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it_user1362003 - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Network Engineer at a computer software company with 5,001-10,000 employees
Reseller
Aug 19, 2020
Stable and easy to use with good support from the vendor and the community
Pros and Cons
  • "This product is very easy to use."
  • "Cisco has a lot of problems with the graphical interfaces used for management."

What is our primary use case?

We primarily use these routers for establishing connections between different sites. These connections allow our users at different locations to access the network.

What is most valuable?

The feature that I like most is the routing.

This product is very easy to use.

What needs improvement?

Cisco has a lot of problems with the graphical interfaces used for management. 

For how long have I used the solution?

We have been working with Cisco Enterprise Routers for almost 10 years.

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What do I think about the stability of the solution?

These routers are very stable.

How are customer service and support?

The technical support is very good.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

Cisco routers are very pricey. This is the biggest complaint from customers for which we provide support.

What other advice do I have?

My advice for anybody who is considering this product is that it is very easy to use, and there is a large community to support you. I recommend checking the licensing because sometimes when you buy the product, you may forget to check the licensing and warranty information.

We have seen that most clients work with third-parties when it comes to a monitoring solution for Cisco routers.

In summary, this is a good product and one that I recommend.

I would rate this solution a ten out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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Engineering Manager at a tech services company with 51-200 employees
Real User
Jul 15, 2020
Great CLI and OS with fantastic stability
Pros and Cons
  • "The solution is easily scalable."
  • "Due to the sanctions on our country, we can't get outside help directly from Cisco. We need to handle the implementation ourselves."

What is our primary use case?

I'm a Cisco specialist, and I implement Cisco devices, not always just for myself. We consult, implement, and design Cisco devices for our customers according to their needs and requirements. Just for the record, I am the CEO of my company: Atin Secure Systems ltd.

What is most valuable?

I feel free with Cisco's operation system (IOS), and specifically, it's CLI. The power of Cisco is it's software and OS, not just their hardware. Their end product is very stable, straightforward, and scalable. However, it takes time and energy for a beginner to be able to administer the CLI.

What needs improvement?

Cisco could update or release a new GUI. It needs a more extensive and comprehensive GUI, specifically for people who don't like using CLIs. I don't mind CLI but, I know based on my experience that not everyone prefers it. Unfortunately, Cisco promotes only to use CLI.

I am teaching Cisco up to CCNP level to my students, but up until today, I haven't been able to take the Cisco exams because we are banned from doing so in our country due to sanctions. We cannot even take the Cisco exams out of the country. I wanted to travel to Turkey to try, however, I was told I wouldn't be recognized even if I pass the exam.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been implementing, designing, troubleshooting, and teaching Cisco for ten years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

Cisco has the best stability I have ever seen. There aren't bugs or glitches, freeze, or crashes. It's very reliable.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The solution is very scalable. It's another feature that's great. You can add as many Cisco devices as you want to your project or your scenario if your initial design is correct. This can be done without any side effects and without any big changes.

How are customer service and technical support?

We're based in Iran. We suffer from a lot of sanctions, so we don't have access to Cisco specialists or Cisco support. It's not allowed.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

Cisco is somehow expensive in comparison to other vendors. Hence, we have switched to other brands only to satisfy the financial needs of our customers. Our only suggestion to customers is Cisco.

How was the initial setup?

In my opinion, the initial set up is useless for a person (a specialist or a technician) who wants to run a full scenario. If I were Cisco, I would eliminate that initial setup.

What about the implementation team?

Due to the sanctions on our country, we can't get outside help directly from Cisco. We need to handle the implementation ourselves.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The initial costs of using a full Cisco scenario like purchasing gears and licenses may be a little bit high. However, with accurate design and implementation, you should make sure you are good to go for years.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

Cisco is the definition of computer networks in the industry. I have experience and knowledge in other brands like Mikrotik. However, Cisco is the best on the market.

What other advice do I have?

You can't compare Cisco to any other gadget or any other solution. They're the best in the market, hands down. I have no choice other than giving them full marks of ten out of ten. I'd recommend Cisco to everyone.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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Cloud Support Engineer at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
Oct 30, 2019
Easy to setup, very durable, and relatively stable
Pros and Cons
  • "They offer a variety of very good features."
  • "The pricing of the solution needs improvement."

What is our primary use case?

Our client primarily uses the solution for a Computer Base Test Center.

What is most valuable?

The durability of the solution is excellent.

They offer a variety of very good features.

What needs improvement?

The pricing of the solution needs improvement.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've been using the solution for three years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The solution is usually stable. It could be based on design, but on a particular router that I received, I noticed it started overheating at one point, so it kept shutting down. This may be because of where I purchased the router, however.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup of the solution is quite easy if you are a technical person. If you are not a technical person it can take a while. A technical person should be able to deploy it in 25-45 minutes.

What other advice do I have?

We use the enterprise version of the solution. I deploy it for our clients.

I'd rate the solution nine out of ten.

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it_user1185396 - PeerSpot reviewer
IT Manager at a tech services company with 501-1,000 employees
Real User
Oct 28, 2019
An expensive solution that does not live up to expectations for performance
Pros and Cons
  • "The product can help teach valuable life lessons about what not to do when building a network."
  • "Many things about this solution are problematic including setup, configuration, performance, upgrades and support."

What is our primary use case?

Our primary use for this solution is for Internet access and firewall.

How has it helped my organization?

The commitment to Cisco products based on their advice and knowing our model and what we wanted to accomplish did not put us in an optimal situation. I do not think this solution has improved our organization.

What is most valuable?

I don't particularly like the product. The decision to go with Cisco was made by the company. Now they made an expensive investment so they feel we have to keep this equipment.

What needs improvement?

The capacity of the equipment should be improved. Cisco sells expensive equipment, but it does not really have greater performance compared to the price paid for it. So, we're paying very high prices for medium — or low to medium — capacity equipment.

One thing that I would like to see is a more user-friendly dashboard. Really it generally needs easier capabilities to do basic management of the product and the system for users who are not Cisco employees or representatives.

Though it is not directly the product, their technical support services can be improved. We have not had many problems with the product, but we pay for support and they have not really solved the issues we submitted to our satisfaction. It is the same with Cisco iOS. We know that when we install the next version, we have come to expect that something will break. Testing upgrades should be improved as well.

For how long have I used the solution?

We have been using the solution for close to seven years.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

Around 70 people are currently using the products. There are two administrative or technical employees dedicated to maintenance. The scalability seems limited by performance.

How are customer service and technical support?

We have opened cases with the Cisco customer support. Early on we didn't really have many issues. For what we pay for the platinum support, I don't think that they are doing a great effort in working with us. In one instance where it seemed to me that Cisco didn't really understand the problem, they tried to push us to get the newest equipment. The same equipment was working fine for the same thing about two months before that. So, it doesn't make sense to have to upgrade the equipment when something has broken that was working. I think that something was wrong either with the licensed upgrade on the iOS that did it. I don't know. But I do know that Cisco was not able to pinpoint exactly what the problem was and the solution they offered did not make sense. If it was hardware that we have a warranty for or an upgrade that they introduced, they should be able to locate the problem for clients paying a premium for their services. 

Reflecting on that incident, they seemed more interested in selling more equipment than to really dig deep and discover what the problem was.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

Actually, it is the Cisco products we use now that we will be replaced with another solution. We did not move from something else to Cisco. We have plans to get rid of the equipment. We want to switch to another vendor which has more robust products for a lower cost. We pay too much for what we get in performance. The problem is not really in terms of capabilities but in terms of the capacity of the equipment. It makes no sense for us to have such expensive equipment where we can have router equipment with less complexity and then have proper firewalls behind it.

The features Cisco intends to include in their product are very limited due to the way the features affect the capacity of the equipment. For example, imagine that the equipment is capable of handling a hundred megabits of internet access without any additional features configured. After the additional features are enabled and configured to perform the job as advertised, the bandwidth and performance are reduced drastically. It makes no sense to have such expensive equipment if it does not do what is intended or if it does not do it as well as another configuration would using dedicated products. Cisco advertises all the things you can do, but then you get the overall capacity squeezed and it is not as great as advertised.

It is not exactly that the product does not do what it is advertised to do, but you lose the performance that you expected when going with this model. If we knew about this performance drawback before, then we would not have bought this expensive line of the product. We would have gone with something cheaper. It could even have been a different Cisco product, but we would configure the network in a different way. We would not do the firewall in JCL (Job Control Language) that's on the routers, but we would do it on a proper firewall. If we did not spend that much money on the gateway equipment, then we could get different equipment with a proper firewall using what we saved. 

How was the initial setup?

I thought that the initial setup was very complex. Cisco does not have a straightforward logic for the configuration of the equipment. You need to do a lot of extra things. For example, you have to open a specific port to the outside to allow traffic, you have to review the ACL (Access Control List), and you need to review firewall provisions. It's a bit complicated to manage compared to other equipment and in other firewalls where it is a much simpler process. I find it complex to manage this Cisco solution and I am sure it can be simplified.

Our deployment took about two to three months, at best, to tune it up to make all work properly. It was not done alone by me, but it was all done in house. I have a good team of people, but it took too long to get everything dialed in. Even after that time, we had only met most of the requirements that were outlined. There was still more to do.

What about the implementation team?

We have a team and did our own implementation.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

We don't have any licenses at this time. There were some compensating licenses that needed to be renewed every year, but then Cisco ended that practice. It was also sort of the local price break for the solution. Currently, we just pay for the hardware once and extra for the warranty extension. Besides those costs, there were no additional expenses. We did pay additional for a specific module. It was from another company embedded inside the Cisco product and we had to renew every year on that license. But then Cisco stopped promoting the use of that feature. When they did the product performed better because the module was taking up too much of the CPU usage.

On a scale from one to ten where one is the worst and ten is the best, I would rate Cisco Enterprise Routers poorly from the experience that I have had. I would say a three or possibly four. I wish we had gotten the correct information from Cisco when we talked to them back when we were considering the solution. We told them what we wanted them to do and they recommended this solution. I think there may have been a miscalculation of the sizing of the equipment. So, I give it three out of ten because I could do the same or have the same or better result with a different solution that was not as expensive as this equipment.

The company and products are good overall, but they still overprice the equipment compared to the competition.

What other advice do I have?

My advice to others considering this solution would be not to do what we did. Don't go with the all-in-one solution. Buy a basic product that Cisco certifies is more than capable of routing the traffic that you expect on the network, then get a decent firewall behind the router to really take care of security, content filtering, ACL and all the rest that a firewall does. It could be a bit expensive, of course, because you're buying two products instead of one. But what you can get out of it is much more than we get now from this Cisco solution.

It's not by any chance that when ISPs all over the world deliver an internet access line, they don't give you the top of the line support equipment. They don't push you to buy Cisco because it is the best. They give you something really basic because it's not supposed to do anything else than routing traffic from and to the internet. They expect you to have a firewall behind that router to manage all the rest of what a firewall is supposed to handle. Those providers know exactly what they're doing.

What I have learned from my experience with this product is to do more to check for something else as alternatives and compare products without just accepting a reputation and advice from the vending company's experts. You might not need to buy something expensive to really accomplish what you need to do. 

Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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IT Manager at a hospitality company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
Top 5
Oct 28, 2019
Excellent stability and reliability with an easy initial setup
Pros and Cons
  • "The stability of the solution's router is its most valuable feature."
  • "The configuration needs improvement. Most routers, like HP or Aruba, use a UI interface. Those solutions are similar and uniform. It's easier for us compared to Cisco because with Cisco you are not using normal commands. They need to enhance the UI to make it more usable."

What is our primary use case?

I use the router to connect to the internet.

What is most valuable?

The stability of the solution's router is its most valuable feature.

What needs improvement?

The configuration needs improvement. Most routers, like HP or Aruba, use a UI interface. Those solutions are similar and uniform. It's easier for us compared to Cisco because with Cisco you are not using normal commands. They need to enhance the UI to make it more usable.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've been using the solution for ten years or so.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The stability of the solution is fantastic. We haven't touched it for five years now. You just set it and forget it.

How are customer service and technical support?

We don't contact Cisco technical support directly. If we have a problem, we can contact any one of the Cisco suppliers and they are able to give good support.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

I didn't previously use a different solution.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup was easy. Deployment only took one day.

What other advice do I have?

I'd recommend the solution. Once you plug it in, you can basically forget about it because there are never any issues. It just works, and that's great. I'd rate it ten out of ten.

Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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Head of Cisco Department at a tech services company with 501-1,000 employees
Reseller
Top 20
Oct 27, 2019
Good security, throughput, stability, and technical support
Pros and Cons
  • "The most valuable features are security and throughput."
  • "This solution is scalable but it does need some improvements."

What is our primary use case?

The primary use case for some of our customers is to build their network. Others want to upgrade their networks because they have expanded their office or have new offices or new buildings.

What is most valuable?

The most valuable features are security and throughput. Security is very important and the throughput is valuable because the data amounts get bigger each time.

What needs improvement?

The scalability of this solution needs to be improved because the amount of data gets larger and larger as does the network. This should be a part of the site share equipment.

In the next release, I would like to see cloud management and cloud security.

Also, for our customers, if they could have all of their tools in one place for monitoring and configuring their equipment, and it should be very secure.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using this solution for three years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

This solution is very good and stable.

When you sell millions of routers and features, you will always have some type of issue. With any solution you have different situations with installation or with configuration. In general, it's a very low percentage of issues.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

This solution is scalable but it does need some improvements.

There are no limitations to the number of users it can have, but it depends on the equipment and the network size. One local router could serve maybe five hundred to one thousand customers, whereas a larger network can accommodate more, so the number of users depends on the equipment and the technical parameters.

How are customer service and technical support?

In the case of issues, you can contact customer support and it will be resolved in a very short time.

The technical support is very good.

I used to be an integrator and when I had some cases or tasks we had very quick and qualified support with Cisco.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is easy and straightforward. This solution has a web-based interface which makes it easy for installation.

The deployment can take one or two days. If it's a new implementation and it just needs to install one router in a network, it can take less than a day. But, if it's in Europe and it has a complicated network because they are large, it will take time to make new routes or policies. This can span one or two days.

What about the implementation team?

Some of our customers have their engineers who can implement this solution, so they don't use a reseller or integrator. However, in most situations, resellers and integrators are hired to implement this solution.

What other advice do I have?

Buy official equipment and services from Cisco and you will have fully qualified technical support.

There are no limitations, you should go forward with the solution. There is always something new being developed and it is always growing.

This is a company that is very innovative.

I would rate this solution a ten out of ten.

Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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Head of IT Department at a hospitality company with 11-50 employees
Real User
Oct 24, 2019
An extremely stable and reliable device that performs well
Pros and Cons
  • "The solution is very stable. I have not seen any downtime due to the product freezing or anything like that. It performs well and hasn't required reboots unless it's to troubleshoot with a support service provider needing configuration. It doesn't overheat and it's on 24/7."
  • "If I only have one LAN port in which I want to connect more than one device, I have to buy an add-on card so that I can have two LAN ports. The smaller devices and low-end routers have about four LAN ports. This solution is a high-end device but has only one. It would be preferable if they offered more LAN ports."

What is most valuable?

The solution is very stable. I have not seen any downtime due to the product freezing or anything like that. It performs well and hasn't required reboots unless it's to troubleshoot with a support service provider needing configuration. It doesn't overheat and it's on 24/7. 

What needs improvement?

It would be great if there was a graphical user interface or something to interface with the router.

If I only have one LAN port in which I want to connect more than one device, I have to buy an add-on card so that I can have two LAN ports. The smaller devices and low-end routers have about four LAN ports. This solution is a high-end device but has only one. It would be preferable if they offered more LAN ports.

I don't know whether the solution can be cloud-managed. When I am away from work, it would be great if I could still have access and manage things, check the configuration, etc. Right now, I don't have a way of monitoring things if I am not at my desk.

I need a feature introduced where I can be able to tell if my provider is giving me constant capacity. The solution should be able to alert me to when the capacity fluctuates so I can go back to my provider and tell ask them why they are giving me less capacity than I am paying for.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've been using the solution for more than ten years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The stability of the solution is very, very good. 

There was a time I was experiencing some issues with the low-end Cisco router, the 800 series, but I upgraded to the enterprise option and its performance has been remarkable, I have no complaints whatsoever.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We haven't attempted to scale the solution, so I can't really speak to if it's easy or difficult.

How are customer service and technical support?

I've not engaged with Cisco technical support directly, but the resellers supporting us have been excellent. I prefer to work with the internet service providers because they are the ones who sold the Cisco router to me and they've been supporting me very well and I am happy with their assistance.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We didn't really use another solution, at least not on a large scale. We did use some small routers like Linksys for a handful of people. For the purpose of our internet connectivity from the service provider to my company, I wanted to use Cisco.

How was the initial setup?

Deployment took some time. One person came in to terminate cable. Then, the next day, they sent someone to configure the router which took three hours. Some of the settings weren't quite working right, which is why it took that long. 

What about the implementation team?

The initial setup was done by my internet service provider because they did not want anyone to tamper with their configuration. 

What other advice do I have?

We operate a hotel and we have clients who are logging into the WiFi all the time. We need to give them good connectivity. Sometimes we get as many as 500 connections and we know that with Cisco unless the service provider lets us down, the device won't fail. It's a very good product.

I'd recommend the solution. I'd rate it ten out of ten.

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reviewer1050828 - PeerSpot reviewer
Lead Network Architect at a tech services company with 5,001-10,000 employees
Real User
Oct 24, 2019
Satisfies our company's MPLS network requirements
Pros and Cons
  • "The most valuable features of this solution are MPLS, BGP, and VRF."
  • "I would like to see the setup time reduced."

What is our primary use case?

Our primary use for this solution is MPLS and Internet routing.

I am a network architect and this is one of the solutions that I have worked with.

How has it helped my organization?

We are required to build an MPLS network in our company, and this solution has been very useful.

What is most valuable?

The most valuable features of this solution are MPLS, BGP, and VRF.

What needs improvement?

The support for SD-WAN technology is not mature yet.

I would like to see the setup time reduced.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using this solution for twenty years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

We have no issues with respect to stability. It is ok.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

Scalability is ok.

How are customer service and technical support?

I have not recently been in contact with technical support because it is the operational team that would deal with opening tickets. However, when I dealt with them several years ago, I was satisfied most of the time.

How was the initial setup?

The setup of enterprise routers is primarily hardware and it takes a long time to set up.

What about the implementation team?

Our in-house team performed the deployment.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The price of this solution is high.

What other advice do I have?

In one or two years, once SD-WAN is more mature, we may switch from our traditional routers and protocols to be completely integrated with SD-WAN.

My advice for anybody who is implementing this solution is to consider the routing that is needed because it can change the way you set up and deploy. There are differences between MPLS, internet routing, and office connectivity. SD-WAN will also be something to look into.

This is a good solution, but it's not perfect.

I would rate this solution an eight out of ten.

Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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