Consultant at Daniyals Inc
Real User
Effective automation, easy to use, but stability needs improvement
Pros and Cons
  • "The solution is simple to use and has effective automation."
  • "There needs to be better stability during heavy capacity in future releases."

What is our primary use case?

I use VMware SRM for DR testing and VR.

What is most valuable?

The solution is simple to use and has effective automation.

What needs improvement?

VMware SRM does not have the capacity to do DR tests. We had issues whenever we were doing tests with the root cause analysis. We had 70 to 80 percent successful results because the vCenters were overloaded and that was the reason that we were having capacity issues.

We have been experiencing an additional problem when adding a regular VM in the replicated storage. By default, it will show an error. However, there is not any monitoring mechanism that would show you are not supposed to have a regular VM which is non-VR in the replicated SRM storage. Whenever we used to do testing we had to figure out that a regular VM is there and remove it manually.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using this solution for approximately seven years.

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What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The stability should be smooth, and as for the capacity, we should be able to run the test successfully. However, from our research and DR test results, we came to the conclusion that we have to run the DR test during the non-production hours. Logically, they should be able to be done during the production hours, but that is not the case. We have to ensure that the vCenters are free and are not doing regular work for us not to have any issues during the DR test.

There needs to be better stability during heavy capacity in future releases.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The solution is easy to scale.

The solution is used extensively in our large organization.

How are customer service and support?

When we first started out using this solution we encountered a few issues and used the support but we now know how to fix most of the issues and have not used them. Additionally, we have our own team for support.

How was the initial setup?

The installation is logically simple and in the medium range of difficulty. However, you need to make sure you have the proper infrastructure.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

I have evaluated Veritas and Zerto.

What other advice do I have?

I would advise others looking into implementing VMware SRM not to totally be dependent upon it. Review other solutions, such as Veritas regulatory platform and Zerto. There are newer VM DR options coming out regularly and they should not have only one solution.

I rate VMware SRM a six out of ten.

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SAN and UNIX Administrator at a comms service provider with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
Excellent replication feature, extremely stable and has a straightforward initial setup
Pros and Cons
  • "The replication is the solution's most valuable feature. If we have some issues on the VM in the main site we can migrate it to another site automatically."
  • "If you have a failover case, you need to work on it manually. It would be helpful if this could be automated. It would simplify things."

What is our primary use case?

We primarily use the solution for disaster recovery.

What is most valuable?

The replication is the solution's most valuable feature. If we have some issues on the VM in the main site we can migrate it to another site automatically. 

The configuration assembly for the VMware is good.

What needs improvement?

If you have a failover case, you need to work on it manually. It would be helpful if this could be automated. It would simplify things.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've been using the solution for about three years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The stability of the solution is great. We've tested the system and haven't discovered any bugs.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The solution is very scalable.

How are customer service and technical support?

Technical support is amazing. They have a great background in VMware issues and engineering.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is very straightforward. It's quite simple. However, those that implement it must have some experience in virtualization. In terms of deployment, you can have a demo regarding SRM and need to apply the scenario on it. Afterward, you can apply it to your environment. It's very easy.

What about the implementation team?

I handled the implementation myself.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

You need a license for SRM. We have a permanent license. There aren't additional fees if you need access to support. However, you can upgrade to another support tier. If you like, you can pay extra for premium support.

What other advice do I have?

We're using the on-premises deployment model.

I'd recommend the solution. I'd rate it ten out of ten.

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Senior Information Technology Manager at a retailer with 5,001-10,000 employees
Real User
Good failover time and excellent support
Pros and Cons
  • "Our systems fail over using SRM. So, we do a big bang DR, which is biannual, and we fail over our fairly massive Epic electronic health record (EHR) and our core applications. It takes us about 30 minutes to fail over using SRM, which is pretty good. In most hospitals that have Epic installed, Epic does the audit to make sure that we can fail over if something were to happen. Normally, sites will have a DR solution specific to the EHR, but right now, our pain point is the third-party tier-one clinical applications."
  • "We've had configuration issues on occasion. We start to fail over, and then we have to call it off because the configuration is not right, or the data stores aren't configured correctly in the secondary data center. Oftentimes, it is just the experience level of the team, and we have to bring in the vendor to help and validate our configuration."

What is our primary use case?

We use SRM for our failover strategy. It is for disaster recovery on failover.

What is most valuable?

Our systems fail over using SRM. So, we do a big bang DR, which is biannual, and we fail over our fairly massive Epic electronic health record (EHR) and our core applications. It takes us about 30 minutes to fail over using SRM, which is pretty good. In most hospitals that have Epic installed, Epic does the audit to make sure that we can fail over if something were to happen. Normally, sites will have a DR solution specific to the EHR, but right now, our pain point is the third-party tier-one clinical applications.

What needs improvement?

We've had configuration issues on occasion. We start to fail over, and then we have to call it off because the configuration is not right, or the data stores aren't configured correctly in the secondary data center. Oftentimes, it is just the experience level of the team, and we have to bring in the vendor to help and validate our configuration.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using this solution for probably five years.

How are customer service and technical support?

Their support is excellent.

What other advice do I have?

I would rate it an eight out of 10. There is some complexity there, and that's where I would bring it down from a 10.

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Systems Engineer at EVONICEVONIC
Real User
Top 5Leaderboard
User-friendly software with good technical support services
Pros and Cons
  • "It has a good and effective user interface."
  • "The product's stability could be better."

What is our primary use case?

We use the product to implement discovery for server and database solutions.

What is most valuable?

The software is user-friendly. It has a good and effective user interface.

What needs improvement?

The product's stability could be better.

For how long have I used the solution?

We have been using VMware SRM for eight years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

I rate the product's stability an eight out of ten. Sometimes, we need to restart the system as it stops working. It needs improvement.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We have 400 VMware SRM users in our organization. I rate its scalability a ten out of ten.

How are customer service and support?

The technical support services are good.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is straightforward. We need to download the application file and deploy it in vCentre Server. Later, we need to register a static manager to create a bridge between two environments. After that, we check if the static environment is configured with the data centers.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The software is expensive. There is a one-time cost involved in purchasing the license.

What other advice do I have?

I recommend VMware SRM to others and rate it a ten out of ten. I advise other users to always install the latest version.

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Head Of Business at Zeta-Web Nigeria Limited
Real User
Top 5
Is easy to set up and is stable and scalable
Pros and Cons
  • "I like how VMware SRM is able to automate and orchestrate disaster recovery."
  • "The price, in general, could be lower."

What is our primary use case?

We use it for disaster recovery.

What is most valuable?

I like how VMware SRM is able to automate and orchestrate disaster recovery.

What needs improvement?

The price, in general, could be lower.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've been using this solution for probably three years now.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It is a stable solution.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It is scalable.

How are customer service and support?

My experience with technical support has been fine.

How was the initial setup?

The installation is straightforward if you have the required skill level. It took about a week for the initial setup.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The price could be lower, in general. My clients pay for an annual license.

What other advice do I have?

I recommend VMware SRM and rate it at eight on a scale from one to ten.

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Consultant
User-friendly, simple to use, and it can be used with storage arrays from any vendor
Pros and Cons
  • "The most valuable feature is the simplicity of operations."
  • "The two vCenters have to be synchronized, which sometimes gives us problems because Keberos does not tolerate more than five minutes in time difference."

What is our primary use case?

We are a system integrator in Morocco and this is one of the products that we implement for our clients. Our customers use VMware SRM to replicate sites for the purpose of disaster recovery. SRM is a recovery manager and we combine it with NetApp to provide recovery solutions.

What is most valuable?

The most valuable feature is the simplicity of operations. You have two main buttons, where one is red and one is green. The red button is used for real disaster recovery and the green button is used if you want to simulate it.

The interface is user-friendly.

The storage replication adapter (SRA) is quite good because it allows SRM to work with storage arrays from any vendor.

What needs improvement?

I would like to see a detailed history of the events for each site because I have found difficulty with that. The two vCenters have to be synchronized, which sometimes gives us problems because Keberos does not tolerate more than five minutes in time difference.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been dealing with VMware SRM since 2009.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The recovery point (RPO) is set to 24 hours, which means that this is being used daily. Our backup happens at 8:00 pm every night.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

VMware SRM is scalable.

Most of our clients are in Morocco, and 80% of them are bigger companies with a lot of users.

How are customer service and technical support?

Technical support from VMware is good and I would rate them an eight out of ten.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is definitely simple.

The last project that I worked on took two weeks to deploy. This included installing NetApp, vCenter, ESXi, and the initial application.

What about the implementation team?

We have an in-house team that includes me and two other people. We also do maintenance for some of our clients.

What other advice do I have?

In the past, with version 6.0, there were two versions of SRM. There was a version for Windows as well as an appliance. However, all of our customers are now moving to the appliance.

I recommend using this product because it integrates well with replication technology from any vendor using the SRA.

I would rate this solution a nine out of ten.

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Real User
Enables us to get a lot of server images successfully but it has connectivity issues with auto-recovery
Pros and Cons
  • "The product is evolving and the vendor is committed to change."
  • "There are many functionality problems with the product currently. It is also slow and unstable."

What is our primary use case?

We are in technology and services but we also do enterprise architecture and strategic planning. We always work on the customer side, but we work very closely together with key partners and key vendors in the industry. This includes VMware, but other vendors as well. We realize solutions on the customer's behalf and we are also always solution-oriented and committed to delivering what the client needs. That is why we work intensively and closely with vendors like VMware.  

With VMware SRM, we had a technical account manager before coming on with them and level three support all on standby just in case we were to encounter issues. We just happened to encounter a lot of issues.  

We integrated the product at the same time partly because of discovery and partly because we want to stay vendor agnostic. We work with whatever the client has if it is a viable product. One might be using Hyper-V and another one might be using KVM (Kernel-based Virtual Machine) or Xen Project or AHV (Acropolis HyperVisor). We treat them equally to do what they need and also work with other parties, like Red Hat or Nutanix or whatever other solutions are necessary. Of course, we take our experiences from every client and every project with us on to the next opportunity.  

What is most valuable?

What I like the most about SRM is the delta sync. We typically approach a project from an architecture perspective and we do service grouping. For example, take a situation where we plan to do a migration. We decide to go with a setup where there is a front-end portal server, there are duplication servers and there is one back-end database server. This means there are four separate VMs each representing one particular service. To get the services across, we have to wait until we have the full image replication complete. By the time we kick it off, the replication has already begun to trickle in. You can parameterize a little bit. When you really want to do the migration — probably during a service outage on the weekends as it is for production — the majority of the data is already migrated to the other side. That helps a lot because you do not need to have a tremendous service outage with this model compared to doing it in a more traditional way.  

Of course, VMware SRM not the only solution that is capable of doing this anymore. But if you have a heterogeneous environment — environments are not equal on both sides — this solution can be an advantage. In our situation, we had completely different technical specs and technology foundations at the source and target. In this case, the product is really is an enabler on the condition that you have the same hypervisor on the other side.  

What needs improvement?

I would say a lot could be changed to improve the product in terms of troubleshooting and supportability. I think about every two weeks, we had an incident somewhere in the software stack. There were problems that we faced with the vRA (vRealize Automation) multiple times. We had to fix the problem and redeploy it more than once to get it to work properly. Then we had to completely redo our replication. That is a big drawback because it means we had to cancel other plans that had already been scheduled.  

To summarize it briefly: users need a lot of enhancement to the quality and functionality of the software for it to be very useful.  

For support of VMware version 3, a more recent patch needs to be released. There were a few times that fixes were released but we have already upgraded to those latest levels and the known compatibility problems are not fixed.  

The replication advantage the product has does not work for all VMs. For example, if you have a large difference in change frequency within a VM and the VM is big — in one case our VM was 42 terabytes — the data just does not get across in the migration. So the product is really not able to handle either very big VMs or a very large change frequency. I remember we tried it with one Data Mart SQL database where we do continuous ETLs (Extract, Transform and Load). The data reloads on a daily basis. The replication takes too long to complete. The next afternoon after the migration started, we were more or less at 50%. By the evening, we were at 70%. We scratched the data reloaded and started all over again. We found no means to accelerate that. By the time you appear to be progressing, you have to redo the migration. So that is another disadvantage when trying to use SRM.  

There are a lot of minor things that need to be in place on both sides of the migration to make it work. If something goes wrong in the middle of the migration, you will have a tough time trying to troubleshoot it. The product has an insufficient method of logging, an insufficient level of operability, and an insufficient level of detailed technical tracing. This lack of information makes it so you can not immediately pinpoint the issues to troubleshoot them. It cost us multiple weekends of lost time while trying to troubleshoot because we do not get this information from the product.  

But the things I would like to see for sure in a new release are:  

  • Fix all minor connectivity issues with auto-recovery.  
  • Auto-diagnose, auto-identify, and auto-correct issues as they occur and at least try to fix the issues a few times before allowing it to fail. If the fix is not successful then at least inform users that the fix attempt was made and the particular area where the issue is suspected so that users do not lose hours to troubleshooting.  
  • Open up the solution to be more environmentally agnostic. It should not be so strongly integrated with vCenter. It should be loosely coupled with vCenter and allow other solutions.  
  • Make the product more robust and much faster. Many replications we have initiated took two weeks before going to the switchover. A lot happens in two weeks. It seems like an eternity when you have no idea why replications stalled over that long of a period of time.  

For how long have I used the solution?

I was using this between 2018 and 2019. I have been using it total for a year-and-a-half.  

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The solution is not stable enough. If there are glitches in the process, it is not auto recovering from the issue. It is not even attempting to bring back a steady operational state. So stability is not sufficiently addressed.  

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The product promises to be scalable. You can add multiple vRA's — as many as you want per what you want to do. But then again, you are bound by physical constraints. For example, if you want to have multiple vRA's with multiple targets, that does not work. They have to all be directed towards one individual target. It could be multiple data stores, but it still has to be directed to the same target.  

In one case, we wanted to extend to an additional target, so we initiated two targets. Of course, the targets had two different configurations, two different data stores, and so on. That will not work. So that is where scalability ends.  

We had to do a complete reconfiguration with new targets. Then push everything over to a new target, then destroy it again, and bring it back to the first. We have done that on a few occasions, back and forth, and it is quite a cumbersome process. It should not be the case.  

Again this particular case was kind of an advanced setup. But we also have tried some multiple vRA's with just one target. But even there we have encountered synchronization issues because they need to keep in sync, and it may not happen.  

Internal software synchronization issues amongst the vRA's paralyze the replications. There are some bugs in this functionality as well. We tried to patch them up using fixes provided from the VMware lab. Eventually, we ended up on version 6.5.1. Later on, those patches disappeared, apparently because VMware understood the patches did not fix the problems — or maybe created more.  

Because of all these issues, we are no longer using the product for the moment. This is because of all the problems and the fact that there is an ongoing license cost as well. I think at the peak we had 10 users. These were admins and engineers. I was using the product as a solutions design architect. But right now I would never use it unless it is for disaster recovery or rehearsal or something like that.  

The advice that I would give to other people who are looking into implementing this solution is that every software product comes with flaws. Products can evolve very rapidly. I think in our case that it was quite a good learning experience. It was a good learning experience for VMware as well — as they acknowledged. They said they would work on improvements in the various areas I brought up to them, and I liked that they will be making the effort.  

But if considering this product, I would also look at other compelling products, like Zerto, for example, or other replication tools like the Sun virtual platform. You could look at the ease-of-use of Nutanix. Their process for replication is very different compared to what SRM offers. But the ease-of-use comes with constraints. You do not always have the choice to have equal foundations for both source and target. Then there are backup solutions like Rubrik and Veeam. There are certainly alternatives out there that are categorically different product types with other ways to accomplish similar things. But a lot of what is potentially a viable choice depends on the use case.  

My recommendation would be to prepare carefully. Mimic your own live environment in testing as close as possible to the existing architecture with the vendor. Let the vendor prove that they are value-added resellers. Make sure you have tested in a representative set up at their facilities and can achieve what you are trying to achieve before going on to attempt to deploy and use it in your own environment.  

I do not think SRM is fully ready yet for a hybrid context where the workload is working across multiple clouds and on-premises. It is an evolving product.  

How was the initial setup?

In a simple situation, the setup is a piece of cake. However, as soon as you start to work across various deployments based on various levels, the setup is much more cumbersome and much more complex. You need to deal with the interoperability issues like checking the vCenter on the left side and the vCenter on the right side, what is the ESX (Elastic Sky X) level, et cetera. You may need to downgrade your expectations accordingly, to make it still work.  

Also, if you have network routing in between two completely different, distinct environments, that can give you quite a lot of headaches as well. To give you an idea: in the initial setup of one migration, we could just not connect both VMs end-to-end. The site manager would not connect. The vRA's were connecting, but the site manager was not. It turned out to be a network routing issue. In actuality, the "issue" was not an issue. The routing was just was working like it should, following the default gateway. It just could never connect to the other site manager.  

At times you really need to go back down to the very basics yourself, and even then there may be no clarity about why it will not connect. It follows the route, the stage-gate goes through, and the connection does not happen.  

Then also the checkpoint restart is a problem. There is no checkpoint restart. What I mean by that is you can have eight VMs to migrate over a coming weekend and something goes wrong after the process is initiated, or somebody made a mistake in the service grouping. When you see this problem, you think you just need to remap, recalibrate, and then relaunch it. But there is no history track of what is already replicated. The service grouping does not reflect in that result. You need to start all over again. So there is no checkpoint for the restart. There is a checkpoint for an individual VM, but not for multiple VMs.  

As far as the time it takes to deploy, that will vary. We have had different levels of complexity in our deployments. We initially had a simple setup that was done in two days, but there were no different networks involved, no different vCenters, and also it was intra-cluster. When done like this it was very easy.  

It was a completely different story for the more complex setups. I think it took us about six weeks with a lot of effort. There was a lot of alignment, a lot of verification, a lot of troubleshooting, and a lot of diagnostics to get it working end-to-end on both sides. It was really too much time to take with that kind of project.  

What other advice do I have?

On a scale from one to ten where one is the worst and ten is the best, I would rate VMware SRM as about a five. I am not open to giving a positive recommendation as the product stands. It is a little generous to give it a five considering all the issues.  

This review focuses a lot on the weaknesses of the product. But we were actually able to use the solution to get quite a lot of server images successfully, especially if the servers were relatively small, like a parasitic thermal server or an ordinary file server. That type of project went fine. So, if your use case is entry-level, beginning, and maybe intermediate, I think you will be fine using the product. But even if you do not have a lot of complexity and you try to work with this in a really big enterprise and a multi-region, multi-datacenter environment, you will have a lot of challenges ahead for sure.  

We have used it as a migration tool in support of a big transformation. I would think twice before using it for continuity on a permanent basis. I might think three times before more enhancements to the product are made successfully to enhance the utility.  

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Senior IT Virtualization Architect at a tech services company with 501-1,000 employees
Consultant
Easy to use and with lowest RPO can protect the main site; add a function to detect the business critical applications.

What is most valuable?

Centralized recovery plans for thousands of VMs, Non-disruptive recovery testing, Automated DR workflows.

How has it helped my organization?

Lowers the cost of DR management, Eliminates clexity and risk of manual processes, Enables fast and highly predictable RTOs.

What needs improvement?

In my opinion if Vmware added some function to detect the business critical applications like oracle, exchange to help monitor these applications for disaster recovery .

For how long have I used the solution?

7 years on many international projects.

What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

In the earlier versions I had some issue, however all of them resolved now.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

No issues with stability.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

No issues with scalability.

How are customer service and technical support?

Customer Service:

Excellent, I had some issues for trouble shooting which was far from my knowledge and vmware customer service remotely solved the problem.

Technical Support:

Excellent

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

Yes, I used other products like Storage replications or some other software like "double take.” The problem with storage replication was that it was so risky and unstable to manually bring the application up on DR site, besides taking more time to restore.

Other software, like double take, we needed to do lot of effort on each application separately which makes the solution more complex.

How was the initial setup?

In some basic installations, it is very straightforward, but for enterprise customers it makes sense to do some extra steps to protect applications and boot order.

What about the implementation team?

Both, In my experience vendor teams like HP, EMC or net app, didn’t have much experience with this product, especially for the last 5 years, I mainly have to help them understand the solution.

What was our ROI?

Based on average of downtime cost on DR and how automation can help to bring the business on, SRM can reduce the cost nearly 50 percent; moreover you don’t need to have SAN storage on DR.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

Setup cost was based on number of vms and protection plan, and if communication DR site has no any issue, within two weeks all setup can normally be finished and cost is around $300- $350 per day.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

For some customer who want to protect small number of of applications, I will recommend to go with vendor disaster recovery solution, like Oracle data guard for oracle DB or Microsoft exchange replication or SQL log shipping for Microsoft SQL products.

What other advice do I have?

Vmware SRM can handle all of the challenge of replication and disaster recovery in a simple way.

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