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Provides visibility into IT infrastructures by automated discovery and dependency mapping

What is most valuable?

- extensive GUI with many features allowing:
o broad control over inventory/discovery of standard systems, but also custom built equipment
o easy modeling of systems and applications
o easy addition of integrations with various data sources with various connection protocols
- fast (internal) "time to market" using special applications built "on top" like UCMDB Browser and Configuration Manager
- numerous and knowledgable support staff; fast turnaround on support cases
- extensive online support system, software communities and solutions resources

What needs improvement?

- can be rather expensive to implement (for smaller companies)
- can be support intensive
- requires a lot of project resources to push toward implementation
- requires a number of people to operate
- as game changing technology requires a mature IT service organization, numerous resources for project management, design, implementation, evangelization
- requires serious upper echelon management backing (sponsorship)

For how long have I used the solution?

6 years

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

HP releases CUPS and Content Packs on a regular basis. Implementing these requires careful planning and analysis, but helps keeping the product in good working shape.

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How are customer service and support?

Customer Service:

HP customer service is usually very personal, reachable and effective.

Technical Support:

HP Software Support is a very large and skilled organization, with experience dating back decades.

How was the initial setup?

Setup is straightforward, but it does require planning and design.

What about the implementation team?

In-house.

What other advice do I have?

Large telcos with a history of mergers and acquisitions will benefit from this technology by discovering exactly which components are located where in their data centers, how they're connected and what their status is, facilitating consolidation/transformation of DC infrastructures as well as reducing mean time to resolution in case of incidents. Evaluation is a speedy process because results are visible quickly (imagine a simple scan of a couple hundred Windows servers and presenting the resulting map to a Windows SDM). Usually leads to "oh nice, can we do x or y as well?". Which is what you're doing it for initially.

Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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My experiences using UCMDB with Configuration Manager

With HP UCMDB we bring clarity and order to the surrounding jungle of IT infrastructure components and the myriad ways in which they're interrelated. HP UCMDB brings us a standardized data model and CMDB, which serves as a single source of truth and as a foundation for integrations with other tools in the ITSM sphere, like Service Manager and BSM.

HP UCMDB (Universal Configuration Management Database) usually comes packaged with two other products, the UCMDB Browser and Configuration Manager.

The UCMDB Browser enables us to quickly give access to the CMDB contents for large numbers of users, whereas the Java GUI allows UCMDB admins and analysts to develop Views and Reports which serve to satisfy the organization's CI information needs.

With Configuration Manager, or CM for short, it becomes possible to quickly use the discovered data in UCMDB for comparative purposes, like policy checking. The idea is that you create model, or views, in UCMDB and then use those as a basis in CM. The TQLs created in UCMDB produce CI’s, which are then used in CM to compare with each other (environment segmentation analysis), or with standards (policy checking, state comparison over time). CM can then produce lists/reports alerting you to changes, which you can then authorize. Or not.

Another approach is to quickly select a number of CI’s, like computers, compare them with one another to produce a view on the segmentation, or fragmentation, of hardware standards in IT. Any which way you use CM, it gives a configuration manager a tool to very quickly turn his new CMDB into hard currency.

If the Configuration Manager is the only one working with CM, it requires him (or her) to have an understanding of modeling in UCMDB, since models form the basis of CI checking in CM. So there’s a little ramping of knowledge, but once done, results are produced very quickly. The whole mess of CI’s suddenly comes alive and kicking.

With UCMDB version 10, HP has introduced a large number of improvements and changes. One of the main ones is the addition of inventory based discovery. It is now possible to deploy inventory scanners to target hosts, which inventory installed software using a technique called DDMi, previously found in HP Asset Manager. Now application signature based inventory and license information gathering comes into the domain of UCMDB without the need for integration.

A clear Business Case for UCMDB can be the migration of a Data Center, or the need to increase Configuration Management process credibility by improving IT infrastructure data quality.

ROI may take a little bit, because there's an investment, and it depends on the way the solution is introduced in the organization, it needs leverage by proper upper echelons sponsorship and lower echelon product evangelisation (using demos and bootcamps) how long it will take for the solution to "take", but as soon as it does, information requests will roll in from all corners and the product will prove its worth.

Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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Systems Advisor at a government with 1,001-5,000 employees
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This product discovers, maps and reports information about our configuration on a daily basis.

What is most valuable?

Discovery of infrastructure and automatic mapping of the infrastructure relationships. The discovery uses multiple protocols both actively and passively to get information about networks, hosts, connections, traffic, services, processes, hardware, software, etc. Configuration Manager (CM) provides a dashboard for Policy and View management UCMDB Browser – this is a relatively new feature but it is evolving rapidly – allows the user to look at his configuration data and all of its aspects (impact analysis, change, monitoring KPIs, automation, environment, relationships, etc)

How has it helped my organization?

The UCMDB has illuminated the organization to the fact that our data is managed too manually and distributed in a myriad of spreadsheets. This product discovers, maps and reports information about our configuration on a daily basis. We use it for datacenter migrations and for audit purposes. The company is starting to realize that we really don’t have a source of truth for audit purposes and this product is capable of being that.

What needs improvement?

I think the product is so large and complex that the learning curve is long if you want to understand all aspects of what it can do. You have to jump from manual to manual to accomplish some of the functions, but this is understandable considering the scope of what it attempts to do.

For how long have I used the solution?

The product was here before I started working at this company but meandering in support – it was version 8.04 in 2010 – today I am at v10.01. This version is the first to be supported properly starting April 2013.

What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

The installation of the application and database servers was straight forward and error free – the probes are quite easy to install as well and the updates/patches/content packs can be automatically delivered to each probe from the application server .

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

When I reached over 20 million CIs (Configuration Items), I needed to do some tuning to keep the product performing – but after I enabled the aging mechanism, this number went into the 10-11 million CI mark and it’s behaved quite admirably since.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

No, you are able to use separate probes to scale out across the enterprise, it is the probe that does the discovery and sends the results back to the application server. We are in the infancy of using this product in product but so far I haven’t seen the need to scale out the application/database servers (the product does support HA but we have disabled it)

How are customer service and technical support?

Customer Service: We have had no problem with the customer service although we haven’t made too many demands in this area.Technical Support: The initial level of support is OK for problems that are recreatable, but typically I need to escalate to second and third level support. I joined an HP Practitioners forum (held on Tuesdays at 11 am EST) and it is very valuable in keeping up with the current technology and the future roadmap of the product.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We continue to use BMC Remedy (Atrium) for problem and change and configuration management since this has been in place for 10 years – everyone continues to blame it for inaccurate data but it is so entrenched in the day to day processes. What the landscape is changing to is – the UCMDB is being positioned to provide a bidirectional link to Remedy so that the live discovery results are pumped back to Remedy to keep this repository up to date.

How was the initial setup?

The setup is straightforward and becomes a little more complex when you add SSL to the mix.

What about the implementation team?

Basically we installed in-house and got no vendor support (nor did we ask for any)

What was our ROI?

We haven’t quantified anything yet, mostly the advantages are intangible and process-oriented / data quality related.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

We purchased 2750 licenses (full discovery for 2700 hosts (network devices do not need a license)) at a cost of $550,000 ($200 per license). I don’t quite know the day to day cost – but we will probably need to reach 10,000 licenses when complete, so the full investment would be around $2 million (hopefully HP can be a little creative when we get to that point!)

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

No other product was evaluated – when I joined the organization, I basically dusted off the v8 of UCMDB and supported it single-handedly to get it to this state.

What other advice do I have?

Start small either horizontally or vertically. For example, horizontally you can implement discovery at the IP address level and complete that before you enable any host discovery . Or vertically, take one organizational unit or datacenter and enable full discovery on that subset of IP addresses . I prefer the latter because you can then demonstrate all of the capabilities of the UCMDB within this subset. The former option allows you to demonstrate what devices are actually out there (sometimes quite an eye opener in itself)
Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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