NetApp ONTAP Reviews

My use case for the solution includes both business and personal aspects. Personally, I run a lot of file and storage activities at home, managing database operations, and I prefer using NetApp as my backend storage to store data in the cloud instead of relying on third parties storage. 

For the business case at my company, we utilize it effectively, and I support it myself by troubleshooting NetApp issues. In our organization, we mostly use NetApp ONTAP. We also use some features that come with NetApp, such as Cloud Insights and Systems Manager.

NetApp ONTAP has addressed key challenges for our business, especially because our cloud organization provides technology for customers. Our clients have requested multi-protocol support over the last few years. Before NetApp ONTAP, we had services that only supported a single protocol. Now, we have a product that allows customers to launch a single service usable by multiple and different clients, rather than needing to deploy two different products. That's the main game changer for us.

NetApp ONTAP has significantly improved our customer satisfaction and enabled faster service delivery at my organization. It makes it easier to launch and scale for customers. It performs better than other storage systems we've had before, and it supports multiple protocols. Big enterprise customers want storage systems that accommodate various client machines, including Linux, Windows, or Mac. It helps ensure that users can access the same backend effortlessly. Previous services were limited to a particular technology focus, but with NetApp ONTAP, this is no longer an issue, leading to a big win for us.

In choosing NetApp over other vendors, the primary reason was its accessibility and integration capabilities. It works well across various machines, whether they are Windows, Linux, Mac OS, or different types of servers. The hybrid usage is also beneficial for backups and disaster recovery, whether on-premises or in the cloud. I utilize the SnapMirror feature for disaster recovery, and its multi-availability zone support allows customers to launch in different zones to maintain access to their data even if one goes down.

When considering the evolving cybersecurity landscape and the increase in AI, NetApp ONTAP stands out with its own security features. It offers SnapLock for extra security and integration with Active Directory for user authentication. It helps manage secure access for customers in their organization while ensuring that users can authenticate using their username and password. We have never encountered any security issues because NetApp ONTAP includes security defenses built into the service, allowing end users to secure their data effectively.

NetApp ONTAP has absolutely been a game changer for our organization. We support and use different storage services, but this is the first time we have a service and storage that supports multiple protocols, such as SMB, NFS and iSCSI. It has been very helpful, especially for big enterprise customers that want to use these protocol services. It has been a big game changer for us and a big boost over the last few years.

The best features of NetApp ONTAP that I appreciate include its security and compliance aspects. It supports Active Directory for access authentication, requiring users to be domain members authenticated by the domain administrator. There is also antivirus integration for added protection. NetApp ONTAP complies with numerous certifications, such as PCI and HIPAA, which are critical in our industry.

NetApp ONTAP supports different protocols and gives very good performance. It scales very well and can integrate with different client machines. It also works well for backup and disaster recovery.

They can make it more accessible to individuals beyond just enterprises. Many everyday users gravitate towards storage solutions such as Google Drive or OneNote, so making NetApp services more user-friendly for everyone would be beneficial.

They could focus on making it more user-friendly. Currently, many users need a certain level of NetApp knowledge to operate it effectively, often relying on command-line interfaces that demand IT or technology skills. While there is a GUI available through Systems Manager, a lot of management still occurs at the command line, so enhancing the GUI for better usability could be a key focus area.

For our next technology investments, I believe that the AI aspect will be significant. Given the current landscape, many companies are investing in artificial intelligence, and we aim to do the same. I envision having AI or some form of service integrated with our NetApp ONTAP solution in the coming months or years to facilitate easier data searches for end users.

I've been using NetApp ONTAP for three years. When we launched it in my organization, I started supporting it.

There's always room for improvement for every service. I would rate it a nine out of ten for stability.

It scales very well for me. I always use it, and I've enjoyed using it. It has very low latency. It gives the maximum throughput possible. I would rate it an eight out of ten for scalability.

We have 500 to 1,000 users. Our clients are small, medium, and enterprise businesses.

My experiences with NetApp's support team have always been very positive. Their engineers know their stuff and perform well, so I would rate it an eight out of ten.

Positive

When it comes to return on investment and time savings, personally, I've saved a significant amount of time because of NetApp's multi-protocol support. I don't need to set up different services for Linux and Windows. Considering this, I would give it a nine out of ten.

The price could be a little bit cheaper, but you get what you pay for. I would rate it an eight out of ten for pricing because it reflects the quality of the service offered.

We work directly with NetApp ourselves to expand and add different features. There are a lot of features that we add on top of NetApp based on our customers' requests. We talk to our customers and ask them what else they would like to see. If it is a feature demanded by multiple customers, we work with NetApp to see if such a feature can be added to the service itself.

Overall, I rate NetApp ONTAP a nine out of ten. To elevate the solution to a ten, I believe adding AI integration would be crucial.

I have been using this solution for the past year to store our data. We are utilizing a combination of multiple instances, around 20 to 30, and configuring the storage with NetApp ONTAP. 

It functions like shared storage, the data that we use in the instances is stored with NetApp ONTAP. We have configured it as shared storage.

It's very easy to configure, and once we did that, we could use basically everything. Any amount of data can be stored without any issues. 

I did not face significant issues with reliability. It is a multi-edge deployment, so it is always operational. 

I never encountered slowdown issues. We run many instances at all times. Our customers have never reported any slowdown issues with NetApp ONTAP.

For administration, there is no user interface present for NetApp ONTAP, so I have to rely on the ONTAP CLI. 

Also, the documentation for the ONTAP CLI is not comprehensive. It provides only a few examples, which are not helpful in solving issues. More examples would make it easier for me to understand.

I have been using this solution for the past year.

I have not faced many issues with stability. Sometimes, I encounter problems taking backups. Occasionally, a few megabytes of data are missed during backup. When backing up, data coming into the snapshot is not always captured. Such issues are rare, occurring once or twice out of 40 to 50 snapshots.

This solution is flexible and elastic. Whenever I am running out of data, I am able to immediately add some terabytes, and it scales up right away. I do not spend much time adding data or storage capacities, whether upsizing or downsizing.

I am a direct customer and I'm receiving premium support. They are direct customers to AWS. We have cloud-based support. AWS may contact NETAPP directly if there are issues. Whenever I send an email, an immediate response comes from their end. It is a good feature of their service.

Neutral

I used something else related to Windows, however, I eventually migrated to NetApp ONTAP. The number of customers were growing and it became hard to manage storage, and there were limits with Microsoft. ONTAP scales well. We never face issues with performance or availability either.

The initial setup was very difficult; it required ten to 12 people to configure, making it a very large process. Migrating to NetApp ONTAP was a tough process. However, after the migration, everything went well from that day onward. It takes one to two weeks to migrate the data over to ONTAP.

Originally, we configured it first in some nonproduction environments. After that only, we took the initiative to do the production. That was after around one month. There was a full POC and a lot of research. After that, only we configure these two productions. Overall, it takes about one month's time.

Once configured, maintenance can be managed by two or three people.

Maintenance revolves around managing disk space since it is a shared storage. We have to monitor that. 

I need a dedicated team, as there is much work to do in the configuration phase. 

Pricing is confidential and handled by management, not users. 

I would rate NetApp ONTAP between seven out of ten. The documentation is very hard to read, and they do not provide good examples for consideration. 

We manage our data systems with NetApp ONTAP through either the command-line interface or the graphical user interface.

We implemented ONTAP because it provides a unified management interface for all storage, simplifying administration by using the same language for both SAN and NAS environments.

NetApp ONTAP is user-friendly.

The auto-completion feature now simplifies ONTAP management by streamlining command-line operations. When entering commands via the CLI, auto-completion suggests relevant options, improving efficiency and reducing errors. This enhanced functionality has proven effective in managing various storage environments, consistently delivering the expected performance.

We have tested ONTAP in several environments, and its performance has met our expectations.

ONTAP reduces human error by providing helpful auto-completion features, eliminating the need to memorize all commands.

ONTAP helps improve our cost savings because NetApp products are competitively priced compared to IBM and Dell.

We realized the benefits of ONTAP immediately.

Our organization is short-staffed, and ONTAP's ease of storage management is well-suited to our small team.

ONTAP's GUI does not encompass all the features available in the CLI. Some functions can only be executed through the CLI.

I have been using NetApp ONTAP for about eight years.

I would rate the stability of ONTAP eight and a half out of ten. There are bugs from time to time, especially in new versions. If we upgrade, there might be issues with some features, but it is generally stable.

Our previous product faced scalability limitations requiring a complete replacement. However, recent systems, particularly the new NetApp systems, demonstrate significantly improved scalability compared to their predecessors.

The technical support is good.

Positive

Our company used various storage solutions from vendors like Dell, IBM, and Hitachi. However, NetApp ONTAP stands out due to its consistent core functionality, even with feature updates, maintaining simplicity compared to other complex solutions.

The complexity and duration of a NetApp ONTAP deployment depend significantly on the chosen approach. Building a new ONTAP environment from scratch typically takes around two weeks, while migrating an existing storage infrastructure from another vendor to ONTAP can increase the deployment time to two months due to the added complexities of data transfer, compatibility considerations, and potential application downtime.

In my experience of almost 25 years, ONTAP was less time-consuming than most other products I've worked with.

NetApp ONTAP is moderately priced. The tag price is more competitive for the value we get.

I would rate NetApp ONTAP nine out of ten.

We have NetApp ONTAP deployed in multiple locations with 2,500 users.

NetApp ONTAP requires maintenance for upgrades, adding features, and replacing failed disks.

I will recommend ONTAP. It is advisable to consider a proof of concept.

Like NetApp Private Storage, I use the solution for file storage and data source. We use it daily when managing our storage and NetApp's operating system. We log in to it to check the status of the storage. We use it to store all our assets, like the web app, web applications, database applications, Oracle and SQL databases, and VMD.

SnapMirror is good for disaster recovery. We use that currently. Their SAN storage is great. We manage our storage via SAN. We do not currently use NAS because we still use Windows File Servers.

NetApp ONTAP has similar areas of improvement as NetApp Private Storage regarding decreasing the error rate, improving the GUI, technical support and stability, and reducing the price.

I have been using NetApp ONTAP for five years.

I rate the solution's stability a six out of ten. Though NetApp should run 24x7, 365 days a year, we have had five downtimes in a year.

NetApp ONTAP is scalable. They have two types of scalability, "scale up" and "scale out." With "scale up," you can get up to petabytes of data if you have the money to buy those servers and add them to the system. And "scale out" also, you can buy additional controllers, up to 12 nodes, which is pretty good when you are a big company. I rate the scalability a nine out of ten.

NetApp is one of our organization's main storage systems. Every application is scattered on all of our NetApp devices. Applications won't run without it because they need to pull data from NetApp ONTAP.

I have used Synology and HP before. My current company uses NetApp ONTAP, though I learned to use NetApp at my last job.

I rate the initial setup an eight or nine out of ten because it was easy. Maybe it was easy because I worked as a NetApp engineer before, so I know how to do it properly. It's easy because I used to deploy a NetApp product four times a month in my previous company. My organization deploys the product to end users, companies that buy the solution from us. Most recently, it took us a day to deploy this solution. Steps involved in deploying the solution included rock and stock, cabling zoning, and then provisioning of storage to the data stores.

We needed two people to deploy the solution, with one person as an assistant. The assistant will come from the vendor, who sometimes sends two people for deployment. The vendor asks for all the needed details before they go there, and if provided already, it will be easy from there because we'll just input everything. Rock and stock only take 20 minutes, and connecting cables takes 30 minutes.

I am the only storage engineer maintaining the solution in our company for now. My colleague also checks when I'm not on duty, and they need to check when the monitoring team provides information that some of our LUNs or volumes are highly utilized already. Depending on the ship, one expert can do it for the whole company.

The solution is quite pricey compared to other solutions. Additional costs exist if you want a license for a feature like SnapMirror. Other vendors do not do that anymore. When you buy their storage, it comes with these features, so this is a problem with NetApp because you need to buy everything before you can use it.

ONTAP is the operating system that comes with NetApp, and ONTAP is installed on the hardware they provide.

Don't use versions 9.8 to 9.11. Those versions have everything removed. They made the administrators' lives harder when they removed some of the functionalities in the GUI, the dashboard. Everything was good when we were using ONTAP clusters 9.0 to 9.7. You could click and do whatever you wanted there. For example, you could add ECB. When the higher version came out, 9.8, they removed a lot. You then needed to research how to do it via CLI. You needed to be an expert to do whatever you wanted to do. I have not seen 9.11 yet, but I hope they have fixed the GUI already. I rate the solution between an eight out of ten because of the price and the downtime.

We have multiple data centers in different countries where we need local access to shared storage and network storage. 

We have AFF platforms and FAS platforms from NetApp for either hot storage purposes or cold storage, with cold being our backups and hot being for our production applications. 

The types of storage volumes we have are for virtual machine hard disk storage. We currently are using VMware and will be switching away from that due to the Broadcom license situation, but NetApp ONTAP works very well with VMware as it is integrated effectively. We rely on it for that. 

Additionally, we use Kubernetes and have numerous applications hosted in that environment. We use multiple protocols for persistent volumes including NFS, iSCSI, and NVMe over TCP. These comprise our main use cases.

The fact that NetApp ONTAP supports NVMe over TCP is a significant advantage. This newer technology is very performant. We have faced some issues with it, not specifically due to NetApp ONTAP, but due to Linux kernel bugs which are being addressed currently. Because it's a newer protocol, there are some issues, but having access to that particular protocol with low-latency network storage is one of the best features.

Another valuable feature is the number of Ansible modules provided by NetApp. We use these to automate the setup and configuration of the NetApp ONTAP cluster and to create actual volumes. It has a REST API, which the Ansible modules likely use under the hood, but the fact that there are multiple ways to automate the storage is fantastic.

The system provides alerting for misconfigurations with links to knowledge-based articles for corrections. 

Upgrades of the NetApp ONTAP operating system can be configured for full automation, though we prefer manual control.

They could expand what is possible to do with automation as there are gaps in the Ansible module coverage they have. There is certain functionality that NetApp ONTAP offers that these modules are incapable of handling. They do have some generic Ansible modules, so you can use the module and run a CLI command with that, which allows you to accomplish everything in a way. It would be better if they had more modules tailored to specific use cases where you don't need to wrap the CLI commands, keeping with the Ansible declarative framework. It's not a major gap in functionality, however, expanding the automation capabilities they already have would be beneficial.

I've used the solution for about two years.

We haven't seen a regression. The use of the newer protocol, NVMe over TCP, has added some instability compared to using iSCSI, but there hasn't been a true regression.

The NetApp ONTAP cluster works with HA pairs of controller nodes that are paired up for redundancy purposes. 

You can expand your NetApp ONTAP cluster by adding more of these HA pairs. When we have just one HA pair in our cluster, NVMe over TCP works flawlessly with our Kubernetes Linux volumes. 

However, when we have multiple HA pairs in the NetApp ONTAP cluster, we start seeing issues with attaching volumes to Kubernetes nodes and mounting them into Kubernetes pods. This seems to be related to an issue in the Linux kernel with the handoff between different HA pairs.

The quality of support is very good, though it varies depending on who is handling the issue. The response times are fast, however, with some of the bigger issues, such as the NVMe over TCP and Linux kernel problem, more effort was required. 

When we reached out, they remained continually engaged, and while we had to push them to reach out to Linux distribution providers such as Canonical for Ubuntu, once they started the engagement, everything proceeded smoothly. 

Overall, there are no substantial complaints with the support.

We haven't used another SAN or NAS system, as NetApp is the only one we've used in that category. 

However, we have used network storage in the form of GlusterFS, an open-source storage platform that relies on commodity hardware. With GlusterFS, multiple servers can be used as nodes or peers in a Gluster cluster. We used the free community version for years and encountered regular bugs that impacted performance. These bugs were not always fixed quickly. 

We also experienced compatibility issues between certain versions of the Linux kernel and Gluster. The performance was slower, partly due to the nature of the Gluster protocol being more NAS-oriented. 

With NetApp ONTAP, we can use SAN protocols that are more performant due to their block-level nature. The biggest gap with Gluster, aside from performance, was the lack of paid support, which is included with NetApp ONTAP and has proven invaluable.

The initial setup was straightforward. The main challenge was learning their concepts and understanding the different components needed within NetApp ONTAP to enable applications to access data. This included networking setup, configuring disks in the platform, and setting up storage virtual machines to separate permissions and group different use cases. We were operational within three months.

The pricing is high. That said, we received favorable pricing at Intel due to the company's large NetApp ONTAP deployment across different organizations. While we're not in the IT department (we're in a shadow IT team), we benefit from the bulk pricing deals. 

Despite this, it remains expensive. A significant advantage is that hardware purchases include support for multiple years, eliminating the need for annual support agreement renewals. 

When considering the included support, technology upgrades, and extensive platform testing, the enterprise-level pricing provides considerable peace of mind.

Based on comparison with other enterprise companies we've received support from, NetApp ONTAP performs better than others. While they sometimes require additional pushing, they deserve a rating of nine out of ten. 

I choose NetApp ONTAP over their competition because NetApp ONTAP and its devices are very powerful, with excellent scalability and efficiency in input/output operations per second. The ease of use of their operating systems is something you cannot compare, as they are very stable, and I am always happy with this.

The impact of the NetApp ONTAP product on my business is significant, as productivity and seamless scalability are crucial when increasing data capacity. It has a powerful effect on the organization and the costs of running the business, as well as on the technical personnel handling these tasks behind the scenes, which greatly helps improve decision-making in the organization.

I cannot pinpoint what I would like to see improved in the NetApp ONTAP product for now.

NetApp ONTAP has a very powerful tool in its operating systems and is robust for storage purposes, but I cannot pinpoint any specific features or functionalities I would like to see enhanced at the moment.

In the last 14 years before I started working on NetApp ONTAP, I worked with Oracle and Oracle's Sun Microsystems, their storage, and the servers of storage in the past. I also worked with HP, Dell, and IBM, which makes me think that NetApp ONTAP has an edge over all these vendors.

In the last 14 years before I started working on NetApp ONTAP, I worked with Oracle and Oracle's Sun Microsystems, their storage, and the servers of storage. I also worked with HP, Dell, and IBM, which makes me think that NetApp ONTAP has an edge over all these vendors.

The costs of NetApp ONTAP filers are very high, but the performance outweighs the costs, especially when working with larger organizations that generate bigger data and need their data to be well preserved; therefore, you must go for quality, which is what NetApp ONTAP provides.

The evolving cybersecurity landscape and proliferation of AI have influenced the technology decisions for my organization, leading to powerful improvements. Though I have not personally been involved much in the use of AI within the organization, we have other teams that handle those cybersecurity aspects, and I focus on the storage aspects.

I definitely have plans on the table for the management regarding how we will expand our use of the NetApp ONTAP solution, as NetApp ONTAP will always be in the forefront.

I am not aware of emerging business needs or growth opportunities that could be supported by expanding our use of NetApp ONTAP, as I am not part of the management. I will only recommend it when there is a need.

I do not have any goals for the next technology investment at the company at the moment.

What would have made my rating a 10 might be related to the pricing, as I know it to be quite high. However, I am sure that NetApp ONTAP will continue to maintain good quality in the storage enterprise, and I think the cost of these devices could be reviewed.

I would rate NetApp ONTAP as a product a nine, as I believe there might be other areas in which they will want to make some improvements, but I want to be fair and put it at nine.

The main use cases for NetApp ONTAP are that it's a feature-rich file system technology, which can be viewed in different operations from my experience working as a subject matter expert on the management side and the AWS side. 

It's an operating system that works the same way as a traditional file system, where you need to have a separate compute for it, and it's quite intuitive that you can interact with it the way you would a Unix or Linux system. The operating system itself is uniquely based. Some of the use cases that customers use it for include file shares, which could be for protocols such as Linux or Unix protocols, as well as Windows CIFS and SMB file shares. 

The nice thing about it is that you can have these systems use the NetApp ONTAP file share, whether you are a Unix or Linux user, and the most helpful thing about it is that you can manage all those users and allow them to have permissions, finding different configurations when it comes to that. 

Another noteworthy feature is compression, which optimizes space, as it helps with deduplication to manage redundant files and optimize space. Moreover, it has its own disaster recovery and archiving solution called SnapMirror, which is their snapshot replication technology that replicates data to a secondary site for high availability and durability. 

In terms of emerging technologies, NetApp ONTAP can interact with large language models and perform natural language processing tasks, acting as a data source to train AI applications and efficiently query data. Additionally, with its in-built monitoring capabilities, NetApp ONTAP aids in indexing due to its structured file system.

The impact of NetApp ONTAP technology on the way I do business is significant because, unlike traditional file systems, it has different features that enable it to operate as an operating system. This intuitiveness means that customers have a much more centralized place to manage everything, providing a broader scope of control. It's more centralized, allowing different types of storage in terms of network storage, whether it's file shares such as SMB, NFS, or iSCSI block for low-latency use cases.

Global customers greatly benefit from the ability to bring volume closer to end users who may be far from the original site. As for integration, I am slightly biased as an AWS user, but it integrates very well with Azure and has the tooling to interact with GenAI services on AWS and Azure, with Google Cloud offering integration capabilities as well. I observe that businesses admire NetApp ONTAP for its cache mechanism, allowing for cloning of volumes on the fly without complications. NetApp ONTAP also saves costs by utilizing intelligent tiering for data storage, balancing between cold storage and SSD, and using thin provisioning to manage storage capacity efficiently.

Currently, I don't have any notable suggestions for improving NetApp ONTAP; however, there might be potential in incorporating more AI features within the NetApp environment. 

A greater level of integration and smart capabilities, allowing the system to provide suggestions based on usage patterns without user intervention, could enhance the overall experience. Observing common issues, such as configuration discrepancies, could inform improvements in user guidance.

I started working with NetApp ONTAP technology in 2022 or end of 2021.

In choosing NetApp ONTAP, my organization did not consider specific competing companies; rather, the decision was made by higher management to move from traditional file systems to something that offers better replication capability for our customers across different sites. NetApp ONTAP technology presented an appealing solution, and upon announcing its availability, we noticed an increase in customers utilizing the technology, indicating its growing popularity.

The impact of NetApp ONTAP on my customers has been positive, simplifying their experience compared to traditional file systems, as the technology centralizes their data easily and allows them to take full advantage of its features. There are emerging business needs that can be supported by expanding the use of NetApp ONTAP for my customers. 

They continuously present intriguing ideas on utilizing the technology, particularly regarding AI integration. On a scale of 1 to 10, I would rate NetApp ONTAP an 8 out of ten.

My use cases right now are to provision enterprise storage to any end user in an enterprise.

As an architect, I design things using NetApp ONTAP, and I see benefits overall since it integrates into many more ecosystems in IT than any other product. The amount of development it does towards public cloud integration is huge, so that's a welcome move.

What I appreciate the most about the product is its resiliency; it is very robust, and most of the time, a good configuration does wonders. 

One area where they could improve NetApp ONTAP is their ability to migrate to and from different enterprise storage. I love NetApp ONTAP, however, as businesses get narrower in mainstream IT, I don't see a great future for NetApp as dedicated storage; it needs to find its way into public clouds.

I have been using it for close to four years now.

Stability depends upon the use case. The way we have set up systems, they have fared well with no question about data responsibility, however, we have seen issues beyond NetApp ONTAP that have led to problems we were unable to diagnose.

They are great at scalability. The whole configuration that is set up is always ready to be scalable, which has been my experience working with that product.

NetApp ONTAP has improved significantly since a decade ago, growing towards one platform support for all types of products. I would rate their support as getting better at delivering services than they were a decade ago. On a scale from one to ten, I would give the support an eight.

Positive

I have implemented other products beyond NetApp ONTAP which have cost at least two to three times less and are still able to deliver enterprise-grade solutions.

The initial deployment was very simple for me. Our setup took less than a day. That timeline makes sense, provided that you have all the logistics arranged and the network setup. We were to consume and have storage ready to use within 24 hours.

There isn't really any maintenance needed, unless there's integration into other systems. The compatibility matters a lot. If I use ONTAP, I need to confirm what is the protocol that supports it currently. And I have to validate if that protocol is supported in the next version of NetApp. That demands a bit of maintenance on my side.

For the deployment, on our side, I was alone handling the setup, however, from the NetApp ONTAP team, professional services did all the work for me.

Regarding pricing, if I am an enterprise, there's something called a license agreement that happens between platinum customers and NetApp ONTAP, where they offer the best pricing. 

However, as a new enterprise wanting to start with NetApp ONTAP, I might not get all the benefits, and NetApp ONTAP might be losing out on those types of customers.

We're an ONTAP enterprise customer.

NetApp ONTAP does not really require maintenance on my end, but I do find that the integration to other IT systems, such as virtualization or databases, and the compatibility of such configurations matter significantly. 

If I have to use NetApp ONTAP, I need to confirm the supported protocol and validate if that protocol is supported in the next version of NetApp ONTAP, which demands some maintenance from my side. 

On a scale of one to ten, I rate this solution a seven.