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Senior Unix Administrator (Storage Archive Specialist) at a media company with 1,001-5,000 employees
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It allows us to complete daily backup and restore tasks quicker than from physical tape, but it needs further integration with NetBackup to allow the use of catalyst storage as well as AIR.

What is most valuable?

The use of the OST product for NetBackup AIR has been the most valuable feature as this allows seamless Disaster Recovery options.

How has it helped my organization?

The B6200 allows us to complete daily backup and restore tasks quicker than from physical tape. Also, we can use the replication of deduplicated backups to our offsite facility rather than sending lots of tapes

What needs improvement?

Further integration with NetBackup to allow the use of catalyst storage as well as AIR would be an improvement.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using this product for approximately five years.

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What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

When we first obtained the B6200 we did fill the disks due to our lack of understanding of how the the storage sets worked, which caused us an issue as the system at the time shutdown the F/C connections to stop any further data being sent to it. HP had to become involved in restoring the system, but this problem has now been addressed with new firmware.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

With the older firmware we did have problems with the B6200 crashing with kernel problems, though this has now been addressed with the firmware updates.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We have not had any problems with the scalability of the B6200.

How are customer service and support?

Customer Service:

I have used HP services on a few occasions when setting up new functions and for problem resolutions and have found the service to be very good.

Technical Support:

The technical support has been very good and the specialists know the product and can resolve the issues that were presented to them.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We switched from the HP VLS12000 system to the B6200 as the we wanted to use a full disk based backup solution rather than a Virtual Library. Also, the B6200 provides the support for NetBackup AIR.

How was the initial setup?

We had a three-day onsite training course, so we found it fairly straightforward, I have since changed the configuration to accommodate NetBackup AIR and followed the HP documentation, which was easy to navigate and implement.

What about the implementation team?

The set-up was completed by HP services.

What other advice do I have?

The HP StoreOnce range is great if you are running NetBackup as it integrates well with the backup product, the deduplication rates are very favorable, and it also allows the use of the DR option using AIR.

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it_user161661 - PeerSpot reviewer
Solutions Architect at a comms service provider with 10,001+ employees
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Initial configuration into the network needs improvement but deduplication features are valuable.

What is most valuable?

The ease of use and configuration once implemented and the deduplication features.

How has it helped my organization?

Before the StoreOnce solution was implemented all kinds of backup solutions and software were being used in this international company, making it very difficult to manage, keep control over the backups, losing data left and right, very unprofessional.

Also a lot of tapes needed to be kept offside, using one of these companies that comes and collects tapes to store in a secure location, this costs the company a lot of money.

Now several StoreOnce appliances sync with each other to take care of the disaster recovery compliancy, remote offices stream deduplicated backup data to the StoreOnce and use the same backup software as all other locations.

What needs improvement?

The initial installation and configuration into the network and the integration into the infrastructure needs some improvement, but it's not too difficult if you plan right.

For how long have I used the solution?

For well over 1 year now.

What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

The deployment of the solution is done by HP, they insisted on it, the initial planning was the task of the client, there were some bumps along the road, but in the end it was deployed rather quickly.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

No issues during initial config, can't say there were any stability issues.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The scalability is something you need to plan for ahead, the amount of TB you're looking to backup now and how much it would grow in the future. Depending on the outcome of your calculation you need to choose the model accordingly (the higher models allow for more scalability - read higher amount of TB that can be stored).

How are customer service and technical support?

Customer Service:

No issues with customer service, quick and correct.

Technical Support:

They could answer all our questions and helped us to get going without too much time and effort.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

Previously it was a bunch of solutions (backup to disk, to tape, etc) and all kinds of different backup software dispersed over different locations, very unmanageable and lots of issues with backup. It needed to be consolidated and in the meantime it needed to provide the necessary Disaster Recovery abilities. That's why this solution was chosen.

How was the initial setup?

Initial setup was done along with HP, it wasn't overly complex if you know something about backup and the software solution to go along with it, if you have to start from scratch it can be quite the task, it isn't plug and play, there is quite some configuration to be done, you also need to know your backup environments in and out, plan ahead. You need to know what goes where and how it will be replicated.

What about the implementation team?

As mentioned earlier, the solution was implemented along with HP, their level of expertise was above par.

What was our ROI?

Too soon to tell, but initial reports tell us it definitely will save us a lot of money, on tapes and tape handling alone.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

Yes, some other solutions came across our desk, but I can't remember which ones though. Pretty early on we chose to go with HP StoreOnce.

What other advice do I have?

Read up on the solution, there are a lot of advantages in this product, all depends on your environment, if you are one of those companies that has a lot of tapes and different locations, it could definitely be something for you. The deduplication is great on this solution, no more TB's of wasted space, send deduplicated backup data over those expensive leased lines saving bandwidth, and so on...

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Thanks for the review - If you didn't hear about it, HP StoreOnce 6500 was named the backup product of the year by Storage Magazine/TechTarget. There is a blog post you can read on my blog: hpstorage.me Lots of good stuff coming with HP StoreOnce - watch my blog to stay in the loop: www.hp.com

Thanks again for the review!

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it_user488799 - PeerSpot reviewer
Project Manager at a local government with 1,001-5,000 employees
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We needed to consolidate a particular aspect of storage but we also wanted to store more data and increase the retention time.

What is most valuable?

The feature we were looking for was deduplication. Now, thanks to Catalyst containers, we have federated deduplication across all our remote sites.

We wanted something that would easily fit in our infrastructure. As we were familiar with HP products, it was very convenient for us to use tools we were used to such as iLO, Insight Manager, and so on.

How has it helped my organization?

Before we used HP StoreOnce, the backup was stored on DAS, which was fine until you have a problem in a disk and lose all your data.

So, we needed to consolidate this particular aspect of storage but we also wanted to store more data and increase the retention time.

The native replication feature allowed us to take it to the next level of consolidation with automated off-site replication. We now have site-level recovery as opposed to the disk-level recovery we had 3 years ago.

What needs improvement?

The product is doing just fine as it is now. An improvement would be an improved deduplication algorithm.

For how long have I used the solution?

We've been using the solution for 3 years now. We added a StoreOnce 4700 unit last year so that we can replicate all the data in our datacenter.


It is something we were thinking about for a long time. The support of Catalyst container by Veeam Backup was the thing that was lacking until last year.

What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

Due to the huge number of sites we have, we needed something easy to deploy. Configuring a new unit is a matter of minutes.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

I was wondering at the time if we would have to deal with some hardware failure somewhere every other week and it turns out it's a solid solution, we encountered very few problem regarding hardware.

We have a 7/1 deduplication rate, which in our environment is pretty descent.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We're currently using StoreOnce 2620 & 2700 on our 175 remote sites which are replicated on a Storeonce 4700 in our datacenter. The thing that I was afraid of when we chose StoreVirtual was the huge number of sites and therefore the number of StoreOnce units.

When it comes to scalability, expansion shelves are available for all models and HP provides a VSA version of StoreOnce, which is free of charge up to 1TB, so it is satisfying for us.

How are customer service and technical support?

Upgrade first, talk next. If you happen to be out of date regarding FW or patches, then you are the problem and not the unit. Basically, that's how it works at HP.

That being said, we have h+4 SLA on these units and the customer service never failed us so far.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

Before we started using StoreOnce, every site had its own backup solution and its own storage for it, so we wanted to harmonize all of that. We were looking for a solution which would provide features like deduplication, native replication, ease of use and available on VSA as well.

It turns out StoreOnce was the only solution at the time. We had proposals reflecting different approaches, with different products bundled all together, or single products with a workaround for the one missing feature.

So we evaluated an Avamar grid, as well both physical and VSA. The deduplication rate was higher with Avamar and the replication worked out of the box, but if we wanted to stay in our budget range, we needed to go with a central Avamar grid and VSA on DAS on the remote site.

We went for StoreOnce because we didn't want our backup to rely on the remote site WAN connection and because the local VSA on DAS was not really an improvement.

How was the initial setup?

It was straightforward. The very first unit was configured in 15 minutes and was ready to go.

What about the implementation team?

We have a staff dedicated for that, so that was an in-house job. The StoreOnce unit runs on Linux. We have Linux admins, and it is frustrating for them to see that the product works out of the box and there's no need to log in using SSH.

Therefore, I recommend in-house implementation. It's easy, and the iLO UI is very user-friendly.

What was our ROI?

We don't have financial ROI. Our goal was to consolidate the infrastructure at all cost.

What other advice do I have?

There's a VSA version free of charge up to 1TB, so just try it.


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it_user253311 - PeerSpot reviewer
Manager with 501-1,000 employees
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We were previously using a different solution but our storage needs grew.

What is most valuable?

It performs pretty well with minimal to no issues.

How has it helped my organization?

It has allowed us greater storage with a reduced footprint. It also works well with our servers – including our Dell servers. It was important that we have an integrated environment.

What needs improvement?

We had some initial driver issues, but I think the newer release has changed all that. The one issue I have is the maintenance package – it's very expensive. If I were to renew it, it would remain expensive and not cost effective. The initial proposal was inconsistent with what I found in terms of maintenance and renewal costs. A break/fix-type package would be better.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've used it for four years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It is pretty stable; excellent, in fact. I had one very minimal hard-drive failure.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We recently added more and it went very well. It's easy to add to this product.

How are customer service and technical support?

8/10 for both. Issues were dealt with quickly and efficiently.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We were previously using a different solution but our storage needs grew and we decided we needed a new solution.

How was the initial setup?

It was straightforward.

What about the implementation team?

We had an HP engineer come in for implementation. He was excellent.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

Dell and IBM. We chose HP because of the price and the vendor support.

What other advice do I have?

The two things that we looked at were performance and cost.

This particular product is stable, and the support has been good. If you want a reliable and reasonably-priced product, I would recommend it.

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Thanks for the review StoreOnce. For those that don't know the portfolio well, here's a blog post with a good overview. Be sure to watch the videos too: hpstorage.me

Steven - I'm happy to answer questions you have. HP 3PAR is really a different class of storage compared to Nimble or NexGen. Both can only compete with the very low end of 3PAR. If you have specific questions, feel free to PM me.

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Sr. Enterprise Solutions Engineer at Palpay
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An excellent backup storage solution that's easy to use and offers great stability
Pros and Cons
  • "The initial setup is one of the most user-friendly B2B user solutions. It's good, it's easy. Deployment usually takes less than one day. You only need one person for deployment and maintenance."
  • "The solution should continue to refine its integration capabilities. I also see they are starting to use cloud integration as well, which is good, but they should do more to integrate with it."

What is our primary use case?

We implement the full data centre - from A-Z. Our clients typically use the solution as a backup data destination.

What is most valuable?

The most valuable aspect of the solution is the catalyst feature. It can integrate with various other backup solutions. also HPE introduced the cloud bank that can provide cloud storage for your data. 

What needs improvement?

The solution should continue to refine its integration capabilities. I also see they are starting to use cloud integration as well, which is good, but they should do more to integrate with it.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've been selling the solution for five years now.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The solution is very stable.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

catalyst integration can give you unmatchable performance.

How are customer service and support?

Technical support is good. If it's not good we make it good because we, as a partner, offer technical support ourselves.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

Most of our customers are switching from other backup solutions. Many have switched, for example, from EMC Data Domain. It was the most popular in our country at one time but many people are moving to StoreOnce.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is one of the most user-friendly B2B user solutions. It's good, it's easy. Deployment usually takes less than one day. You only need one person for deployment and maintenance.

What other advice do I have?

We mainly work with the on-premises deployment model. We're an HPE partner.

I would advise new users to check the integration if they already have a data solution in place.

I would rate the solution ten out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

Hybrid Cloud

If public cloud, private cloud, or hybrid cloud, which cloud provider do you use?

Other
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IT Infrastructure at a real estate/law firm with 1,001-5,000 employees
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An extremely stable solution that's fast and offers a good deduplication ratio
Pros and Cons
  • "The speed and deduplication ratio are two of the most valuable features of the solution."
  • "The appliance doesn't have the global deduplication, it has StoreOnce deduplication. It does not deduplicate across the appliance, it will deduplicate in one particular store. With the global deduplication, I could store more data."

What is our primary use case?

We primarily use the solution for backup storage.

How has it helped my organization?

Nine years ago, we were relying on backup tapes only. Now, since we've moved to StoreOnce, as per the legal and compliance perspective we still have to use tapes, but we have reduced usage a lot. We don't have to transfer the tapes from one side to another side. That task has been reduced because we have StoreOnce in two locations, and we take backup on one appliance, and that appliance is replicated to the other side. The backup and restore speed is very fast, compared to tape. There is less administrative work. 

What is most valuable?

The speed and deduplication ratio are two of the most valuable features of the solution.

What needs improvement?

I'm using this product to save some files. It has a feature where I can make it as an SMB share. When I started using it for CIFS, the SMB share, had a limitation of 1,000,005 only. Considering 1,000,000 objects are in one share, it's too limiting.

The appliance doesn't have global deduplication, it has StoreOnce deduplication. It does not deduplicate across the appliance, it will deduplicate in one particular store. With global deduplication, I could store more data.

This appliance currently doesn't have SSD drives. I'm not sure if new models include them, but I believe if they can include NVMe or SSD drives as a cache device, they can increase the backup speed a lot and that can help with the global deduplication.

One of the reasons to not enable global deduplication was to not impact the backup and restore speed, but I believe if they include a cache device like NVMe or SSDs, then the drawback of enabling global deduplication can be removed. 

For how long have I used the solution?

I've been using the solution for nine years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The solution is very stable. After nine years, I have yet to have a problem.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

Scalability is good. When we bought the current model, 6500, we bought around 200 TB of capacity, and we are using more than three TB of data. In terms of scalability, we can go from 200 TB to 400 TB to 600 TB, or more. They also provide cloud banks, but I don't think we will be requiring that amount of storage in the future. Because of deduplication, we don't have to add so much physical capacity. Even if I add 32 TB or whatever the minimum capacity is, it can still hold lots of terabytes of data.

We have 1,300 users and three admin who are maintaining the solution. We use the solution every day to run backups.

How are customer service and technical support?

Technical support is very good.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We didn't have another solution previously, in terms of backup storage, but in terms of software, I have used some other products like Windows deduplication. This solution, however, offers reliability and stability.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is straightforward. Deployment took less than one hour. We have three admins, but I am the primary admin, so you only need one person for maintenance.

What about the implementation team?

An HP consultant came to assist with deployment.  Deployment assistance comes with it when you buy the solution. Our experience with the deployment consultant was good.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The license is part of the hardware. You don't need to buy or renew it separately.

StoreOnce comes in a package: hardware and software. All the licenses come with it. Software licenses for backup solutions like Data Protector you do have to purchase separately, but in terms of the backup appliance, it comes with all the features and the license as part of it. You have to only purchase the application license but that is very cheap.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We did evaluate Data Domain from EMC, but I didn't like it because Data Domain has other limitations. In terms of density per rack, it was using more rack capacity. Also, they were selling three different products, so it was adding too much complexity. I decided to go with StoreOnce.

What other advice do I have?

We are using the private cloud deployment model.

If you purchase the product, you will have peace of mind. You don't have to worry about the product at all. My only advice is, get it installed by an HP consultant, not by a third-party or partner, because the HP team will give you the correct advice before implementing. I strongly recommend going through the HP publishing best practices guide, for each and every hardware they have released as well. StoreOnce also has a best practices guide from HP. It will be a 10-20 page document. Go through it, and it will really help you to architect or design the solution prior to implementing it.

I would rate the solution 8.5 out of ten.

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it_user494163 - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Software Engineer at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees
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We can back up our data directly from stores, so it has reduced our expenses.

What is most valuable?

Deduplication and replication are both extremely important for storing huge chunks of data.

Secondly, now it has extended support to VMware and MS SQL via EMC.

How has it helped my organization?

Well, it has improved the organization in the sense we can back up our data into StoreOnce directly from stores etc., so it's become cheaper for us.

What needs improvement?

I would like to see it support open stack and also other vendors’ hardware, if possible, via EMC.

I have an existing EMC backup solution and HPE StoreOnce solution.

Typically this happens in case of M&A between two companies when two different companies use two different storage vendors. Now I want to move my data from EMC to StoreOnce, but I don't have a direct way to move this data. I suggest that if it would offer OpenStack support then we will be able to freely move data across.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using it for six months.

What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

I have not really encountered any deployment, stability or scalability issues. We haven’t faced any major issues.

How are customer service and technical support?

HPE technical support is a bit slower compared to EMC, which might have a larger support team that can respond faster.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

Its deduplication feature and 3PAR support were the primary reasons we selected it.

How was the initial setup?

I didn’t install it, and I was not there while it was getting installed. However, as far as I’ve heard, they didn't face any major issues.

What was our ROI?

Just look into the cost factor if you have some other system already in place. Like, say you already have EMC products, then it's probably better to stick with them.

Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: My company is an HPE Platinum Partner.
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It is possible to use Ethernet and Fabric at the same time with the same device.

What is most valuable?

The Catalyst Store with Data Protector:

  • It is possible to use Ethernet and Fabric at the same time with the same device.
  • The configuration of Data Protector is easy.
  • The media administration in Data Protector was simplified.
  • The recovery of the cell manager in a disaster is more easy.
  • It is possible to see the information of backup task in the StoreOnce device; before that, this information was only in the Data Protector database.

How has it helped my organization?

We implemented Catalyst with Data Protector in March 2016; after the change, the recovery process time of one or two days was reduced to 30 minutes in most of cases.

What needs improvement?

I think the integration with Data Protector and virtual environments is an area for improvement.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using it for five months.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

I did not encounter any stability issues.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

I have not yet encountered any scalability issues.

How are customer service and technical support?

I think that technical support is a weak point. I feel that technical support does not know the product. The call center is prepared to support a hardware error, but when we have any doubts regarding a new configuration, they have the same doubts. In this case, we need to contact some friends at HPE.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We previously used the same StoreOnce, but without Catalyst. Catalyst is the sum of NFS plus SAN disk in the same backup repository.

How was the initial setup?

Configuration is very simple; the problem was changing the minds of the operators.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

For a small configuration, it is expensive, but if you need to backup many servers with a lot of data, I think it is a good price.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

I evaluated EMC before choosing this product.

Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: My company is an HPE partner.
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