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"Extensible internal functions and plugins. Can implement custom plugins to fit your scenario. Python based plugins.""You can use only what you need. You can remove certain Cloudify functions from the framework to create a "minified" version of what you need. This might only consist of the messaging delivery system, and the orchestration functions.""It enables a single platform to communicate with the entire infrastructure.""Product has given us the ability to catch early scaling issues that many companies hit on with private clouds.""Valuable features are auto-scaling and load balancing.""The solution includes the option to run background scripts and processes from a connected API.""Cloudify works in cases where you have very advanced service chaining requirements. It really works well there, and it fits the best. They have a standardized markup that's based on TOSCA, which is a standard. I like the fact that they're standards-based. Their solution works extremely well if you have the talent and the manpower to write TOSCA descriptors to deploy and interchange services or to automate the configuration and turn up of services.""TOSCA model allows modeling the application rather than the automation. It is a machine-readable representation of the application and its infrastructure, which can be used for other things too, not just for the orchestration (e.g. enterprise architecture big picture, who connects to whom)."

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"On-premises, one advantage I find particularly appealing is the ability to create policies for automatic CPU and memory scaling based on demand.""I like Turbonomic's built-in reporting. It provides a ton of information out of the box, so I don't have to build panels for the monthly summaries and other reports I need to present to management. We get better performance and bottleneck reporting from this than we do from our older EMC software.""With Turbonomic, we were able to reduce our ESX cluster size and save money on our maintenance and license renewals. It saved us around $75,000 per year but it's a one-time reduction in VMware licensing. We don't renew the support. The ongoing savings is probably $50,000 to $75,000 a year, but there was a one-time of $200,000 plus.""In our organization, optimizing application performance is a continuous process that is beyond human scale. We would not be able to do the number of actions that Turbonomic takes on a daily, weekly, and monthly basis. It is humanly impossible with the little micro adjustments that it can make. That is a huge differentiator. If you just figure each action could take anywhere very conservatively from five to 10 minutes to act upon, then you multiply that out by thousands of actions every month, it is easily something where you could say, "I am saving a couple of FTEs."""Before implementing Turbonomic, we had difficulty reaching a consensus about VM placement and sizing. Everybody's opinion was wrong, including mine. The application developers, implementers, and infrastructure team could never decide the appropriate size of a virtual machine. I always made the machines small, and they always made them too big. We were both probably wrong.""The ability to monitor and automate both the right-sizing of VMs as well as to automate the vMotion of VMs across ESXi hosts.""Using this product helps us to reduce performance risk because it shows us where resources are needed but not yet allocated.""The automated memory balancing, where it looks at whether it's being used in the most efficient way and adds or takes away memory, is the best part. If it didn't do that, it would be something that I would have to do. We have too many machines for one person to do that. The automation helps me in that it is done in a really efficient way and a balanced way because of the policies. It really helps."

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"It is a highly stable solution.""The ability to programmatically describe the desired state of a single, or an entire fleet of servers, on-premises, and in a cloud environment.""The automation functionality has been most valuable. With a click of a button, we are able to automate provisioning, the build of new hardware and apply patches. These are all extremely important and differentiated tasks that can be automated in SaltStack.""We monitor the configurations against CIS standards. We run CIS benchmarks and maintain configurations with higher CIS values for each server.""SaltStack has given us the ability to deal with systems at scale and rectify issues at scale.""The product’s most valuable feature is its ability to provide environmental security.""I want to build automation that is intelligent, part of the fabric of our environment, and is somewhat self-sustaining. I think SaltStack can help me do this."

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Cons
"Unlike the Docker environment, Cloudify takes time for configuration and its learning curve.""Certainly the UI could use some intensive work, but nevertheless, overall, it’s a complete product with its 3.4 version and much better features are available with 4.0.""It lacked the user interface for multitenancy and basic platform management tasks. It is a leader in the niche area that they like to perform in, but it only does about 30% of top-tier advanced functions of platform management. It doesn't meet about 70% of what you need to manage a private cloud platform.""The solution is a bit of a headache because mistakes happen in the blueprint every time we deploy and they require modifications.""The upgrading process could be simplified.""Error handling could be improved; GUI is lacking with respect to user privileges and connectivity.""Install of the product itself could be improved and I would like to see better event monitoring."

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"They have a long road map when we ask for certain things that will make the product better. It takes time, but that's understandable because there are other things that are higher on the priority list.""The planning and costing areas could be a little bit more detailed. When you have more than 2,000 machines, the reports don't work properly. They need to fix it so that the reports work when you use that many virtual machines.""It sometimes does get false positives. Sometimes, it'll move something when it really wasn't a performance metric. I've seen it do that, but it's pretty much an automated tool for performance. We've only got about 500 virtual machines, so lots of times, I'm able to manage it physically, but it's definitely a nice tool for a larger enterprise that might be managing 2,000 or 3,000 virtual machines.""There is an opportunity for improvement with some of Turbonomic's permissions internally for role-based access control. We would like the ability to come up with some customized permissions or scope permissions a bit differently than the product provides.""Additional interfaces would be helpful.""The GUI and policy creation have room for improvement. There should be a better view of some of the numbers that are provided and easier to access. And policy creation should have it easier to identify groups.""The issue for us with the automation is we are considering starting to do the hot adds, but there are some problems with Windows Server 2019 and hot adds. It is a little buggy. So, if we turn that on with a cluster that has a lot of Windows 2019 Servers, then we would see a blue screen along with a lot of applications as well. Depending on what you are adding, cores or memory, it doesn't necessarily even take advantage of that at that moment. A reboot may be required, and we can't do that until later. So, that decreases the benefit of the real-time. For us, there is a lot of risk with real-time.""Before IBM bought it, the support was fantastic. After IBM bought it, the support became very disappointing."

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"This solution could be integrated with more hardware for an improved offering.""It is difficult to set up.""A hardened set of tests would be much appreciated.""Web UI.""There is a little bit of pain when it comes to libraries and what is needed to run the product.""SaltStack's features are minimal.""Its configuration process could be better."

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Pricing and Cost Advice
  • "I wasn't involved in the pricing of it because we were just doing prototype work with it, but I was told by the upper management team that it was quite expensive. That was another reason we switched to Morpheus."
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  • "We felt the pricing was very fair for the product. It is in no way prohibitive for larger deployments, unlike other similar product on the market."
  • "Contact the Turbonomic sales team, explain your needs and what you're looking to monitor. They will get a pre-sales SE on the phone and together work up a very accurate quote."
  • "What I can advise is to trial the product, taking advantage of the Turbonomic pre-sales implemention support and kickstart training."
  • "Licensing is per socket, so load up on the cores rather than a lot of lower core CPUs."
  • "You should understand the cost of your physical servers and how much time and money you are spending year over year on expanding your virtual farm."
  • "Price is a big one. VMTurbo was very competitively priced."
  • "If you're a super-small business, it may be a little bit pricey for you... But in large, enterprise companies where money is, maybe, less of an issue, Turbonomic is not that expensive. I can't imagine why any big company would not buy it, for what it does."
  • "It was an annual buy-in. You basically purchase it based on your host type stuff. The buy-in was about 20K, and the annual maintenance is about $3,000 a year."
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  • "So much can be done with the Open Source side, and especially for smaller shops. I personally think the pricing for Enterprise is hard to justify."
  • "The pricing for this solution is roughly 20% lower than the competitive products in the market."
  • "The solution is free of cost."
  • "It is an open-source product."
  • "SaltStack is an open-source product."
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    Questions from the Community
    Top Answer:It enables a single platform to communicate with the entire infrastructure.
    Top Answer:The solution could be improved with respect to error handling. If the deployment fails, we get an error message. If we… more »
    Top Answer:Cloudify is a DevOps tool that we use for spinning up the VM. In order to do that it needs to communicate with the IP… more »
    Top Answer:I have not seen Turbonomic's new pricing since IBM purchased it. When we were looking at it in my previous company… more »
    Top Answer:I would like Turbonomic to add more services, especially in the cloud area. I have already told them this. They can add… more »
    Top Answer:I mostly provide it to my clients. There are multiple reasons why they would use it depending on the client's needs and… more »
    Top Answer:We monitor the configurations against CIS standards. We run CIS benchmarks and maintain configurations with higher CIS… more »
    Top Answer:SaltStack's features are minimal.
    Top Answer:We use SaltStack for configuration management, where we maintain configurations of 150 servers. It also helps with file… more »
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    Turbonomic, VMTurbo Operations Manager
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    Overview

    Cloudify is an open-source orchestration-first cloud management platform. The solution allows applications to efficiently run across multiple cloud or data center platforms for premium multi-cloud infrastructure automation and orchestration. It provides infrastructure automation using environment as a service (EaaS) technology to deploy and continuously manage any cloud, private data center, or Kubernetes service from one central point while leveraging existing toolchains.

    Cloudify Product Highlights

    • Fully customizable (white label, add, and modify widgets)
    • Create a custom view per business units, groups, user role
    • Easy integration with any 3rd-party/homegrown portal
    • Identify and eliminate task execution failures via a visual interface
    • Easy service composition that allows you to create new or update existing services
    • Switch between code and topology views
    • Import existing automation templates and scripts into Cloudify and automatically convert them into certified environments.
    • Intelligent and declarative engine that automates the entire lifecycle management
    • Intuitive UX and dashboards allowing complete visibility and control over usage, behavior, faults, and events of application/network services.

    Cloudify Features

    Cloudify has many valuable key features. Some of the most useful ones include:

    • Elastic caching
    • Post-deployment automation
    • Deployment monitoring
    • Service catalog
    • Real-time code validation
    • Plugins (Kubernetes, Ansible, AWS Cloud Formation, Azure ARM, Terraform)
    • Advanced Kubernetes management UI
    • Multi cluster action
    • Governance and compliance
    • Self-serve experience

    Cloudify Benefits

    There are many benefits to implementing Cloudify. Some of the biggest advantages the solution offers include:

    • Operation agility: Cloudify gives your organization and DevOps teams the ability to react to resource needs, evolve, and adapt quickly over time. 
    • Self-service: Cloudify provides a self-service catalog and portal framework for cloud automation and cloud orchestration to provide a helpful and intuitive experience for environments, apps, and services setup and management.
    • Real-time visibility: Cloudify enables you to visually track all task executions. By implementing Cloudify, you can monitor progress and status of each execution step on Cloudify’s cloud orchestration platform, identify and eliminate task execution failures via a visual interface, and you can also apply management actions, such as stop, correct, and resume, quickly. 
    • Reduce design and configuration time: The Cloudify solution has a visual editor, allowing greater visibility into blueprint structure and dependencies, and drag-n-drop service composition that helps you leverage shared resources and components for ultimate open-source infrastructure and cloud orchestration.
    • Fast deployment: Another benefit of Cloudify is that it helps speed up deployments of your test/dev/production environments from your CI/CD.
    • Enables continuous updates: With Cloudify, you have continuous updates for your production environments. Cloudify enables your organization to monitor health, heal failures, update patches, and scale resources without any environment downtime.
    • Governance: By using the Cloudify solution, you can accommodate governance changes and can scale and update operations according to your certified architecture. 
    • Easier to manage Kubernetes: Cloudify makes it simple for you to manage multi Kubernetes clusters via service orchestration, enabling you to manage the application service itself rather than just its infrastructure. 
    • Cost optimization: With Cloudify, you can control costs by employing end-to-end modeling of the entire infrastructure. The solution offers cost-saving policies, which include the decommissioning of formerly complex services and resources.

    IBM Turbonomic is a performance and cost optimization platform for public, private, and hybrid clouds used by customers to assure application performance while eliminating inefficiencies by dynamically resourcing applications through automated actions. Common use cases include cloud cost optimization, cloud migration planning, data center modernization, FinOps acceleration, Kubernetes optimization, sustainable IT, and application resource management. Turbonomic customers report an average 33% reduction in cloud and infrastructure waste without impacting application performance, and return-on-investment of 471% over three years. Ready to take a closer look? Explore the interactive demo or start your free 30-day trial today!

    SaltStack is an intelligent IT automation platform that can manage, secure, and optimize any infrastructure—on-prem, in the cloud, or at the edge. It’s built on a unique and powerful event-driven automation engine that detects events in any system and reacts intelligently to them, making it an extremely effective solution for managing large, complex environments. And with the newly launched SecOps offering, SaltStack can detect security vulnerabilities and non-compliant, mis-configured systems. As soon as an issue is detected, this powerful automation helps you and your team remediate it, keeping your infrastructure securely configured, compliant, and up-to-date.

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    Computer Software Company21%
    Financial Services Firm15%
    Manufacturing Company6%
    Retailer6%
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    Healthcare Company13%
    Manufacturing Company13%
    Financial Services Firm13%
    Insurance Company7%
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    Computer Software Company18%
    Financial Services Firm16%
    Manufacturing Company9%
    Insurance Company6%
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    Computer Software Company46%
    Financial Services Firm15%
    Healthcare Company8%
    Comms Service Provider8%
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    Computer Software Company14%
    Financial Services Firm13%
    University8%
    Manufacturing Company8%
    Company Size
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    Small Business33%
    Large Enterprise67%
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    Small Business27%
    Midsize Enterprise13%
    Large Enterprise60%
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    Small Business17%
    Midsize Enterprise23%
    Large Enterprise60%
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    Small Business18%
    Midsize Enterprise11%
    Large Enterprise71%
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    Small Business40%
    Midsize Enterprise23%
    Large Enterprise37%
    VISITORS READING REVIEWS
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    Midsize Enterprise12%
    Large Enterprise71%
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