them to bother with?

    Technical Support:

    First level support is horrible. I avoid opening cases because of the bad experiences. I would typically find myself explaining very basic product functionality to the support personnel and in the end the response is always that they will consult their resources and get back to you. After going around in circles for days or weeks, the stock response is “it’s working as designed,” yet they can’t explain why. If you are lucky enough to get to higher level support (which is rare), they are very knowledgeable and able to quickly help get to the bottom of issues and find real solutions.

    Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

    No previous solution was used.

    What about the implementation team?

    Initially a vendor, recommended by BO. They had the product installed multiple times on the server, it was a mess and had to be completely blown away and reinstalled. Since then, we’ve done it in-house.

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